I don't think this is the issue Ryar is talking about. Specifically, the issue highlighted happens to units that can find the GPS but can not translate that into a position on the map. I have only had the 'detecting GPS' if there was something wrong with the port setting.
Ryar, unfortunately i'm away for the next few Weeks so can't test your work around. Is there anything on the Italian forum about this issue?
That is a different issue all together. Check Primo's sys.txt and make sure under gps it reads: port=6 and baud=9600. If you shut off your port splitter you need port=7 and have to kill iGo before launching Primo (Primo w/o iGo8). Note Primo w/o iGo 8 is loacted in the APL2/Primo2 folder.
Ok. I changed the sys.txt to port 6 and the baud was already set for 9600. This time is says "Looking for GPS" I got at least 9 green bars with 10 bouncing around at read. It did show up the City of St. Paul and show some of the street names. But I went no farther. One thing I noticed while I had Primo up and running, I was able to hit the "Map" button on Avic and was brought back to the navigation screen on Igo8. I thought when I load Primo, it suppose to kills IGO8. Is that true?
That all I have for you. Sorry!
Keep up the great work as I really enjoy modding around!
Any idea what to do next?
Jimbo
Same problem here (Netherlands), the unit keeps om saying "Auto detecting GPS" location is somewere in Berlin with 3d buildings. Port and baudrate confirmed in sys.txt. The unit is a F900bt with I think firmware 3.02. Also tried Igo8 on port 6 and Primo on 5, no succes.
Will try to change data.zip --> config\devices\pioneer746ew.ini
Thank you for you afford so far Ryar, great release!!! Anything else we can try to get a fix?
If your ports are set to 6 in Primo it is likely your port splitter is not running. Tap Avicnet, then settings, then system settings. Make sure port splitter is set to on. If it is and you are having issues start total commander and go to \my flash disk\system. Scroll down to portsplitter.exe and launch it (double tap). You input should be set to com7, baud 9600 and output to com5 and com6. If it isn't, stop splitter and change the appropriate setting, then start splitter. Tap exit, and relaunch portsplitter.exe. It should have saved the settings you put in and it will auto-launch with those settings.
I don't think this is the issue Ryar is talking about. Specifically, the issue highlighted happens to units that can find the GPS but can not translate that into a position on the map. I have only had the 'detecting GPS' if there was something wrong with the port setting.
Ryar, unfortunately i'm away for the next few Weeks so can't test your work around. Is there anything on the Italian forum about this issue?
Nothing in the Italian forums that I can recall. I tried the exact release of Primo from their mod and had the same issue. I am curious if all in-dash units are having this issue or just some. I didn't have it happen to me for the first 2 weeks after I installed my f900bt, I must have launched Primo before starting to drive. The only thing I could find online is that it is a baud issue; I tried several baud settings and had the same issue. I can confirm with certainty that my f500bt is able to launch Primo while driving and that it has not had this bug, and I have been using Primo on it since late August. The files on each unit are identical to each other, the only difference is the firmware. Oddly, with no gps settings what so ever in the sys.txt on the f500bt it briefly give the message "auto detecting GPS" and then detects the gps and gets a satellite fix, but with the f900bt with no gps settings in the sys.txt it will display the message "auto detecting GPS" and never auto-detect. Perhaps the f500bt has more Primo friendly firmware installed, or the built in GPS is more easily detected by Primo. It sucks that the more expensive and feature rich unit (f900bt) is the one having issues.
I can live with having to launch Primo while stationary on the f900bt but would sure like to find a fix for this issue. I tried a different Primo 1.2 (May 20, 2011) today and the same problem occurred.
Ok. I changed the sys.txt to port 6 and the baud was already set for 9600. This time is says "Looking for GPS" I got at least 9 green bars with 10 bouncing around at read. It did show up the City of St. Paul and show some of the street names. But I went no farther. One thing I noticed while I had Primo up and running, I was able to hit the "Map" button on Avic and was brought back to the navigation screen on Igo8. I thought when I load Primo, it suppose to kills IGO8. Is that true?
That all I have for you. Sorry!
Keep up the great work as I really enjoy modding around!
Any idea what to do next?
Jimbo
Hi Jimbo, it looks like you are having the issue discussed in post #70. Start up your unit, do a hard reset after it has launched (it will then restart twice), and start Primo. Make sure you do all this with the vehicle stationary, when you are moving and launch Primo this bug seems to occur. Make sure when you start/stop Primo from now on you are not moving and it will work. You can shut off the car/closePrimo/or exit through the GJ skin, so long as you are not moving.
If your ports are set to 6 in Primo it is likely your port splitter is not running. Tap Avicnet, then settings, then system settings. Make sure port splitter is set to on. If it is and you are having issues start total commander and go to \my flash disk\system. Scroll down to portsplitter.exe and launch it (double tap). You input should be set to com7, baud 9600 and output to com5 and com6. If it isn't, stop splitter and change the appropriate setting, then start splitter. Tap exit, and relaunch portsplitter.exe. It should have saved the settings you put in and it will auto-launch with those settings.
Port splitter is set on and set as mentioned. Unit keeps on saying "Looking for GPS". After some adjustments Primo wil start but when I tap the map button the unit restarts. I think I'll have to start form scratch again.....
Port splitter is set on and set as mentioned. Unit keeps on saying "Looking for GPS". After some adjustments Primo wil start but when I tap the map button the unit restarts. I think I'll have to start form scratch again.....
Another solution would be set iGo and Primo2 sys.txt to port 7 in the sys.txt and shut the port splitter off. Make sure to launch Primo w/o iG08 so that the stock iGo is shut down; if it is still running Primo won't see the GPS and give you the "detecting GPS" message.
Wil try tomorrow (if the unit doesn't reset). Maybe try to copy all original files first --> set sys.txt to port 7 --> shut off port splitter and run Primo w/o Igo8. Result will follow, thanks in advance!
Edit: A little off topic but what model do you have? Is it a f900bt?
I have a Avic F910bt - Europe ... Version 3.02 ....+ wire speed .....
I know your still trying to get this perfected on the American and European models before you work on a version for the Australian models...so I decided to have a bit of a play for myself and see what I can come up with.
Anyway, I managed to get it running (iPod, phone, bluetooth, and maps)....BUT, when I select the Navigation option it doesn't give me any choices such as Tom Tom, Oziexplorer, iGo, iGo2, Primo ect...
If I push the Maps button on the unit it runs the standard iGo maps (which I'm fine with), but I would really like to know how to bring the option up for Oziexplorer maps.
Is there an .ini file or something that I need to modify (eg. comment or uncomment out a few lines?)
I don't know if it matters but I have a F900BT Australian version (which after a lot of reading have found it to be the same as the EU models (746EW))
Thanks
I know your still trying to get this perfected on the American and European models before you work on a version for the Australian models...so I decided to have a bit of a play for myself and see what I can come up with.
Anyway, I managed to get it running (iPod, phone, bluetooth, and maps)....BUT, when I select the Navigation option it doesn't give me any choices such as Tom Tom, Oziexplorer, iGo, iGo2, Primo ect...
If I push the Maps button on the unit it runs the standard iGo maps (which I'm fine with), but I would really like to know how to bring the option up for Oziexplorer maps.
Is there an .ini file or something that I need to modify (eg. comment or uncomment out a few lines?)
I don't know if it matters but I have a F900BT Australian version (which after a lot of reading have found it to be the same as the EU models (746EW))
Thanks
Copy from the Euro or NA download this folder to your unit: my flash disk\user\userdata\iGo\SAVE\userlists. In that folder there are all the settings for menus, ect to display all the programs on the avicnet menu.
Ryar,
The trick with sys.txt to port 7 and shutting off the port splitter doesn't seem to work. Still “Looking for GPS signal…”. I’ve noticed that time, date and height is coming trough. Maybe the gps source need to be assigned in syst.txt --> source=”nmea” ? Will try this afternoon. Any thing else we can try Ryar?
Adding the source="nmea" to sys.txt doesn't work, still the anoying “Looking for GPS signal…”. I'll may try an other com port in the portsplitter...
Copy from the Euro or NA download this folder to your unit: my flash disk\user\userdata\iGo\SAVE\userlists. In that folder there are all the settings for menus, ect to display all the programs on the avicnet menu.
Thank you 
It worked great.
It seems when I loaded the AVICnet Flash Disk stuff on I went into the \My Flash Disk\User\UserData\iGo\SAVE folder and deleted eveything (including the userlists folder) so there wasn't any saved settings in there...whoops
Now I just gotta play around a bit to get Primo working properly.
I seem to be having the bug as others with the fault "Looking for GPS" on the screen but when I tap on the GPS icon it shows it has a strong signal from 7 to 9 satellites.
And I just gotta work out where to put the Tom Tom maps I have so it works too
Thanks once again ryar
Ryar,
The trick with sys.txt to port 7 and shutting off the port splitter doesn't seem to work. Still “Looking for GPS signal…”. I’ve noticed that time, date and height is coming trough. Maybe the gps source need to be assigned in syst.txt --> source=”nmea” ? Will try this afternoon. Any thing else we can try Ryar?
You can download the tool from this page: http://gpsundergroun...d-protocol.html
It is a utility that will find your GPS port, speed and protocol. I never heard of and AVIC F series that ran on another port besides 7 but maybe there are a few exceptions to the rule. Run it from test mode. For myself, all I have on both my f900bt and f500bt as port 7 and baud 9600. You can also look at your backup my flash disk and see what is in the stock iGo's sys.txt.
Bad news everyone. I did some more troubleshooting on the display location on the map issue but had no luck resolving it. I sent Chuck a PM and he replied; I was under the impression he was using a x910bt trouble free but it is a x710bt which he is not having issues with. Anyways, I came to the conclusion that Primo does not like the f900bt and x910bt' gps signal while in motion which is possible due to the VSS (speed wire). I tried hooking up the VVS, grounding it, and leaving it disconnected and the result was always the same. With the VSS hooked up the stock iGo sees the speed with no signal but Primo does not. So long as the unit is stationary when Primo when launched it will show a location on the map but only if Primo was stationary when shut down. A few odd occurrences I have experienced which hopefully will help someone solve the issue are below:
- After a hard reset while moving Primo launches and displays location on the map while in test mode. A second launch after shutting down and the issue occurs. I deleted the entire my flash disk after the issue occurred , copied a clean install of Primo to my unit and re-launched and the issue still occurred. This leads me to believe Primo keeps a cache in memory which does not clear after exiting the program. That or Primo triggers some registry changes that are only restored after a hard reset.
- After the issue occurs the only method to restore it to normal is a hard reset. Deleting Primo's save folder, gpspara.bin files, restoring Primo's defaults did not help. A hard reset has corrected the problem every time.
- While driving with both the stock iGo and Primo running I unplugged the GPS. Primo displayed yellow balls around the GPS as if it was seeking a signal. When I plugged it back in the stock GPS got a signal and Primo immediately got the green balls and about 5 satellites were green but not location on the map, with a few red satellites seeking. I think Primo seen the stocks iGos satellites which it had a fix on and thought it had a fix on them.
- I changed the sys.txt for the stock iGo to port=4 so it would never get a fix and confuse Primo. Primo still would not launch while moving.
- I deleted the gpspara.bin files before launch Primo (I have read this is where satellite locations are stored). Still no luck.
- I tried launching Primo through test mode, avicnet, and Chucks mod and the issue occurred regardless.
I ordered an f700bt from ebay today and am confident without the VSS to confuse Primo it will work. I am really frustrated with the fact that similar model AVIC F series models with such subtle differences experience different behavior with the exact same settings and programs.
Once all the quirks get fixed, this is going to be SICK! I just installed this and am amazed... Great Work!
I believe I've found a fix for f900bt and x910bt users who are having trouble with Primo displaying their GPS location on the map. I have tested it thoroughly on my f900bt and can confirm it fixed the issue. Would anyone like to try it and post back if it worked for them? The files are on post #3 of this thread.
I am going to test.
thank you
I am going to test.
thank you
Hold up, I found a bug. I will re-up it with the fix shortly.
edit: Done!
Hold up, I found a bug. I will re-up it with the fix shortly.
edit: Done!
I downloaded the file and I will report back what I find out.
Thanks Ryar!
Jimbo
Downloading.......will try this afternoon, report back tonight!
Installation went oke! But still no instant fix, will try some more tomorrow.....
Had it today and not fixed yet. Should I stop the truck and then load Primo? It does show all green bars after a few minutes.
Jimbo
With my unit previously Primo could not get a fix when the vehicle is moving, now after the update it does. If yours still doesn't want to get a fix it is likely an unrelated issue which I have no idea to solve since I do not have the same problem.
edit: After implementing the fix I hooked up the speed wire and once again experienced the same issue. It is apparent at this point that the speed signal from the VSS is interfering with Primo's ability to get a GPS fix and display the location on the map.
To see if the fix will work for you do a hard reset. Launch Primo and wait for it to load. Make sure the vehicle is stationary throughout the reset and launch. If it gets a GPS fix and shows your location on the map then the fix should work for you. Unhook your speed wire (just leave it dangling not hooked up to anything or take out the fuse if you installed one) and install the fix. Now when you launch Primo it doesn't matter if the vehicle is moving or not, it should show your location on the map. Note it may take from 5-30 seconds for your location to show up despite having "green" satellites.