fantastic job Pionara, doing alot of recent work w/o device too!

at least everything is accessible at this point - we may just have to live with the Application reboots - otherwise no easy way to get back into original Navi menu system from an application

i picked up a used u310bt off of ebay for fairly cheap, so i just started using that one... regarding the one that i bricked, still wish i could figure out the bootloader on this guy to see how to kick it into upgrade mode. I strongly suspect that there is some magic file or naming convention that it would boot from.... I cant seem to figure out how to extract the bootloader short of jtag..

ps. i have tried to update the 1st post with all of the latest info .... let me know if something isnt right

i've tried loading a bunch of the bundled apps in MioPocket (using System Tools from Pionara launcher) and found that most of them don't run.

at least Core Media Player works, as well as half of the games (like Bejeweled), and maybe half of the other apps (Office, miniOpera). Or should I be running these directly from the Launcher or from MioPocket (must boot to TestMode tho)?

I'm also wondering if any Windows CE/5.0 app (for ARM CPU) should be runable on our U310BT

you will probably need to review the install scripts and instructions for miopocket... looks like install script updates system paths to point to extended sets of libraries needed for many of the apps that miopocket includes... I think launcher.mscr would need to be setup similarly if the goal is to run those kinds of progs..

the limited set of system libraries included in the base winceimg of pioneer is very minimal..

Yes, when I modified the Miopocket scripts, I was able to get it to work with the Overlays (though extremely buggy) and tested the apps - more of which seemed to work fine. I'll have to look into it more.

the progress being made here is great. i recently updated to the new OS on my u310BT. Its nice being able to run these custom apps, but has anyone else expierenced the inability to run these apps while in motion. my assumption is that the unit uses gps to determine movement now, instead of just the handbrake wire. other features are grayed out when in motion as well. anyone else having this problem.

are you sure that you have grounded the parking brake wire?

it's possible that pio introduced something that checks gps speed also

yes this is definitely the case in the new fw. My parking brake is grounded and everything worked great before. Now when I'm moving, certain options are grayed out until I come to a stop light

is there a magic speed where this seems to kick in? would it be by chance 100kmh ? (~55mph)

I've actually noticed that the "cannot operate while running" message happens too - but for me it's more sporadic

for instance, it always occurs when I run MioPocket from Launcher (MioPocket will work but after 1st reboot, choose to run System Tools and it will reboot again into MioPocket)

Also, it's been happening when I run system Tools as well

Doesn't happen when I run Igo8 tho - maybe b/c we switch the GPS comports?

I'll have to figure out when/where it's exactly happening, I thought it was my parking brake connection that was acting up but now that someone else is getting it then it's probably software

no its much slower than 55mph, i've noticed it just creeping around a parking lot. maybe we could use the mortscript option to change the com port when booting VideopPayer.exe (in my case this is actually Shincoplayer.exe renamed) since the OS reboots itself for video playback and doesn't need access to the navigation gps anymore anyway.

Ok since the navi software is almost identical to z series, I wonder if same hack is needed to override sw lock on gps. It looks like they may be moving the mute wire on their z series over to the kmode pin and grounding at out. On the u310 I believe this is the "nc" pin underneath parking brake pin "pkb" from looking at the u310 pinout. Can somebody double check the z bypass and verify they are using kmode pin to do the extra bypass?

So what I noticed was that:

1. when parking brake not grounded - I cannot run any apps even when car stationary

2. when parking brake grounded - I cannot input address in original Navi when driving, I cannot display video files from Mediaplayer while driving (even when I switch comport), but Igo8 works just fine (can input address while driving, and did not seem to have anything to do with running it as child process)

ok, looked at the bypass instructions for Z series... looks like they do move pin 1 (mute) to pin 2 (kmode) on a/v harness and then ground pin 2 along with parking brake.

Looking at the u310bt service manual, pin 13 is listed as NC, however according to wiring diagrams on service manual, it is connected internally to KMODE on ucom chip. It looks like this needs to be grounded along with parking brake pin.

Just wanted to chime in that I've avoided this issue by simply using Pionara's launcher to start TCPMP. Since the head unit can't see what is happening on COM 4, the files play without issue. The iGO8 launcher does the same so it's also not an issue.

Solidtrick, I suggest you dump Shincoplayer...I used that briefly and found that I couldn't play some MP4 files (like the spider pig demo). I've been using the TCPMP player packaged with Miopocket and it works very well on our devices...it is even skinable (but I have yet to find one that works well with our small screens).

FYI, i've tried to resolve the poorly working stock navi that I have been experiencing and I've come up with nothing...I've tried running newer maps from the SD card but it's still behaving badly. I could have sworn that it was working well before running iGO8 but I can't be sure...I can't help but think that changing the registry for the com port is what caused this effect. Not being a programmer though, I have no idea. :/

In any case, I'm quite happy with how things are right now although I wish there was a way to access the phone menu while iGO8 or the videoplayer is running. If we ever get to that point, I'll definitely look into a permanent bypass.

Guys, this method looks great. But I'm a little afraid to test it with my AVIC-F310BT. Has anybody already tried in on this model and if yes, please give me some more info.

Best Regards

P.S. By the way the forum is great thanks to all of you for the useful information you've shared here.

just tried pionara's k-mode harness hack. It's official, to reverse the gps motion safety feature of version 2.0 just add an extra pin to the power harness at location 13 and ground it along with the parking brake bypass. pin 13 is the empty cavity next to the radio ground(black wire). I'm using an amp for my rear speakers, so i just depinned a violet wire(tried digging through a bag of old harnesses but couldnt find a match)

thanks for being adventurous solidtrick!

pls let us know if you notice any other changes with k-mode..

nikigenov, yes, this was all tested on u310bt... f310bt should apply... there are some issues with f320bt, that have been higligted in first thread....

but if you are u310bt - you should be ok

O.K. thank you both, I'll try it these days

thank you pionara,starts with original navi,you can change this with igo or?

ignition off and on ever original navi

Hi Guys!

Today i had some spare time to try this method. When I put the SD Card appears "Password from Pioneer must be entered to continue with the update". From where can I get this password? If I choose the option "No" it shows me "Device info" with a code.

hi nikigenov, you are getting the pioneer update dialog if you are in regular stock nav mode... you are supposed to be in testmode to do the steps.

please go back and read the directions once more then try again.

I wasn't able to get the update to work after following the instructions in here or the one's from the other post. I decided to delete the My Flash folder while in testmode and managed to get to the aplupdate program and run it. The unit restarts and shows a blue screen that displays "Updating Image...". The image never changes or updates. I think I have done something permanent to mess up my unit. Please help if anyone can!

Please help!!!! I can provide more information if it is needed!

Or if anyone would like to help i can use email too.

basketthis,

what model of avic do you have (f310bt or u310bt) ?

did you put winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks from CNSD-130FM in root of the sdcard?