Hey all,

 

First, thank you all for the hard work! I appreciate all the great stuff this community shares.

 

I have a z120 upgraded to z130 via the CNSD-210FM upgrade. I ran the v1.2 script to replace the RenewalIFLib file, and it reported that the file was successfully replaced and initiated a reboot. After the reboot, the unit just hangs on the splash screen. I've tried several times to power cycle the unit both with and without an SD in place to no avail. The scripts will run but the unit will never fully boot to normal operation.

 

My guess is that I need to enter hack mode and replace some files to get things back to where they were, but could really use a little guidance.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-Mickey

During the install I accidentally inserted an SD with the Hackmode script. I think my problem is hackmode related rather than update related so I posted in that thread.

During the install I accidentally inserted an SD with the Hackmode script. I think my problem is hackmode related rather than update related so I posted in that thread.

check to see if you have a PRG.FLG that might be causing you to attempt to boot APL from PRG1 instead of PRG0 (That is, if PRG0 contains files with newer dates, i.e., newer version).

Hackmode did not quite work for me (i have 4.x APL in prg0 and 3.x APL in prg1, and with 4.0 OS, <4.x PRG/APL will not boot) - had to remove USER/PRG.FLG to get it to boot properly.

Finally after multiple tries and getting the "input password again" prompt I got it to work. I follwed each step to the letter each time, reformatted the SD cards multiple times...except I was using a Mac. I finally dug out my old Windows laptop, dusted it off, fired it up, and waited a few hours for it to download updates, create restore point, update, download updates, create restore point, update, then tell me the virus program was out of date, download that update...by now I remember why I don't like PC's. Download the z140 files, and condi files, copy to two seperate SD, copy the one replacement cif file from the Mac to SD, and still the "input password again" I retrace my steps, and this time download the cif file in post #12 on to the windows laptop directly, and copy to SD, and I be damned it does the update without a problem. So to any Mac users who may be pulling their hair out like I was trying to figure out what I was doing wrong, more than likely, if you use ANY of the files that were unziped on a Mac, odds are it's not going to work. Good thing I kept that one PC.

hurricane, did you use built in archive utility in mac, or something like 7zip or cmdline unzip directly to SD card volume?

I have had this exact problem before with F900bt updates (some igo/content/lang invisible mac files causing problems) - but oddly, i didnt have a problem with mac/finder copy. (Although I think I did use winzip mac to unzip to SD card come to think of it.)

pionara I used the built in then copied to the SD card, and i also tried directly to SD card, either way it would give me the "input password"

Ran this update on my Z110 at lunch. Looks like it took, but I will check it out to make sure after work.

I see some unscrupulous ebay sellers are hawking this update for 65 bucks - shame on you carcompuelectronics!!

I see some unscrupulous ebay sellers are hawking this update for 65 bucks - shame on you carcompuelectronics!!

That's crap. Perhaps we should barrage them with questions on the item...

Gave this a shot 2 hours ago, I used the scripted RenewalIFLib.dll v1.2 replacement method and then ran the update. It got all the way to 100%, rebooted, then started installing a few things - it got to something like 4/6 before it seemingly crashed. At first I thought it was just resetting again to complete the update, but it started moving in and out with the lights flashing in all sorts of weird patterns.

At first I thought it was just running through some new diagnostics or whatnot (I have a z110BT that was updated to z130BT), but it kept doing this for 5+ minutes. Then the lights just started flashing every 3-5s with the screen cycling on and off (from a black screen to a blank backlit black screen) every 2s. My heart sank

I tried running a few searches here and I'm afraid the unit is bricked.... I had been in a good mood because I'd gotten a $400 bonus for putting in extra time at work over the weekend, but now it looks like I'll probably have to spend it either getting this repaired or on a new unit? Do I have any other options?

download the super testmode.key from here:

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/35253-advanced-puzzles-testmodekey-scriptexecini/

put it on an sd or usb, stick it in, and see if it boots up to testmode. If it does, then you are ok. If it does not go into testmode then you are bricked - this is unusual - there have been several folks with z110bt updated to 130 that have had no trouble.

Could it be that maybe the SD card was bad or that the battery went out? This morning when I went to start the car the battery was only at 10v or something, I didn't leave the car running last night during the update because I didn't think that it could possibly draw that much power if only the GPS and accessories were on (headlights were off, dome lights were off, all speakers were off, only things on were the GPS and the indicator lights in the dash with the ignition turned to the "on" position). The battery should've been at full power, I'd just driven home from work on the freeway.

The SD card was also not the newest one I had, but I didn't think it could be a problem since it wrote fine and the first part got all the way to 100% fine. Thanks for this though, I'll give it a shot tonight and see if I can boot it up...

if your battery is at 10v, you may have a "dead" cell, and that is below safe operating voltage for many electronics. If you had a failure during the critical flashing parts and voltage was below normal, all bets are off as to what happened.

Anyhow, it would be easy to find out. With your car adequately powered (say: running), try booting into testmode as I mentioned. If it boots into testmode, then your unit can be recovered. If it does not boot into testmode, then you may need to send it in for service. Also, before you give up - do try booting to testmode with a different sd card (or usb stick).

I think I just bricked my x930bt while trying to update. I backed up my unit first from test mode. I replaced the Renewall files fine using the AutoReplacer with the modded renewall files from post 12. But when I inserted the z140 files, nothing happened and never got pass the boot screen. Tried the cardinfo from post 12 also, but the same result. So I tried to undo everything and restore the backed up files through hackmode. Now I get a "no applicable program" message and cant get back to the hackmode. Help.....

 

Update: I was able to get it running again. Before I was using Condi's hackmode 2.1 with the auto install, but it wouldn't load up hackmode when it restarted, and just gave me the "no applicable program" error. Used the hackmode 1.3 base and it loaded up from there and was able to restore all the files and get everything running again. I'll give the update another try tomorrow.

im having the same problem with my z12.....im able to now get into testmode i tried pasting in an av.exe i have but still getting no applicable program....what should i do@!!!! its a z13 that was updated to z13....and i put in the condi hackmode autoinstall and this happened..... please help!! im pretty sure i have a backup folder on my desktop ..... how do i "restore" from it?

if your battery is at 10v, you may have a "dead" cell, and that is below safe operating voltage for many electronics. If you had a failure during the critical flashing parts and voltage was below normal, all bets are off as to what happened.

 

Anyhow, it would be easy to find out. With your car adequately powered (say: running), try booting into testmode as I mentioned. If it boots into testmode, then your unit can be recovered. If it does not boot into testmode, then you may need to send it in for service. Also, before you give up - do try booting to testmode with a different sd card (or usb stick).

mine took a crap when i put in the condi auto boot and stuck at no applicabl program screen...I am able ot get into testmode....how do i recover my unit?

mine took a crap when i put in the condi auto boot and stuck at no applicabl program screen...I am able ot get into testmode....how do i recover my unit?

I was in the same boat today, my problem was caused by inadvertently installing "Condi's HACKMODE v2.21 - AUTOINSTAL" instead of "RenewalIFLib-AUTO-REPLACER v1.2". It looked like the install worked, but on reboot threw an error message in 3 languages saying something about not finding any application (or words to that effect). I fixed it by:

1. Backing up /user (shoulda done that b4)

2. Renaming /USER/PRGx.FLG to /USER/PRG.FLG (had to copy it to SD & rename on computer).

3. Above might of fixed it, but I also deleted /USER/PRG0/APL/AV and AV.mscr, then copied AV app from PRG1/APL.

4. Remove Testmode SD

5 Rebooted fine into my old CNSD210-FM software. So I was back where I started - more-or-less - using PRG1 apps.

6. Went back and followed the "correct" instructions on installing "RenewalIFLib-AUTO-REPLACER v1.2" and the right CardInfo.cif for CNSD-210FM.

7. Installed the Z140 SD with no issues.

I was in the same boat today, my problem was caused by inadvertently installing "Condi's HACKMODE v2.21 - AUTOINSTAL" instead of "RenewalIFLib-AUTO-REPLACER v1.2". It looked like the install worked, but on reboot threw an error message in 3 languages saying something about not finding any application (or words to that effect). I fixed it by:

1. Backing up /user (shoulda done that b4)

2. Renaming /USER/PRGx.FLG to /USER/PRG.FLG (had to copy it to SD & rename on computer).

3. Above might of fixed it, but I also deleted /USER/PRG0/APL/AV and AV.mscr, then copied AV app from PRG1/APL.

4. Remove Testmode SD

5 Rebooted fine into my old CNSD210-FM software. So I was back where I started - more-or-less - using PRG1 apps.

6. Went back and followed the "correct" instructions on installing "RenewalIFLib-AUTO-REPLACER v1.2" and the right CardInfo.cif for CNSD-210FM.

Ron sounds like i did the same thing as you as i did the hackmode autoinstall inadvertantly.... now my problem is i went in an screwed with all sorts of files trying to replace and such....is it possible you can get me your backup folder of /user? please say yes....

Ron sounds like i did the same thing as you as i did the hackmode autoinstall inadvertantly.... now my problem is i went in an screwed with all sorts of files trying to replace and such....is it possible you can get me your backup folder of /user? please say yes....

First, try Renaming /USER/PRGx.FLG to /USER/PRG.FLG. In my case, that fixed it. Looks like my PRG1 files were OK.

First, try Renaming /USER/PRGx.FLG to /USER/PRG.FLG. In my case, that fixed it. Looks like my PRG1 files were OK.

What if say i may have possible deleted it some how? going out to the car to see if its in there...i hope....

First, try Renaming /USER/PRGx.FLG to /USER/PRG.FLG. In my case, that fixed it. Looks like my PRG1 files were OK.

yea....i dont have the PRGx.FLG file....or the PRG.FLG file...

What if say i may have possible deleted it some how? going out to the car to see if its in there...i hope....

Actually, its an empty file. The presense of it tells the loader to user PRG1. So you can just create one, probably with a hex editor or notepad.

im on my mac...no idea how im gonna do this....FML......

Actually, its an empty file. The presense of it tells the loader to user PRG1. So you can just create one, probably with a hex editor or notepad.

Ron!! i got on my other laptop and that did the freaking trick man....what a freaking relief...thank you so much..... now....do i dare do the upgrade now

Ron!! i got on my other laptop and that did the freaking trick man....what a freaking relief...thank you so much..... now....do i dare do the upgrade now

Great. Just do a full backup of /USER to an SD first. Then you're pretty safe.

Great. Just do a full backup of /USER to an SD first. Then you're pretty safe.

good idea...lol thanks again

Looks like I'm screwed, I tried the super testmode on a new SD card and still nothing. The worst part is that it's probably my fault for not idling the car while doing the upgrade, I assumed that if a laptop could run off a smaller LiON battery for hours, a little GPS unit could do an hour on a Duralast Gold yellow-top battery.

Is there any way I could restore the GPS OS on my own? Access some kind of BIOS or re-install? Failing that, what about those e-bayers who claim to be able to service the units for $120 + $15 shipping? If I need to shell out $400-500 to Pioneer to get it fixed I'd rather just sell the thing as-is, use my phone for navigation, and get a stereo.