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In Minsk, have a working Navitel for 930-940BT. The port GPS is operating. Does not work the voice instructions.

After two weeks, said will sell firmware

Copy the RenewallFLip.dll to your PC. Use a hex editor to change the offset at 1C30 from 05 00 A0 E1 to 00 00 A0 E3. If you have a prog1 folder copy the file from prog0 anyway!

how do i do this?do the steps?

can i get a video of how to t

I should note a few of the things I noticed right off the bat which are improvements from the X930 firmware:

 

1. FINALLY when looking up POIs it lists the city each one is in.. Previously if I looked up Starbucks, it would list 50 of them and tell me distance but I'd have to click on each one to see where it was which was a PITA.. Now the list contains the city so you can just narrow in on the one you want

2. Advanced app mode for iPhone

3. New Maps

 

I haven't had much time to play with the unit to see what other improvements there are.. But listing the city each POI is in was HUGE and that should have been a feature all along, it's ridiculous that it wasn't there before.

Can u show me the steps for the 1st part.

I tried to upgrde it but it will not show the new upgrade for it.

sigh...why am I not surprised that Pioneer gives you a different answer with every phone call....is it possible you have SOME form of VR due to the source of your installation software?

No, if you read the official documentation at http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/Map-Upgrades/NAVTEQ+2012+Map+Upgrade+for+AVIC-Z110BT,+AVIC-Z120BT,+and+AVIC-X920BT it states that you will lose VR on navigation, NOT audio playback.

^^^ just went though the manual and it said nothing about loosing nav voice.

^^^ just went though the manual and it said nothing about loosing nav voice.

it's deceptively worded - think it's on page 18? Functions enabled or disabled by upgrade: other functions - voice screen will no longer appear...

I actually found a way to get VR working on x930bt (assuming x940bt). Pioneer actually crippled VR in these models while letting Z130/140 keep the feature.

It involves patching your AplLib.dll to report a devicetype of z140bt instead of x930/x940 bt.

I'm wondering if I have any advanced beta-testers that received some reduced voice functionality to try to get it workign again?

(I think there will be only limited restoration - some features seem to not be present in the 2012 update that is floating around here).

But seems like it should be working...

here is the thread for x930bt and friends if any of you want to play along at home...

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/35293-challenge-restoring-vr-on-x930bt-and-friends/

 

 

it's deceptively worded - think it's on page 18? Functions enabled or disabled by upgrade: other functions - voice screen will no longer appear...

well, what I mean is that, unless there is a real hardware difference in terms of VR - which I highly doubt - then the features are only taken away in software, based upon device type. I assume either for increasing marketing value of higher tier (Z-series), or maybe for liability/legal (voice recognition software licensing, etc) reasons....

Anyhow, it should be possible - there may be some files missing - or maybe my mic sucks?

This is great, I think I will try and upgrade my x920BT this weekend.

Curious why the testmode and hex editing is necessary? Going from x920BT software to x930BT software was as simple as putting the files on to the MicroSD card and starting the unit; why is this so different?

Very interesting... I have a x920BT which is upgraded to the X940BT firmware now and subsequently has lost it's VR for navigation... I might try playing with it this weekend, after I get a nice good full backup of the unit of course..

Just to confirm, does upgrading a x930 to x940 firmware lose any testmode functionality? Can we still copy/paste even after the upgrade?

Just to confirm, does upgrading a x930 to x940 firmware lose any testmode functionality? Can we still copy/paste even after the upgrade?

Well, there are actually several "testmode" modes. The one that has floated around here for a long time was the basic "service" testmode that i guess techs and service centers get. With the 40 series, they disable the copy feature, presumably to prevent the kind of stuff we like to do here.

Anyhow, I found a way to generate other testmode keys, and specifically a "developer" (aka super) testmode that does have filecopy enabled. There are alot of other dangerous items in that testmode, so do be careful not to slice your fingers on anything...

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/35110-avic-f40bt-testmode-fixed-firmware/&do=findComment&comment=256194

Well, there are actually several "testmode" modes. The one that has floated around here for a long time was the basic "service" testmode that i guess techs and service centers get. With the 40 series, they disable the copy feature, presumably to prevent the kind of stuff we like to do here.

Anyhow, I found a way to generate other testmode keys, and specifically a "developer" (aka super) testmode that does have filecopy enabled. There are alot of other dangerous items in that testmode, so do be careful not to slice your fingers on anything...

http://avic411.com/i...re/#entry256194

Nice work! Looking forward to trying this upgrade this weekend. Any reasons not to push the 940 on a 930?

does this update have 2012 maps included with it?

HELP!!! my renewal.dll file doesnt look the same as what is expected at 1c30 , I tried searching for the pattern like LDforget on page 2 but I have that string in at least 10 places.

Is it safe to download the same renewal file onto the device like the one you guys have? OR what can I do?

ismail, what model and what software version do you have?

Please check that you updated to latest version for your model first.

You cannot just change anything that matches. It needs to be that instruction in a specific place within the code..

ismail, what model and what software version do you have?

Please check that you updated to latest version for your model first.

 

You cannot just change anything that matches. It needs to be that instruction in a specific place within the code..

Hi Pionara,

Its a x920bt that was upgraded with cnsd210 earlier , so platform version 3, How can I go about figuring out where that check is?

Hi Pionara,

 

Its a x920bt that was upgraded with cnsd210 earlier , so platform version 3, How can I go about figuring out where that check is?

Also I check out the the version prog1 directory has the correct numbers at 1C30, should I edit that one and flash?

mine was at the wrong spot as well but as long as the string is the same, modify them and upload it to your deck. it worked for me.

mine was at the wrong spot as well but as long as the string is the same, modify them and upload it to your deck. it worked for me.

did you edit all the strings? like I said before how do I know which one to edit?

no you dont just edit all the instructions

1. do you have USER\PRG.FLG file present on your system?

(if so your unit boots from PRG1 folder, otherwise it boots from PRG0 folder)

You can try taking that one, editing it and putting it back in place and trying it. It might work, it might not. Just make sure you take a backup of all the files you are replacing, so you can restore them if them if you mess things up...

no you dont just edit all the instructions

 

1. do you have USER\PRG.FLG file present on your system?

(if so your unit boots from PRG1 folder, otherwise it boots from PRG0 folder)

 

You can try taking that one, editing it and putting it back in place and trying it. It might work, it might not. Just make sure you take a backup of all the files you are replacing, so you can restore them if them if you mess things up...

Thank you Pionara, that did it my unit was indeed booting out prog1 dir. I flashed that file and was then able to upgrade. First thing I noticed is that AVlink option is gone

thanks again

ismail, what's avlink?

1. I backed up the contents of my 2011 map update microSD to my PC then formatted the card.
    
    
   
2. Download the Z140 firmware update here: https://docs.google....wVDg/edit?pli=1
   

Can you explain how to do number 1 for some of us?

Also, the Z140 update page has no files to download...

Thanks.