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By Ralpharn · Mar 11, 2013in Hacks/Mods💬 184 posts👁️ 73,582 views
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Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 01:20 UTC#26

Just curious, for $50 USD, does it include a legitimate, licensed copy of Igo 8.3 from Nav'N'Go?

I think we all know the answer to that question

Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 01:21 UTC#27

Any support for English or other languages besides Russian? What is the license for and where do you get it? What does it cost? I understand that this is still in it's infancy, but why is this whole thing so mysteriously tight-lipped?

Exactly why I am passing. Seems like free and donations is a better plan

Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 03:37 UTC#28

Exactly why I am passing. Seems like free and donations is a better plan

 

Agree! 50 USD could buy a nice PND made in China.

Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 07:38 UTC#29

RonS, Pioneerus have only one button with russian text at this time. And full English manual.

License is a file pioneerus.lic, generated for one device by internal serial number.

I'm not forcing anyone to buy my program. I developed it for six months. And I think that price is absolutely normal.I do not sell Igo or other navigation software. I sell only their program, which allows you to use other navigation software on the Pioneer AVIC 920-930-940.

Edited Mar 26, 2013 by Sanik
Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 12:37 UTC#30

Curious, what does RoHS ( Restriction on use of Hazardous Substances) have to do with software? Is that a typo or Is there some usability/safety requirement for RoHS?

 

Another question. How will running Igo NAV software affect the traffic reporting (assuming the traffic tuner is installed). There is a stand-alone "Traffic Alerts" applet/shortcut which lists all the nearby problems, but it has links back to the maps so you can see exactly where the incident is located. Would that work with Igo? Or would it fire-up the built-in NAV? If so, you'd have two nav apps running.

Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 12:52 UTC#31

I am sorry for error in your nickname.

 

No TMC support at this time. In my country TMC not used, and i have no ways to test it.

Posted Mar 26, 2013 · 13:52 UTC#32

I am sorry for error in your nickname.

LOL, I didn't even think of that. Seems obvious now.

Edited Mar 26, 2013 by RonS
Posted Mar 30, 2013 · 01:52 UTC#33

sorry sanik,

you know you just became my new hack target

watch out! :)

 

RonS, Pioneerus have only one button with russian text at this time. And full English manual.

License is a file pioneerus.lic, generated for one device by internal serial number.

I'm not forcing anyone to buy my program. I developed it for six months. And I think that price is absolutely normal.I do not sell Igo or other navigation software. I sell only their program, which allows you to use other navigation software on the Pioneer AVIC 920-930-940.

Posted Mar 30, 2013 · 15:15 UTC#34

pionara, in Russia we have too many hackers. And one good hacker can write good anti-hackers protection.

Edited Mar 30, 2013 by Sanik
Posted Mar 30, 2013 · 16:08 UTC#35

I don't think you'll get many paying customers once they realize there's a self-destruct switch that might go off if there ever is a glitch.  

Posted Mar 30, 2013 · 16:45 UTC#36

It is only for hackers. I must protect my product

Posted Apr 02, 2013 · 10:33 UTC#37

"I don't think you'll get many paying customers once they realize there's a self-destruct switch that might go off if there ever is a glitch. "

 

 

There isn't enough demand for $50

Posted Apr 02, 2013 · 13:00 UTC#38

"I don't think you'll get many paying customers once they realize there's a self-destruct switch that might go off if there ever is a glitch. "

 

 

There isn't enough demand for $50

Yeah, probably would make more money by going open-source and asking for contributions.  I really don't think this is worth $50, since you still need Igo and maps (which you'll have to buy or steal).  All it really does is add the capability to launch another app and fixes the GPS port sharing. I'd bet it took more programming effort to add the "protection" logic. 

The real market for this is in parts of the world not supported by Pioneer. And it gives another way to use HU's from US/Can in ROW. Not sure if that market is big enough to make much money. Whereas, at $5, many others might give it a try, just to play with. 

Edited Apr 03, 2013 by RonS
Posted Apr 02, 2013 · 13:24 UTC#39

Yeah, probably would make more money by going open-source and asking for contributions.  I really don't think this is worth $50, since you still need Igo and maps (which you'll have to buy or steal).  All it really does is add the capability to launch another app and fixes the GPS port sharing. I'd bet it took more programming effort to add the "protection" logic. 

The real market for this is in parts of the world not supported by Pioneer. And makes it gives another way to use HU's from US/Can in ROW. Not sure if that market is big enough to make much money. Whereas, at $5, many others might give it a try, just to play with. 

 

If we go OpenSource we would loose all the money coming from the regions not supported by Pioneer, as donations are not common there. So we don't believe it would raise the income, sorry. Instead it would make people who can google earn money on those who can't.

 

The capability to launch another app is not as easy to implement as you may probably think. You have to not only launch the app but also help it draw itself (while avoiding interfering with the native app) and help it produce some sound, also organize the switching between the native app and the new app. The first task was really tough. It's tough even if you know exactly how the native app draws itself, not to say when you don't know anything about it.

GPS port sharing is quite complicated also.

Edited Apr 02, 2013 by kunix
Posted Apr 03, 2013 · 17:18 UTC#40

I have recently bought and implemented the Pioneerus solution. It's not perfect yet but I find the inbuilt Pioneer navigation software very poor compared to those of IGO and Tomtom and I wanted to support these enterprising individuals to continue developing options for us. There are far too many who want something for nothing and without support (morally and financially) progress will always be slow.

 

So to those developing this software, well done and please continue.

Posted Apr 03, 2013 · 17:50 UTC#41

 I only have one thing to say, teamwork becomes great things

Posted Apr 07, 2013 · 16:29 UTC#42

 

Pioneerus power :)

Posted Apr 08, 2013 · 14:14 UTC#43

you have really Nice looking shell Condi,

Did you make this shell? can you share it?

also I've spotted Navigon logo, did you manage to have Navigon working?

Posted Apr 08, 2013 · 15:34 UTC#44

you have really Nice looking shell Condi,

Did you make this shell? can you share it?

also I've spotted Navigon logo, did you manage to have Navigon working?

yeah, thats my modded menu ;) for now i've managed to get working:

 

  • iGO8
  • AutoMapa EU
  • TomTom Navigator
  • Garmin (out of memory error after some clicks).

Got some Navigon versions for wince, need to test it /modify scripts,

and maybe we will get it working. The same thing with Garmin.

I have to get my avic out of car and get it on power adapter in home,

then I will have some time to figure it out.

 

I have to check if script for going back to currently started/chosen navi 

is working ok, no problem with share - I think tomorrow I will upload it.

Edited Apr 08, 2013 by condiczek
Posted Apr 08, 2013 · 20:26 UTC#45

That would be nice :)

 

Is it a lot of work to get TomTom to work?

iGO8 is not running great on my F940BT because after 10 minutes or so i have to reset my unit because it is not responding anymore.

Posted Apr 08, 2013 · 20:46 UTC#46

ATTENTION! Pioneerus sound channel hack work ONLY with program, then called original coredll. If you use coredl1.dll - patch sound channel manually in navigation executable or in config. 

Posted Apr 09, 2013 · 15:42 UTC#47

That would be nice :)

 

Is it a lot of work to get TomTom to work?

iGO8 is not running great on my F940BT because after 10 minutes or so i have to reset my unit because it is not responding anymore.

 

OK GUYS. TomTom with sound!!

 

Edited Apr 09, 2013 by condiczek
Posted Apr 09, 2013 · 19:45 UTC#48

Nice work!

Posted Apr 09, 2013 · 19:58 UTC#49

I want to add that currently the additional navigation program has to be launched as alien-navi.exe. Otherwise you will face some bugs (like windows flickering in the player mode, missing sound, etc.) So, those fancy menus created by separate programs are not fully supported yet.

Edited Apr 09, 2013 by kunix
Posted Apr 14, 2013 · 11:27 UTC#50

got Sygic (almost) working :)...

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