Have you guys ever tried to disable locking on the stock drive and putting it back in the Z1 to see what happens?

I didn't disable the locking on the stock drive, I was scared.

I also think I know what I was doing. I did NOT put the cover back on, I just shoved the drive in. And it looks like the cover has a little part which pushes a button down to say the drive is in. And without it the unit turns on and just the fan runs.

So FYI while testing... always put the cover back on.

I have the stock drive back in with one change, the boot up logo. I have made 3 full backups. 1 image, 1 set of partition images, and file transfers. I'll put the copied drive back in some time and see if the cover lets it boot up, I think it will. I think that was my only problem.

So changed the boot logo for $50. Doesn't really seem worth it. But I guess it does. I hope I like that logo :)

I've done that and am using an unlocked stock drive now. I have been completely unable to get the Z1 to work with a different drive. I tried sector copied images, file copyed/fdisked, and Ghosted it. None of those methods worked. The software just kept crashing moments after booting up.

Did you unlock the stock drive and then disable locking on that drive? And that worked?

Isn't pulp fiction successfully using another (larger) drive? I believe he had to manipulate the partitions to accomplish that didn't he?

03Aviator said:

Isn't pulp fiction successfully using another (larger) drive? I believe he had to manipulate the partitions to accomplish that didn't he?

Yes he is. But Cirbirus was having reboot problems with his which is why they HDD sticky is stuck where it is till people figure it out. I'm going to throw my hat into the ring since now I have a new laptop drive imaged and ready to put in and see how it goes.

03Aviator said:

Isn't pulp fiction successfully using another (larger) drive? I believe he had to manipulate the partitions to accomplish that didn't he?

No partition manipulation. Just creating standard WIN32 partitions and applying the ghost image. Only manipulation was disabling the drivelock.

Pulp_Fiction said:

03Aviator said:

Isn't pulp fiction successfully using another (larger) drive? I believe he had to manipulate the partitions to accomplish that didn't he?

No partition manipulation. Just creating standard WIN32 partitions and applying the ghost image. Only manipulation was disabling the drivelock.

Oh and if you do a ghost image of the whole drive from one to the other and let it resize the partitions, it will by default try to increase the LDATA partition, just drop down the size to the stock size and tell it to increase the MVS partition. It should work just ghosting the whole drive over, instead of partition by partition.

ducatiboy said:

Pulp_Fiction said:

03Aviator said:

Isn't pulp fiction successfully using another (larger) drive? I believe he had to manipulate the partitions to accomplish that didn't he?

No partition manipulation. Just creating standard WIN32 partitions and applying the ghost image. Only manipulation was disabling the drivelock.

Oh and if you do a ghost image of the whole drive from one to the other and let it resize the partitions, it will by default try to increase the LDATA partition, just drop down the size to the stock size and tell it to increase the MVS partition. It should work just ghosting the whole drive over, instead of partition by partition.

Good to know. I didn't try doing that. Now lets wait until you confirm the larger drive works to put that in gold. :D

Pulp_Fiction said:

Good to know. I didn't try doing that. Now lets wait until you confirm the larger drive works to put that in gold. :D

Larger drive (I used a 40gig) is working like a champ! No problems. Mine is a Hitachi drive. Also security is disabled. I'll use it for a few days and tell you if I notice any weird issues.

What I ended up doing last was just what pulp_fiction did. Create all the partitions in XP manager and format them fat 32, then ghost each partition to each new one. I did the ghost all in one, and I think that would work too. But to not confuse anyone, I didn't do that and see it work yet.

Well, bad news. Mine is not working well. Last night I booted it up a few times, saw that it worked, played a few songs last night, etc. Seemed like it was working.

But this morning I left the new drive in on the way to work, after 5 mintues or so, the screen just froze on whatever it was on. And the thing locked up. It still played what ever it was on (happened to be a cd-rom of mp3's this morning). The volume buttons worked. The volume buttons in me steering wheel worked. The eject button on the front panel worked, but the screen didn't change to the eject screen. Nothing else worked.

What was pretty funny, was on my way to work, at stop lights I would turn off the truck and turn it back on and let it reboot, and it kept putting my gps position back near my house. Then as I was driving, it would fight between putting me on 2 diverging roads and then gave up and said I was driving through a field and then it locked up.

When I got to work, in the parking lot, I restarted and it put my position there correctly, then it locked up eventually there as well.

So my drive experiment didn't go so well either.

It still works with the stock drive (I knew I should have brought that to work) :) I have the image and can try a different drive, I can use a 30 gig that I have as well. Who knows. I think I did it just like Pulp's one.

ducatiboy said:

Well, bad news. Mine is not working well. Last night I booted it up a few times, saw that it worked, played a few songs last night, etc. Seemed like it was working.

But this morning I left the new drive in on the way to work, after 5 mintues or so, the screen just froze on whatever it was on. And the thing locked up. It still played what ever it was on (happened to be a cd-rom of mp3's this morning). The volume buttons worked. The volume buttons in me steering wheel worked. The eject button on the front panel worked, but the screen didn't change to the eject screen. Nothing else worked.

What was pretty funny, was on my way to work, at stop lights I would turn off the truck and turn it back on and let it reboot, and it kept putting my gps position back near my house. Then as I was driving, it would fight between putting me on 2 diverging roads and then gave up and said I was driving through a field and then it locked up.

When I got to work, in the parking lot, I restarted and it put my position there correctly, then it locked up eventually there as well.

So my drive experiment didn't go so well either.

It still works with the stock drive (I knew I should have brought that to work) :) I have the image and can try a different drive, I can use a 30 gig that I have as well. Who knows. I think I did it just like Pulp's one.

Damn, bad news.

I guess I'm going to get another drive and image it up to see what happens. I hope I didn't just get lucky.

Damn, that sucks.

Well at least I know it's not that I'm grossly incompetent...

Cirbirus said:

Well at least I know it's not that I'm grossly incompetent...

Are you sure that it would rule it out? :)

ducatiboy said:

Cirbirus said:

Well at least I know it's not that I'm grossly incompetent...

Are you sure that it would rule it out? :)

LOL, oh yeah... I guess not. ;)

Any further word on getting that hard drive to work with your Z1?

I gave up and bought a new 60GB iPod, I just wish the iPod interface didn't suck so badly.

Before I start, I just like y'all to know that I do not own a z1 yet, currently with my n1. I did not bother to read all of the pages. Just happened to read about different drives and locking/unlocking.

I guess the only thing I want to know is, those of you who unlocked the stock drive and ghost it to the new drive, did you locked it with the same unlock key of the stock drive? If you guys ever modded xboxes, you know that you need the same hdd key to lock the new drive for it to work.

So if you can find your original stock hdd key, lock the new drive with the stock key and see what happens. Hope this isn't covered in the numerous pages that i didn't read, and hope that this helps a little.

Nobody knows what the key is. The software being used doesn't give out that information. I know it's a long read, but that is discussed in the thread.

We already tried changing the password to something we knew and relocking the drive, when the drive was put back into the Z1, the hard drive password was changed to what the Z1 wanted and was re-locked. The master and user passwords are overwritten every time the drive is re-inserted (or maybe every time it's powered up).

And one guy has unlocked a drive and disabled unlocking (at least on the stock drive) and the new non-lockabe drives worked fine (at least in one Z1). So it's not a locking issue (at least as far as we know).

ducatiboy said:

We already tried changing the password to something we knew and relocking the drive, when the drive was put back into the Z1, the hard drive password was changed to what the Z1 wanted and was re-locked. The master and user passwords are overwritten every time the drive is re-inserted (or maybe every time it's powered up).

And one guy has unlocked a drive and disabled unlocking (at least on the stock drive) and the new non-lockabe drives worked fine (at least in one Z1). So it's not a locking issue (at least as far as we know).

I've been running the replacement drive in an unlocked state for about a month now with no issues. Sadly I'm the only one. There must be something "special" about my Z1.....

I really think it's just some process or hard part you are using that is working Pulp...not the Z1. I think this is provable by trying your drive in another Z1. Maybe you could set up another drive just EXACTLY like yours and ship it to Ducatiboy and see how it works. If it works in yours, and not his...then we have problems.

03Aviator said:

I really think it's just some process or hard part you are using that is working Pulp...not the Z1. I think this is provable by trying your drive in another Z1. Maybe you could set up another drive just EXACTLY like yours and ship it to Ducatiboy and see how it works. If it works in yours, and not his...then we have problems.

You are SOOOO funny or psychic.

I did exactly that already with no luck. Ran a drive in my Z1 for a weekend with no problems. Sent it to Ducati. He tried it for 5-15 min. and it crashed.

Wonder if the issues being caused with crasing are physically because we were trying to use your image, not our own.....

Time to invest in an unlock of my drive

Andy

Well, that's something I can try.

Pulp, I have your drive which you said worked fine in your Z1. But crashes in mine, I have an image of mine, which I tried on a different drive, maybe I should wipe out your drive and load my image on your drive and see if that helps.

Might work... WHAT are the specs on the "new" drive pulp sent you?

It's a Fujitsu MHV2080AH (80 gig drive). I don't have partition sizes or anything, it's what ever pulp sent to me.