ARGHHHHHHHHHH WTF PIONEER! My discs still never shipped. I called today and she said it was backordered. They did arrive into port on Saturday, but is sitting in a trailer by their warehouse in Cali. As soon as it is unloaded and scanned into inventory it will be shipped to me (today or tomorrow). Thanks for letting me know it was backordered! Took two phone calls to find out LOL

yea let us know how the new discs are. Hopefully not as many "dead" spots

ARGHHHHHHHHHH WTF PIONEER! My discs still never shipped. I called today and she said it was backordered. They did arrive into port on Saturday, but is sitting in a trailer by their warehouse in Cali. As soon as it is unloaded and scanned into inventory it will be shipped to me (today or tomorrow). Thanks for letting me know it was backordered! Took two phone calls to find out LOL

Thanks for being our guinea pig. We're waiting with ya man. Hope it comes in at a timely manner.

According to UPS, mine didn't ship out until the 12th, despite the Pioneer website stating they shipped on the 10th. I ordered a remote for my wife's Z2 and thought it odd that they shipped my products in two different packages. I wonder if my discs were almost declared on backorder as well.

Oh well... according to the UPS website, both packages arrived in MD today and should be in VA tomorrow. Of course, UPS won't deliver until the scheduled date, so I won't get either package until Wednesday.

CORRECTION: Map data is AS OF APRIL 2006

Well... will wonders never cease. I got home last night to discover that UPS delivered my packages a day early. Two boxes, both the same size, and both wrapped w/ the same "REPACK" tape. I'm not sure what happened there. Anyway, one box contained the remote I ordered for my wife for her Z2 (CD-RV1, but that is another thread). The second box contained my update discs.

I haven't seen any posts talking about the upgrade discs or how to perform the upgrade, but then again, I didn't search... anyway... here's my experience:

They came in a cardboard binder, about the size of a hardback book. There were the discs (east and west), 2 sets of instructions (one sheet for the N1, N2, N3, D1 and D2 and then another sheet for the remainder of the models these updates cover), and a registration/warranty card. Upgrading is pretty simple, just put the disc in your units DVD/CD slot, allow it to load, and the unit will recognize a file instructing it to update. The process to update doesn't take long and there is a progress screen. Of course, it is accompanied w/ all the "Do not power down the unit" warnings.

I did a bad thing, though, now that I think about it. I wanted to preserve my boot up screen and also add some custom backgrounds (my previous attempt failed because I didn't use all uppercase letters in the filename AND extensions). So, my first stop was my computer. I didn't need anything special to read the contents of the disc, so I copied the files to my hard drive, inserted my own files in place of BGOPEN2.JPG and in the BG2DIN (you know what I mean) directory, and then just burned a copy of the files to a DVD+R DL disc, named the same as the original. Then I used my copy to perform the upgrade. Good thing it worked. I probably should have upgraded from the original and then inserted my copy just to ensure no mishaps from a corrupted file created during the copy/burn process. But everything seems to be ok.

Here are some things I've noticed:

• road colors have changed from green to blue
   
  More POI (obviously)
   
  New Roads (obviously)
   
  No QWERTY keyboard
   
  I can't comment on the XM icons, I don't have XM (yet)
   
  I was able to upgrade post bypass
   
  This one is just odd: I had a meeting in Richmond yesterday, so my 60 series disc routed me down a couple of local streets to a local county bypass/Parkway and onto I-95. The 70 series disc routes me out of my neighborhood and onto I-66, 495, then onto I-95 to Richmond. And just to see if it was the Fast/Short setting, I recalculated the route using "Short." The Short route took me to VA-17 to I-95 to Richmond.
   
  The map data is "AS OF APRIL 2005" meaning that it is 2 years old, despite being the 2007 database... I can understand having to set a cutoff date for publishing updates, but it seems to me it could have been a little closer to release date. I don't know the process, so I could be wrong.
  

All in all, I'm pleased. Some updates to the map data I expected are not there. Example: there is a new section of road next to my office building that I expected to be on the map. It isn't. The road was changed from a 2 lane to 4 lane (physically and on the map) but the new section which connects 2 avenues isn't on the map. But I can live with things like that. I would have loved to have a qwerty keyboard layout. Anyone know how to hack the keymap??

~Nyte

edited 7/20/2007 to add correction notice at top of post

No QWERTY keyboard?? I didn't know it had it in the beginning?? My D2 has it in alphabetical order. Please clarify that you can still enter addresses via touchscreen.

I'm also concerned about the statement you said that says it's up to date up to April 2005? I know the Navi discs from the D3 will not work with most of our units, but the Navi disc that comes with the D3 has streets that were completed in early 2006. So my question(and I understand if you can't answer) is that are the Navi discs that come with the D3 more updated than even these new CNDV-70MTP discs?

No QWERTY keyboard?? I didn't know it had it in the beginning?? My D2 has it in alphabetical order. Please clarify that you can still enter addresses via touchscreen.

Yes, you can still enter information via touch screen. My wife's Z2 has a QWERTY keyboard, not the alphabetical order keyboard that you and I have. I read another post where someone thought it might just be a simple software upgrade. Well, if it is, it didn't get put on this disc.

I'm also concerned about the statement you said that says it's up to date up to April 2005? I know the Navi discs from the D3 will not work with most of our units, but the Navi disc that comes with the D3 has streets that were completed in early 2006. So my question(and I understand if you can't answer) is that are the Navi discs that come with the D3 more updated than even these new CNDV-70MTP discs?

The disclaimer section of the upgrade instructions states that the map data is through end of April 2005. Now I thought maybe it was a typo, but the same statement is on both instruction sheets. I'll double check the disclaimer again. I'll check my wife's Z2 manual and see if there is any comments about the map data for her unit. It should be the same data. Stranger things have happened, but I'm guessing that Pioneer didn't purchase several different databases from TeleAtlas for the different products. If someone could check the manual for a D3 and see if there is any reference to the map data there, that would be great too.

Here's a quick check for me that you could possibly do. Are there any roads that you know for sure that were built after the date of April 2005 that are on the disc? Thanks so much for giving us so much feedback.

I stand corrected. The actual disclaimer reads...

"Data for the Map Database

This database was developed and recorded up to April 2006. Changes to streets/roads made after that time may not be reflected in this database"

That's what I get for not checking more closely. I apologize for the earlier mistake. It is 2006, not 2005. Maybe it's time to get my eyes checked.

Phew! Now it all makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

can someone post a link or put it on torrent

can someone post a link or put it on torrent

A torrent of both East and West discs [CNDV-70MTP] is now available on Isohunt and perhaps other sites.

Here's what I've noticed about the CNDV-70MTP so far.

That stupid "BROWSE" option that was grayed out was replaced with "My Favorites" which is NOT grayed out. It serves the same purpose.

So in other words, sports works.

POIs and roads have been updated.

XM icons have been updated to reflect the new icons on www.xmradio.com. In addition, the "generic" XM icons look MUCH more professional. It's actually a smooth, anti-aliased XM logo.

I haven't navigated with them yet. I have just updated.

The new disk doesn't have a start up picture or any backgrounds... Did anyone find a way to add custom backgrounds to this version?

The new disk doesn't have a start up picture or any backgrounds... Did anyone find a way to add custom backgrounds to this version?

I made an iso and injected background files from a 2006 disc and put a PIM2DIN folder with some backgrounds. Im going to try this tomorrow

The new disk doesn't have a start up picture or any backgrounds... Did anyone find a way to add custom backgrounds to this version?

 

I made an iso and injected background files from a 2006 disc and put a PIM2DIN folder with some backgrounds. Im going to try this tomorrow

Yes. please let me know if this works, I was wondering the same thing, I lost my custom background when I upgraded.

Why did Pioneer take out all of the backgrounds and start up picture in this version? It just doesn't make any sense.

Anyone have the real 70MTP that can verify if they are not on it? Im wondering if the person who ripped the torrent iso didnt rip it right

Anyone have the real 70MTP that can verify if they are not on it? Im wondering if the person who ripped the torrent iso didnt rip it right

LOL You are slling copies and dont even own an original set j/k

But yes the original discs have all 0k PIM files. very strange.

Anyone have the real 70MTP that can verify if they are not on it? Im wondering if the person who ripped the torrent iso didnt rip it right

LOL You are slling copies and dont even own an original set j/k

 

But yes the original discs have all 0k PIM files. very strange.

Had them. Sold them. I ripped it and then got rid of them. Im just wondering If my program missed the PIM2DIN folders as such as it doesnt have it...

Now you are contradicting yourself... You ripped yourself a copy, then ask a question about a torrent you downloaded? Maybe next excuse you will say you lost or scratched your ripped copy after you sold your original discs? n

Torrent it FINE!! i ripped it, and it works!!

Dont lie, or cheat your self... LOL downloading the torrent is BAD, lol.. Yeah, and so is'ent charging 250.00 for updated maps. THAT SUCKS!

So just download it, be nice to others...dont ask stupid questions, with out the, "Sorry NOOB question", and a PLEASE helps alot!!

I'll will help anyone out who needs it! If you got manners.

I might be new to this forum...But my experence is HUGE with these systems now!

Even more so with the software!! I re-wrote the DVD for my likings!! (ALONG TIME!!! ALONG TIME!! to do, many used up DVD's for trial and error!!)

LOL Really? Try hacking dbf files like I did. Adding a few JPGs and PIMs for backgrounds and gauges is kids stuff

(Sorry for being sarcastic)

Thanks for your kind words, but i do alot more then change .PIM files, although that is fun, and easy, i perfer to really get in to things!! You have fun!!

Now you are contradicting yourself... You ripped yourself a copy, then ask a question about a torrent you downloaded? Maybe next excuse you will say you lost or scratched your ripped copy after you sold your original discs? n

How am I contradicting myself? I ripped my own and the background files werent in it. So I downloaded the torrent, and it is the same result. Im sorry Mr High and Mighty "I have the real disc blah blah blah".... Dont be mad because the torrents are stealing your business.