I think it's time to start a new thread for this topic, as the ISO begging thread was for ISO begging and the Image is now available to all. I think we should move our discussion here so we can all experiment with different drives types and speeds and find out what the best replacement, and the fastest replacement drives are that will work in our Nav systems without it rebooted periosically.

I tested the stock HDD and of course it doesn't reboot at all, but I also tried an 80GB 5400 Hitchachi HTS548080M9AT00, and it reboots about every 15 - 30 mins.

Lets share our results

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I just took my 80GB out for a ride again (might as well I forgot to disable the ATA password, DOH) and I find that it seems to reboot less, when I am driving. if I am still (ie programming my POI Overlays) I find it reboots about every 15 mins, but when I am driving around it can take an 30-45 minutes, maybe it's just coincidence but if would lead some backing to the theory that the draw in current could be the reason for rebooting, is it possible that when driving around that the alternator is providing more power and the system doesn't reboot as much until I slow down or stop, (like when I stopped for some BK burgers, it rebooted while I was waiting, but not at all for the first part of a 45 min drive. Any other thoughts as to what is causing the reboots? is any manufacturer better then another? will a 7200 RPM Toshiba drive work properly and boot even faster then 5400 RPM Toshiba drive 4034GAX what is supposed to work fine with extended music? could empty free space on the drives be casing the issue... maybe the drive tries to read into the empty parts of the larger drives we've been trying.... Please all ideas and comments welcome

I downloaded the image from the newsgroups for my install. I also have the torrents still downloading and will continue to seed them for several weeks once they complete.

I tried to install to a Fujitsu 60gb MHV2060AH 5400 rpm drive ($60 at Fry's), and it completed the update, then rebooted quite frequently.

Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on the original drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book.

I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance.

FUJITSU MHV2060AH 60GB 5400rpm reboots too

I downloaded the image from the newsgroups for my install. I also have the torrents still downloading and will continue to seed them for several weeks once they complete.

 

I tried to install to a Fujitsu MHV2060AH 5400 rpm drive ($60 at Fry's), and it completed the update, then rebooted quite frequently.

 

Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book.

 

I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance.

I did the exact same thing, I didn't want to pay the $43 US or whatever, so I forked over the $5 and loaded up the Z2 image, so unless you really have a lot of cd's or some data worth saving, the $5 unlocker with the Z2 image is perfect for an upgrade, but now I want to increase the boot speed, honestly the extra space for music would be nice, but I would LOVE to have a perm increase in speed like I saw in the 5400 but stable like original, and if possible maybe a 7200? Who knows lets find out.

Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book.

 

I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance.

Where did you pay $5 to unlock the drive at?

Hitachi Travelstar HTS548040M9AT00 (40GB 5400 RPM) reboots around once every 45 minutes when driving.

Dave

fujitsu MHV2040AH also exhibited the same reboot problem.... unlocked and reused the stock toshiba drive to put the z2 image on.. works flawlessly.

Toshiba MK4018GAS 40GB 4200 rpm - reboots

Hitachi HTS548040M9AT00 40GB 5400 rpm- reboots

Fujitsu MHT2040AT 40GB 4200 rpm - reboots

All 3 would reboot after 10-15min.

Currently trying - Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm - Tried for 20min and no reboots so far. Tommorow when i drive to work ill know for sure.

Next I bit the bullet, and used the password unlocker ($5) on my original drive (no z1 backup to fall back to), turned ata security off, and then installed the image on th eoriginal drive. No rebooting issues. Everything is working great. FYI... you will loose all library music, and your GPS address book.

 

I am in the DFW area if anyone needs some assistance.

Where did you pay $5 to unlock the drive at?

http://www.hddunlock.com/

OK, we know the original works fine. I never heard of a rebooting issue when the z1 image. So what happens when you use the same drives that were rebooting with a z1 image. If it's a hardware issue, shouldn't they reboot on a z1 image? and if it is only on a z2 image, then what is demanding the greater power. just a couple of questions for thought to maybe help out.

OK, we know the original works fine. I never heard of a rebooting issue when the z1 image. So what happens when you use the same drives that were rebooting with a z1 image. If it's a hardware issue, shouldn't they reboot on a z1 image? and if it is only on a z2 image, then what is demanding the greater power. just a couple of questions for thought to maybe help out.

That's a good question. Anyone have a Z1 image they can send me? I can do this test right away, I'm lining up 4 or 5 different drives for more testing this week!

and oh ya...

Seagate Momentus 7200.1 (80G or 100G) - both reboots frequently regardless of heat or shock.

Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm -- 2+ hours of driving with radio and dvd playing no reboots so far.

I'm going to be getting a Sandisk flash drive, 32G for testing. No moving parts, much lower power draw, that should help confirm if it's a power draw issue .

It's a LOT faster than standard HDD's, but it's kinda pricey at $1100 lol.

Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm ... Full day with this HDD and no problems at all .. radio, dvd, bluetooth ipod etc.. Not one reboot.

Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm ... Full day with this HDD and no problems at all .. radio, dvd, bluetooth ipod etc.. Not one reboot.

Look like we should start the search for this hdd. Go Ebay

I installed a Toshiba MK6034GAX (ordered a 4032GAX, but this is what arrived) this afternoon, and it's been over an hour without a reboot. I'll update more tomorrow.

Dave

Rage: I got a backup image from my Z1 -- so it's not a fresh image but if you want it I could upload it somewhere if you would like..

dodgeboy: is that toshiba drive running the Z2 image?

Rage: I got a backup image from my Z1 -- so it's not a fresh image but if you want it I could upload it somewhere if you would like..

 

dodgeboy: is that toshiba drive running the Z2 image?

Can I have a copy please?

Thanks

This drive will handle the beating that a car installation will put on a hard drive. The drive is Hitachi Endurastar Extreme Environment Hard Drive, it is available in 30gig now and should be available soon in 40gig and 50gig. It is not cheap. The J4K model will handle temperatures between Operating -20 ~ 85°C; Non-operating -40 ~ 85°C.

Running a Toshiba MK4032GAX without issue with the Z2 image that was provided. I didn't increase the partition yet though. I did disable the security locking feature though. The bootup time is significantly faster than my older Z1.

Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm ... Full day with this HDD and no problems at all .. radio, dvd, bluetooth ipod etc.. Not one reboot.

 

Look like we should start the search for this hdd. Go Ebay

Why would I want to buy a drive that's exactly the same as the original.... IMO the point of replacing the drive is to get something faster and/or with more storage. For the price of what that drive costs you can just pay $5 and wipe your HDD clean and install the Z2 image.

Hitachi DK23EA-30 30GB 4200 rpm ... Full day with this HDD and no problems at all .. radio, dvd, bluetooth ipod etc.. Not one reboot.

 

Look like we should start the search for this hdd. Go Ebay

 

Why would I want to buy a drive that's exactly the same as the original.... IMO the point of replacing the drive is to get something faster and/or with more storage. For the price of what that drive costs you can just pay $5 and wipe your HDD clean and install the Z2 image.

Agree. What did I think?

Rage: I got a backup image from my Z1 -- so it's not a fresh image but if you want it I could upload it somewhere if you would like..

 

dodgeboy: is that toshiba drive running the Z2 image?

You got PM!

As soon as I get the image, I'll do some testing on the Z1 image on a few drives to get a better idea of what's going on.

BTW - noticed you're in Canada... which part?

Rage: I got a backup image from my Z1 -- so it's not a fresh image but if you want it I could upload it somewhere if you would like..

 

dodgeboy: is that toshiba drive running the Z2 image?

You got PM!

 

As soon as I get the image, I'll do some testing on the Z1 image on a few drives to get a better idea of what's going on.

 

BTW - noticed you're in Canada... which part?

ok sounds good! I'll rar and start the UL tonight.

It sounds like 1 or 2 people have got the z2 image working on certain drives -- so it will be interesting to see what happens with the z1 image.

I'm in Ontario -- Toronto area...