For all you bargain hunters out there:

 

The 2.5 to 3.5 IDE adapters are on sale at NewEgg for $1.99!!!

 

Rosewill RCW-603 Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" IDE Hard Drive Adapter Converter - Retail

Item #: N82E16812119020

 

I purchased one of these as well for $48.99

 

TOSHIBA HDD2D17 (MK6034GAX) 60GB 5400 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Item #: N82E16822149041

 

Combined shipping and handling was 7 bucks.

 

I didn't want to take the chance on turning my recently installed X1 (soon to be an X2) into a paperweight.

 

Now if I can just get the darn files to download without monitoring.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Richard

I currently don't use ANY of my music partition. However, I have in the past put a CD on it and seen how much more responsive it is over the iPod interface. So maybe with more space I might invest in some CD-RW and just burn a ton of music.

With that said, the other reasons I would consider upgrading are...

1. I want to do the Z1 -> Z2 image update. It would be nice to keep the original Z1 hard-disk. I am not sure if it is even possible to put it back in the Z1 after it becomes a Z2 though.

2. Speed!

The stock drive is 4200rpm right? So I would love to see faster response on the NAV.

If at some point someone finds an even faster than the drive listed above from NewEgg, man I would even be down for that.

I too have encountered the heat issue in SoCal. Today and yesterday my nav wouldnt POST. I had to wait till my car was cold inside (a/c) and then power off/on my car.

I finally got around to expanding the music partition on the Z2 image running on the Toshiba 60gb drive, and everything is working flawlessly.

I orignally imaged the 60gb, but left all the unused space as unallocated. I then began the process of ripping the cd's. I made it to 179 albums covering 155 artist before I filled the initial 10gb music partition. After expanding the music partition to use all the unallocated space (40 gb total), I am now only 25% full, and I have been able to start adding cds again (up to 400 albums or 400 artists). I decided to do this because the hdd is much faster than the ipod interface...

I started using cd-rw discs, but it was a pain having to erase them. I decided to pick up some 100 packs of cd-r from Circuit City for $8.99 ea. Can't beat .09 per disc

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/NexxTech ... tDetail.do

I've honestly never burned a RW disc in my life. I always have bought CD-R and just throw them away. I didn't know the process included having to 'erase' them. "F" that. I agree with the spindle.

I suppose one issue I have is that all my music is in iTunes. While I can browse the folder structure (../Artist/Album/Song.mp3) I don't have the original CD's. So this might not work perfectly then, because GraceNote won't know about my songs/artists/etc. , right? Hrmmm

I finally got around to expanding the music partition on the Z2 image running on the Toshiba 60gb drive, and everything is working flawlessly.

I orignally imaged the 60gb, but left all the unused space as unallocated. I then began the process of ripping the cd's. I made it to 179 albums covering 155 artist before I filled the initial 10gb music partition. After expanding the music partition to use all the unallocated space (40 gb total), I am now only 25% full, and I have been able to start adding cds again (up to 400 albums or 400 artists). I decided to do this because the hdd is much faster than the ipod interface...

 

I started using cd-rw discs, but it was a pain having to erase them. I decided to pick up some 100 packs of cd-r from Circuit City for $8.99 ea. Can't beat .09 per disc

 

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/NexxTech ... tDetail.do

You do not need Gracenotes if you use a burning software that supports cd-text. WMP does not support this. I know that Nero does support cd-text. It will pull the song name from the MP3 tag, and you will only have to type the album title and artist. I use this for any album that Gracenotes is not able to decipher.

I've figured out the pattern.... doing one more test to confirm. Suffice to say, I'm pretty sure that we can ONLY use Toshiba drives at this point.

Results:

Seagate ST910021A 2.6W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Seagate ST9100823A 2.3W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Seagate ST9160821A 2.0W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Toshiba MK4025GAS 2.6W max - no reboots

Toshiba MK4019GAX 2.9W max - no reboots

Fujitsu MHT2060AT 2.3W max - currently testing

As posted above, the MK6034GAX looks to have had success too....

I've figured out the pattern.... doing one more test to confirm. Suffice to say, I'm pretty sure that we can ONLY use Toshiba drives at this point.

 

Results:

Seagate ST910021A 2.6W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Seagate ST9100823A 2.3W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Seagate ST9160821A 2.0W max - reboots within 1 hour. After first reboot every 15 mins.

Toshiba MK4025GAS 2.6W max - no reboots

Toshiba MK4019GAX 2.9W max - no reboots

Fujitsu MHT2060AT 2.3W max - currently testing

As posted above, the MK6034GAX looks to have had success too....

At this point, I believe any Toshiba drive will work. There's definately a HDD type check in the firmware to ensure only Toshiba drives are used.

As posted above, the MK6034GAX looks to have had success too....

At this point, I believe any Toshiba drive will work. There's definately a HDD type check in the firmware to ensure only Toshiba drives are used.

Some of you guys have access to test all these drives, I don't. So if I saw there was a 5400 80GB toshiba with exactly the same specs as the others, I wouldn't want to take the risk in purchasing it. I really rely on you guys testing them, and I *do* appreciate it.

I think I am going to go the route of getting a new drive, restoring the Z2 image to it, rather then unlocking my 30gb and then restoring the Z2...

Now I just need to find the damn image. It is supposed to be on the newsgroups but ah well... anyhow, back to the topic.

I also really appreciate all the work you guys put in on testing theses drives.

I was thinking about getting a 120 gig toshiba drive, because i would like to have a lot of music on my system. Does anyone think this would be too big?

I was checking out this one from newegg because the specs seem to be the same as the toshiba drives that people are using without reboots.

TOSHIBA 120GB 2.5" ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

120GB

5400 RPM 8MB Cache

ATA-6

$70.99

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I also really appreciate all the work you guys put in on testing theses drives.

 

I was thinking about getting a 120 gig toshiba drive, because i would like to have a lot of music on my system. Does anyone think this would be too big?

 

I was checking out this one from newegg because the specs seem to be the same as the toshiba drives that people are using without reboots.

 

TOSHIBA 120GB 2.5" ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

120GB

5400 RPM 8MB Cache

ATA-6

$70.99

 

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

IMHO chances are good that drive will work.

Still, your limitations of the Z1/Z2 will hold you back with the what... 400 artists, 1000 albums? I forget... So with 110GB extra, what will you do with it? Also the possibility you'll drop the $70 bucks and find out it won't work. Good luck.

Thanks for the info Agro. I wasn't aware of the limits on artists ect.

I am still trying to read and learn as much as I can.

I really love my z1, but I want to get the new maps and upgrade to a z2, and while I'm at it, would like to make the drive bigger for music. but I guess that is limited.

So what would you reccomend for hard drive size? The 60 gig?

There are ways around the artist/album thing, if you want to tweak things. Like you could start combining stuff together, etc. Honestly I am just too damn lazy and want it to be easy.

The 60GB with about 50GB free space should give you more than you need to fill up those artist/album limitations. Maybe someday Pioneer or someone else will know how to bypass that and increase them. Then at that point I think we'd look to a bigger drive. IF the bigger drive worked without the restarts AND was faster then I would say that is the way to go, but if it has the same specs, I personally wouldn't waste the extra money for no benefit and also take on the risk of the drive possibly not even working.

I for one placed an order on Saturday for the 60GB Toshiba & 2.5" to 3.5" adapter from Newegg.com They sent me my tracking number tonight, should have it by Thursday. I figure, more space, faster and about the same as paying the unlock code for my 30GB Z1 drive, right? why not!

There are ways around the artist/album thing, if you want to tweak things. Like you could start combining stuff together, etc. Honestly I am just too damn lazy and want it to be easy.

 

The 60GB with about 50GB free space should give you more than you need to fill up those artist/album limitations. Maybe someday Pioneer or someone else will know how to bypass that and increase them. Then at that point I think we'd look to a bigger drive. IF the bigger drive worked without the restarts AND was faster then I would say that is the way to go, but if it has the same specs, I personally wouldn't waste the extra money for no benefit and also take on the risk of the drive possibly not even working.

 

I for one placed an order on Saturday for the 60GB Toshiba & 2.5" to 3.5" adapter from Newegg.com They sent me my tracking number tonight, should have it by Thursday. I figure, more space, faster and about the same as paying the unlock code for my 30GB Z1 drive, right? why not!

Well thanks for your advice. I will probably get the 60 gig, and see how it goes.

Would anyone be interested in selling me a new hard drive (mk8032 gax) with the Z2 info already on it. I have a Z2 that only works about 25% of the time due to the Houston heat. I would pay for the time and equipment to get this done for me. Or, is there a very simple way to down load this info directly to a new hard drive and then just replace the stock hard drive. I dont mean to sound lazy or stupid but this is not my expertice.

I also own a z2 that keeps locking up. I would also be interesed in purchasing a loaded z2. I'm in New York and mine bails out in 85 degree weather.

A big thanks to this thread for helping me avoid the hit or miss drive shoot. I purchased a Toshiba MK6034GAX from newegg and it works great. No reboots and noticeably faster than my Z1 drive.

Imaged and expanded the partitions and now have a fully functional Z2 in Z1 hardware. The added space seems to have showed up, but I usually use an Ipod and haven't had time to upload many CDs.

Anyway, can't thank everyone enough to help me from blowing money on a drive that wouldn't work like stock.

NYMETRANGER: PM me maybe we can work something out if your local. I don't know about the legal implications of that sort of thing. I'm on the island.

Has anyone replaced their HDD and had it cure the "freezing on startup" issue? Or the skipping through tracks in the library problem? I was thinking of trying to remote mount my stock drive, but if I could just spend $80 and get a new drive I'd prefer to do that.

ok some one plz post a link to a store i need a new HD

ok some one plz post a link to a store i need a new HD

Here are the ones people are using and not having problems with.

here is a 60 and 80 gig

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822149040

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822149041

ohhh this is AWSOME NOT!!!

they don't ship to Canada

ohhh this is AWSOME NOT!!!

they don't ship to Canada

Oh damn. I wasn't even thinking about where you were. Sorry.

lol its cool ill call them in 10 min see if i can get them to ship 1 for me

lol its cool ill call them in 10 min see if i can get them to ship 1 for me

LOL

yaa Canadians always get OWNED !!!

Has anyone replaced their HDD and had it cure the "freezing on startup" issue? Or the skipping through tracks in the library problem? I was thinking of trying to remote mount my stock drive, but if I could just spend $80 and get a new drive I'd prefer to do that.

I was having the freezing on start-up and the library skipping problem. I bought the 60 gig toshiba drive and have not had one freeze-up yet! (Now I just jinxed myself)...

This is on a Z2.

Jason