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WT7600NEX & WT8600NEX First Impressions

By mapotter99 · May 30, 2020in NEX Series💬 144 posts👁️ 36,168 views
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Posted Jun 21, 2020 · 01:36 UTC#26
2 hours ago, fshrlou said:

Those are great Install pictures from those who posted.  Very glad I found this forum. Learned quite a bit already.  
 

Wanted to update you all on my bypass trials and errors.  Found a company on eBay that was advertising in motion bypass for 2020 Pioneer NEX’s.  It’s a triple pulse bypass.  I had initially installed my WT7600 with a double pulse, which did work until I started moving.  Ordered one thinking it would help with the speed pulse wire error.  Received it, installed it, and once the 3D Calibration had initialized, I lost video.  Went to Settings/System Information/3D Calibration and tapped on the Learning button.  Chose Reset All, then video came back.  At one point I had video for 13 minutes, then made a few turns, slowed down, then lost it until I came to a stop.  If you have the VSS wire connected and reset everything, it will eventually initialize to 3D Hybrid and you will lose video.  If the speed sense wire is not connected at all and you reset the learning, video will work briefly until the system initializes to a Simple Hybrid, the video is lost.  
 

I drive with the kids a lot, so it’s more important to me than losing CarPlay functionality.  Someone had posted that they pulled the GPS plug.  Did video stay on consistently, or did it eventually go off?

Thanks for the help. 

I had the GPS plug pulled on mine today and so far so good we'll see if that fixes the problem. Also the bypass on ebay that you ordered didn't work for you 

Posted Jun 21, 2020 · 03:48 UTC#27

The bypass did work for parking brake and speed pulse error message, but doesn’t help for the motion issues we are dealing with.  Thanks for the update on disconnecting the GPS antenna.  I will pull the dash tonight and try it. 

Posted Jun 21, 2020 · 04:17 UTC#28

What is all the 3D calibration for?? I can see it’s learning what direction my car is moving but what’s the purpose?

Posted Jun 21, 2020 · 17:26 UTC#29

It’s to provide better location and turn-by-turn accuracy when using map apps on CarPlay and Android Auto.  Unfortunately, the in motion video feature is attached. 
 

I was able to pull the GPS plug and did a 20 minutes test run last night.  The video is still on.  I’ll try some more today. 

Posted Jun 22, 2020 · 01:47 UTC#30

I’m happy to report that it’s been almost a day, and with multiple trips around town, the video is still working with the GPS antenna unplugged.  Went to the 3D Calibration setting and it just says initializing.  The double or triple pulse bypass and the GPS antenna unplugged, looks like that’s the winning combo for video all the time.  Thanks for your ideas and input. 

Posted Jun 23, 2020 · 20:42 UTC#31

Does anyone have a issue with the screen flickering i had this issue i was sent a replacement radio and this one is doing it. Everything works fine just get a flicker 

Posted Jun 23, 2020 · 23:20 UTC#32

@Hawknbyrd My initial unit did it. I had it replaced through Crutchfield, and my second unit hasn’t done it at all. 

My initial thought is it may be related to having to pull the screen connector wire through the unit to make slack, but I’m not sure. 

I’m sorry to hear that someone else has this issue. That means it could be fairly common.  

Edited Jun 23, 2020 by mapotter99
Posted Jun 24, 2020 · 00:54 UTC#33

Regarding the flicker.... I am also experiencing this..  I guess since others are experiencing it it means that my frustrations are shared.  I initially thought it was a loose connection but it happens even if I am sitting still. I have tried to wiggle the screen cord and reconnect it without any change. It also is happening intermittently. Sometimes I drive and it doesn’t happen at all, others it flickers every 10-20 seconds.

 

I contacted tech support who asked if I updated the firmware and that the update should fix it. I expressed that I am unable to successfully update it through CarAVAssist and that I the firmware is not available online. He said it would be online in the next week. I am going to update the firmware when I can and then begin return procedures if that doesn’t improve it.

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Posted Jun 24, 2020 · 01:37 UTC#34
42 minutes ago, mfvtgtgs said:

Regarding the flicker.... I am also experiencing this..  I guess since others are experiencing it it means that my frustrations are shared.  I initially thought it was a loose connection but it happens even if I am sitting still. I have tried to wiggle the screen cord and reconnect it without any change. It also is happening intermittently. Sometimes I drive and it doesn’t happen at all, others it flickers every 10-20 seconds.

 

I contacted tech support who asked if I updated the firmware and that the update should fix it. I expressed that I am unable to successfully update it through CarAVAssist and that I the firmware is not available online. He said it would be online in the next week. I am going to update the firmware when I can and then begin return procedures if that doesn’t improve it.

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The firmware process via the app is a joke! I wasn’t able to get it to go through either 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 03:04 UTC#35

I’m about to exchange my unit with Crutchfield, wireless CarPlay cutting In and out every time I drive my car is unacceptable in my opinion. Maybe for a cheap unit but this is anything but that. 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 07:30 UTC#36

Wifi Hotspot may be the problem with the video cutting in and out. When it's searching for a mobile hotspot the screen flickers from time to time

Edited Jun 25, 2020 by johnksss
Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 16:23 UTC#38
On 6/23/2020 at 7:20 PM, mapotter99 said:

@Hawknbyrd My initial unit did it. I had it replaced through Crutchfield, and my second unit hasn’t done it at all. 

My initial thought is it may be related to having to pull the screen connector wire through the unit to make slack, but I’m not sure. 

I’m sorry to hear that someone else has this issue. That means it could be fairly common.  

Hopefully it's a issue that they fix it's to expensive to be acting up 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 18:27 UTC#39
On 6/23/2020 at 9:37 PM, Dizle said:

The firmware process via the app is a joke! I wasn’t able to get it to go through either 

Once you download it from the app you have to go to the car the emergency brake has to be on and then go to settings then firmware update. Mine did it with no problem 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 19:24 UTC#40
56 minutes ago, Hawknbyrd said:

Once you download it from the app you have to go to the car the emergency brake has to be on and then go to settings then firmware update. Mine did it with no problem 

Ahhh I tried it before they had instructions out that mention the parking brake. Thanks, I’ll try it via USB tonight and report back. 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 19:55 UTC#41
On 6/8/2020 at 1:03 PM, Hawknbyrd said:

Have you figured out what wire it's connected to yet. It's driving me crazy i can't bypass 

same

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 20:50 UTC#42
On 6/21/2020 at 6:47 PM, fshrlou said:

I’m happy to report that it’s been almost a day, and with multiple trips around town, the video is still working with the GPS antenna unplugged.  Went to the 3D Calibration setting and it just says initializing.  The double or triple pulse bypass and the GPS antenna unplugged, looks like that’s the winning combo for video all the time.  Thanks for your ideas and input. 

except wireless apple carplay does not workout without GPS connected correct? 

Posted Jun 25, 2020 · 22:53 UTC#43
3 hours ago, Dizle said:

Ahhh I tried it before they had instructions out that mention the parking brake. Thanks, I’ll try it via USB tonight and report back. 

I did it wireless with the CarAVAssist

Posted Jun 28, 2020 · 01:43 UTC#44

I installed the 8600 this past Wednesday and I immediately updated to 1.13 soon after. However, I’ve been experiencing the random audio cut outs when using CarPlay. In attempts to figure this issue out I was able to reproduce this issue. The problem appears to be a weak WiFi signal between the unit and the iPhone when using CarPlay wirelessly. If I keep my Iphone within a 2-3 foot radius from the 8600...no cut outs. As I gradually moved my iPhone further away from the 8600 while in the car, the audio began cutting out. As I made it to my rear cargo area within my SUV, it completely lost connection from CarPlay. When I gradually moved the iPhone  back towards the 8600 it would auto reconnect to CarPlay. If I place my iPhone out the the driver side window, it loses connection with the audio stuttering until connection is lost.

The previous $400 Kenwood unit would auto connect wirelessly to CarPlay if my iPhone was anywhere within my garage while my vehicle was parked in the garage, so this comes as a surprise that the connection range is so short for a high end unit such as the 8600. Hopefully this can be fixed via a future firmware update.

 

Edited Jun 28, 2020 by Thorissr
Posted Jun 28, 2020 · 02:13 UTC#45
28 minutes ago, Thorissr said:

I installed the 8600 this past Wednesday and I immediately updated to 1.13 soon after. However, I’ve been experiencing the random audio cut outs when using CarPlay. In attempts to figure this issue out I was able to reproduce this issue. The problem appears to be a weak WiFi signal between the unit and the iPhone when using CarPlay wirelessly. If I keep my Iphone within a 2-3 foot radius from the 8600...no cut outs. As I gradually moved my iPhone further away from the 8600 while in the car, the audio began cutting out. As I made it to my rear cargo area within my SUV, it completely lost connection from CarPlay. When I gradually moved the iPhone  back towards the 8600 it would auto reconnect to CarPlay. If I place my iPhone out the the driver side window, it loses connection with the audio stuttering until connection is lost.

The previous $400 Kenwood unit would auto connect wirelessly to CarPlay if my iPhone was anywhere within my garage while my vehicle was parked in the garage, so this comes as a surprise that the connection range is so short for a high end unit such as the 8600. Hopefully this can be fixed via a future firmware update.

 

Agreed, wireless CarPlay is garbage! Using WiFi it should work anywhere in the vehicle, period. Bluetooth worked flawlessly with my stock 2015 head unit with my phone in a backpack in the truck. Wireless CarPlay cuts out with my phone in a cupholder 1 foot from the pioneer! 

Posted Jun 28, 2020 · 10:40 UTC#46

I’ll just go ahead and throw out that I’ve had zero problems with wireless CarPlay dropping out or range issues. 

My only problem with CarPlay is the robotic, poor-quality Siri and phone call voices. 

Something sounds like it isn’t working correctly for the connection to drop that easily. I’d probably request a replacement. 
 

Are you both using the 8600?  I’m using a 7600. 

Posted Jun 28, 2020 · 13:09 UTC#47
2 hours ago, mapotter99 said:

I’ll just go ahead and throw out that I’ve had zero problems with wireless CarPlay dropping out or range issues. 

My only problem with CarPlay is the robotic, poor-quality Siri and phone call voices. 

Something sounds like it isn’t working correctly for the connection to drop that easily. I’d probably request a replacement. 
 

Are you both using the 8600?  I’m using a 7600. 
 

I’m using the 8600. I’ve also noticed on the 8600 that Siri and phone calls sounds tinny compared to the voice navigation via CarPlay.

 

Posted Jun 28, 2020 · 13:53 UTC#48
3 hours ago, mapotter99 said:

I’ll just go ahead and throw out that I’ve had zero problems with wireless CarPlay dropping out or range issues. 

My only problem with CarPlay is the robotic, poor-quality Siri and phone call voices. 

Something sounds like it isn’t working correctly for the connection to drop that easily. I’d probably request a replacement. 
 

Are you both using the 8600?  I’m using a 7600. 

I have the 7600 as well 

Posted Jun 29, 2020 · 22:08 UTC#49
On 6/12/2020 at 11:11 PM, Dizle said:

How does Siri sound with your receiver? I have the wt7600 and when I ask Siri a question she responds with a robotic voice. When I’m following navigation Siri sounds fine. 

This is happening with mine too. I purchased it a week ago to put in my new Seqoia TRD Pro. I had the Alpine Halo in my TRD Sport and it worked great. This one has a better and bigger screen but if Pioneer doesn't get their stuff together I am returning and going back with the Alpine. This is definitely a pioneer issue!

 

Posted Jun 30, 2020 · 14:59 UTC#50

Looked through all settings and haven’t seen an option for custom Boot up splash screen. Am I missing something?

 

Thanks

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