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How to fix for AVH-W4400NEX boot loop

By HondaR · Feb 04, 2021in NEX Series💬 121 posts👁️ 73,791 views
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Posted Oct 09, 2021 · 14:28 UTC#26
On 5/27/2021 at 11:22 AM, Kyleboedeker said:

For those having Android Auto wireless issues with firmware 1.02 on the Pioneer NEX4400, here is a link to the original internal firmware version 1.0. You'll need to write this to the internal SD card on the unit in order to downgrade it. In my personal case, I wrote this image to the card, then upgraded the firmware to 1.01 and it completely solved all of my android auto connection issues. There is some kind of issue with android 11 and firmware 1.02. So this was the solution. Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KeU0s_btd_DcOLONqcjjVtRTkXgPG2SQ/view?usp=sharing

 

Hey Kyleboedeker,

Did you ever get an image of tge v1.01 update? I can't seem to find it anyway and Pioneer no longer has it on their site.

Posted Oct 15, 2021 · 17:47 UTC#27
On 10/9/2021 at 10:28 AM, IrishHomebrewer said:

Hey Kyleboedeker,

Did you ever get an image of tge v1.01 update? I can't seem to find it anyway and Pioneer no longer has it on their site.

https://www.touslesdrivers.com/php/constructeurs/redirection.php?v_code=59470

if not

https://fichiers.touslesdrivers.com/59470/AVH-W4400NEX_FW-Update_v1_01.zip

Posted Oct 26, 2021 · 14:49 UTC#28

@HondaR I have the same issue with my Pioneer DMH-W4660 NEX. How do I get an image for my unit?

Posted Nov 13, 2021 · 04:37 UTC#29

I followed these directions... using a 64gb micro in an adapter. Now the unit wont power on/boot at all. Harness gets power all the way to the plug. Is the adapter the problem?

 

I've cut a slot in the plastic in front of the main SD slot.. so I can access it easier. I've torn it apart twice now.. this cut makes it much easier for testing going forward. 

 

EDIT: I purchased 2 new 32gb cards, class 10, etc. to try. 1st was formatted to exFat for the Firmware and loaded... still had boot loop. The 2nd was formatted to Fat32 and had the Pioneer Update 1.02 loaded in the secondary slot along with the main Firmware card... still have boot loop. 

Edited Nov 13, 2021 by Moose1988 — Reason: still trying
Posted Nov 29, 2021 · 20:52 UTC#30

I have the W4500 that started going wacky in September, first it started in the boot loop, then it started working again, well somewhat working. Anyhow I ended up here looking for an answer, watched a few videos and ended up ordering the car from Russia on October 3rd. I took the front off the unit and cut out the slot with a 3/8 drill and a file for when the sd card shows up I am ready to switch it out. Haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I should have ordered the card from Pioneer but I called them and asked if the software came with the sd card for $100, they told me no. So I called a supplier of theirs, I think it was “PacParts”, same price. I asked them if the software came with the card and they said yes. So since the unit functions good enough for now I’ll wait to see if the Russian card shows up for a little while longer. 

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Edited Nov 29, 2021 by Datsun
Posted Dec 12, 2021 · 14:43 UTC#32

Hi I tried to sign up but did not undestand the requiered field with the AV_c_1 ?

I have a Pioneer AVH-Z9100DAB and i am looking for the .IMG file for that unit, I have the same issue with the boot loop.

thanks for a nice worktruogh.

John from denmark.

Posted Dec 21, 2021 · 21:20 UTC#33
On 11/29/2021 at 2:52 PM, Datsun said:

I have the W4500 that started going wacky in September, first it started in the boot loop, then it started working again, well somewhat working. Anyhow I ended up here looking for an answer, watched a few videos and ended up ordering the car from Russia on October 3rd. I took the front off the unit and cut out the slot with a 3/8 drill and a file for when the sd card shows up I am ready to switch it out. Haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I should have ordered the card from Pioneer but I called them and asked if the software came with the sd card for $100, they told me no. So I called a supplier of theirs, I think it was “PacParts”, same price. I asked them if the software came with the card and they said yes. So since the unit functions good enough for now I’ll wait to see if the Russian card shows up for a little while longer. 

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I did the same as @Datsun above however did so with the unit in the car. Overall process to cut the slot and swap cards was 15 minutes which included setting up the dremel and laying out the slot. Here's how I did it:

  1. Start unit and press eject then select SD.
  2. Once the face slides down, unplug the negative battery terminal to the vehicle. This keeps the face down the whole time and eliminates any possibility of shorting something out.
  3. Remove the faceplate from the Pioneer unit.
  4. Layout where the slot should be. You can use the SD logos on the plastic and the finger indent for the upper SD slot as reference points. @Datsun did a much better job locating the slot so use that as a reference. I was just guesstimating based off watching the Youtube video and pausing it.
  5. While holding a shop vac in one hand close to the working area, use a dremel carving bit and lightly start to work a slot into the face plastic. Don't go in too far or you'll hit the OEM SD card slot hardware. I actually knicked the card a number of times but it didn't effect it, not that it matters.  I just worked in shallow passes until I was all the way through.
  6. Once you're able to remove the old card, I used a utility knife to clean it up slightly but as you can see I didn't really go crazy trying to make it look pretty as it'll be hidden when the face is up.
  7. Insert your new card of choice.
  8. Reinstall your faceplate.
  9. Reconnect your vehicle battery cable.
  10. Once the unit loads, I did a factory reset just to ensure things were as clean as possible.

Everything has been running great since. I was having issues with Android Auto not loading. This was happening on the 1.01 firmware and 1.02 firmware. My new SD card is loaded with 1.02 from the img file posted earlier. Just wanted to share.

SD slot.jpg

Dremel_Rotary_Tool_Bit_9906_(EN)(4).jpg

Posted Jan 04, 2022 · 01:12 UTC#34
On 12/21/2021 at 1:20 PM, C4pt4inMatt said:

I did the same as @Datsun above however did so with the unit in the car. Overall process to cut the slot and swap cards was 15 minutes which included setting up the dremel and laying out the slot. Here's how I did it:

  1. Start unit and press eject then select SD.
  2. Once the face slides down, unplug the negative battery terminal to the vehicle. This keeps the face down the whole time and eliminates any possibility of shorting something out.
  3. Remove the faceplate from the Pioneer unit.
  4. Layout where the slot should be. You can use the SD logos on the plastic and the finger indent for the upper SD slot as reference points. @Datsun did a much better job locating the slot so use that as a reference. I was just guesstimating based off watching the Youtube video and pausing it.
  5. While holding a shop vac in one hand close to the working area, use a dremel carving bit and lightly start to work a slot into the face plastic. Don't go in too far or you'll hit the OEM SD card slot hardware. I actually knicked the card a number of times but it didn't effect it, not that it matters.  I just worked in shallow passes until I was all the way through.
  6. Once you're able to remove the old card, I used a utility knife to clean it up slightly but as you can see I didn't really go crazy trying to make it look pretty as it'll be hidden when the face is up.
  7. Insert your new card of choice.
  8. Reinstall your faceplate.
  9. Reconnect your vehicle battery cable.
  10. Once the unit loads, I did a factory reset just to ensure things were as clean as possible.

Everything has been running great since. I was having issues with Android Auto not loading. This was happening on the 1.01 firmware and 1.02 firmware. My new SD card is loaded with 1.02 from the img file posted earlier. Just wanted to share.

SD slot.jpg

Dremel_Rotary_Tool_Bit_9906_(EN)(4).jpg

how thick is the plastic ? i dont have a dremel , im planning to use a razor / box cutter to make a that rectangle shape.

is there a way to keep the slide down without remove the negative battery side ?

Posted Jan 04, 2022 · 15:15 UTC#35
On 12/21/2021 at 4:20 PM, C4pt4inMatt said:

I did the same as @Datsun above however did so with the unit in the car. Overall process to cut the slot and swap cards was 15 minutes which included setting up the dremel and laying out the slot. Here's how I did it:

  1. Start unit and press eject then select SD.
  2. Once the face slides down, unplug the negative battery terminal to the vehicle. This keeps the face down the whole time and eliminates any possibility of shorting something out.
  3. Remove the faceplate from the Pioneer unit.
  4. Layout where the slot should be. You can use the SD logos on the plastic and the finger indent for the upper SD slot as reference points. @Datsun did a much better job locating the slot so use that as a reference. I was just guesstimating based off watching the Youtube video and pausing it.
  5. While holding a shop vac in one hand close to the working area, use a dremel carving bit and lightly start to work a slot into the face plastic. Don't go in too far or you'll hit the OEM SD card slot hardware. I actually knicked the card a number of times but it didn't effect it, not that it matters.  I just worked in shallow passes until I was all the way through.
  6. Once you're able to remove the old card, I used a utility knife to clean it up slightly but as you can see I didn't really go crazy trying to make it look pretty as it'll be hidden when the face is up.
  7. Insert your new card of choice.
  8. Reinstall your faceplate.
  9. Reconnect your vehicle battery cable.
  10. Once the unit loads, I did a factory reset just to ensure things were as clean as possible.

Everything has been running great since. I was having issues with Android Auto not loading. This was happening on the 1.01 firmware and 1.02 firmware. My new SD card is loaded with 1.02 from the img file posted earlier. Just wanted to share.

SD slot.jpg

Dremel_Rotary_Tool_Bit_9906_(EN)(4).jpg

I think you did a fine job, especially not taking that plastic plate off the unit. I noticed when I did take that front plate off that there was a ridge/markings that help me make the slot in the correct spot. The entire time spend was maybe half an hour, and I did not disconnect the battery cables since I pulled the unit out of the dash. FYI, still haven’t gonna the new sd card from Russia. Seems to have been “lost in the mail”. Seller won’t send me another. Live and learn I guess. $65 lesson. 

Edited Jan 04, 2022 by Datsun
Posted Jan 04, 2022 · 22:53 UTC#36

Thank you for the help!

I was able to resurect my AVH-W4400NEX as well! I bough a SanDisk Industrial micro SDHC 16GB card and I used the IMG linked in the first post (credit to Jamesl75). It appears that the image is only 8GB but using a bigger card does not seem to hurt.

I had already removed the radio and I had forced the display mechanism open but if I was doing it all over again I would keep the radio installed in the car, put the display in the SD Card eject position, disconnect the battery and cut the slot in situ. No need to remove the radio. My slot did not end up looking pretty but it is functional. In hindsight, a carving dremel bit and shop-vac would be the way I would go. @C4pt4inMatt did it the right way.

Also, do not worry about damaging the SD card. As long as you can eject it at the end, it is fine.

Be careful not to cut too far down as to not damage the FFC Cable below the lower SD Card slot.

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Edited Jan 06, 2022 by quanttrom
Posted Jan 04, 2022 · 22:54 UTC#37
21 hours ago, Evanovan said:

is there a way to keep the slide down without remove the negative battery side ?

you could pull the fuse?

Posted Jan 04, 2022 · 23:04 UTC#38
7 hours ago, Datsun said:

 Live and learn I guess. $65 lesson. 

If you got it via eBay+PayPal, file a complaint and you'll get your money back. eBay/PayPal almost always side with the buyer with their Buyer Protection program.

Posted Jan 08, 2022 · 04:01 UTC#39
On 1/4/2022 at 6:04 PM, quanttrom said:

If you got it via eBay+PayPal, file a complaint and you'll get your money back. eBay/PayPal almost always side with the buyer with their Buyer Protection program.

I tried, I thought I had a good case. Never got the item, paid for it but never got it. This is what eBay said. 

The seller provided tracking information that shows the shipping carrier tried to deliver the item to your address. You can pick it up from the shipping carrier.

After reviewing all the details of this case, we determined that you won't receive a refund.


I even went to my local PO and filed a missing package, they came up with nothing, then I filed a claim on usps.com, they sent it back to the local branch. They said it was most likely sent back to the sender. Oh well, I just play more CD’s now since that part of the 4500 works fine. 

Posted Jan 08, 2022 · 09:46 UTC#40
On 7/20/2021 at 3:02 AM, arizonando said:

I am interested in this. Can you provide detail on the screws and the way you 'manipulated' the bezel?

I managed to take out internal sd card w/o even dismounting whole multimedia, take out screen then manualy slide sliders for cd  and other sd card unplug cable, then u have on sides screws each side has 1 screw on those sliders take it out dismount sliders ( black plastic behind screen where is cable for screen) then u have 2 another screws each side have one for 3rd plastic, behind is internal sd card, after u unscrew those screws u have to detach that plastic that is holding on metal boxing, i hope it helped my english is not that good.

Posted Jan 17, 2022 · 00:01 UTC#41

Here's what I did...

VIDEO

 

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Edited Jan 18, 2022 by Spyro
Posted Jan 17, 2022 · 20:09 UTC#42
20 hours ago, Spyro said:

Here's what I did...

VIDEO

Hi, is this video from the DVD player ?

Posted Jan 17, 2022 · 20:10 UTC#43

I can CONFIRM.  putting a new image ver 1.02 on a new card fixed my wireless auto connect issue. and since the new SD card is better than the crappy pioneer one, I feel the response time / loading  is much faster than before

Posted Jan 18, 2022 · 01:49 UTC#44
On 1/17/2022 at 12:10 PM, Evanovan said:

 

I can CONFIRM.  putting a new image ver 1.02 on a new card fixed my wireless auto connect issue. and since the new SD card is better than the crappy pioneer one, I feel the response time / loading  is much faster than before

 

My AA wireless doesn't work. I am certain that it's not my unit. Because I have two of these units. And I have swapped the cards so I am able to confirm that it's not my radio.

Thanks

Edited Jan 18, 2022 by Spyro
Posted Jan 18, 2022 · 02:07 UTC#45
On 1/17/2022 at 12:09 PM, Evanovan said:

Hi, is this video from the DVD player ?

No, not a DVD. You can store videos on the SD card or USB stick.

 

Edited Jan 18, 2022 by Spyro
Posted Jan 21, 2022 · 03:03 UTC#46
On 1/17/2022 at 8:49 PM, Spyro said:

 

My AA wireless doesn't work. I am certain that it's not my unit. Because I have two of these units. And I have swapped the cards so I am able to confirm that it's not my radio.

Thanks

Uninstall AA from the phone and delete the device from the radio. Install everything back. This happened to me when my 4400 ss crashed and after replacing the image. 

Posted Jan 27, 2022 · 04:58 UTC#47

Thanks for the response. I have already purchased a new SD card from eBay. It wasn't too bad, $30 shipped. And It worked perfect. But it's good to know that deleting the AA from the phone could be the the solution, for future.

Posted Feb 17, 2022 · 17:51 UTC#48

@HondaR

Thank you for posting this!  It worked perfectly for fixing my AVH-W4400NEX head unit.  The only thing I used that was different was the imaging software.  Win32 did not work for me, but on the same site I found one called dotNet Disk Imager which did the trick.  Again, thank you so much!!

Posted Feb 23, 2022 · 00:27 UTC#49

I have a avh-nex4600 and it’s stuck in boot loop  I can’t open the face to insert the SD card. HELP‼️

Posted Mar 02, 2022 · 07:31 UTC#50
On 2/22/2022 at 4:27 PM, Tarvous12 said:

I have a avh-nex4600 and it’s stuck in boot loop  I can’t open the face to insert the SD card. HELP‼️

 

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