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ok, for anybody who is interested... did a very basic test, and it seems that 2011 maps w/ 2010 poi dbs are possible. I simply replaced the following files/folders in 2011 NDATA (cnsd-210fm) with ones from 2010 NDATA (cnsd-110fm): in 00 (master folder): DTR_H.DB IDX\GENRE_H.DB IDX\POI.LDB INDEXDAT.DB in each state/territory folder (2 digit hex number), I replaced the IDX folder contents From an incremental test, it seems that the last step (replacing the IDX folder) is the one that did the trick... would welcome any real world tests.. unfortunately i cant do any driving te

you will probably need to review the install scripts and instructions for miopocket... looks like install script updates system paths to point to extended sets of libraries needed for many of the apps that miopocket includes... I think launcher.mscr would need to be setup similarly if the goal is to run those kinds of progs.. the limited set of system libraries included in the base winceimg of pioneer is very minimal..

no you want to look at CNSD-210FM in x-series forum oh wait. you said 930.. what, does this not have 2011 maps?

i picked up a used u310bt off of ebay for fairly cheap, so i just started using that one... regarding the one that i bricked, still wish i could figure out the bootloader on this guy to see how to kick it into upgrade mode. I strongly suspect that there is some magic file or naming convention that it would boot from.... I cant seem to figure out how to extract the bootloader short of jtag.. ps. i have tried to update the 1st post with all of the latest info .... let me know if something isnt right

it might be able to be used as a base menu system, but the overlays from u310bt/f310bt are done quite differently from f500/700/900bt which dont use same menu system/nav.. I have f700bt in my car which uses MainMenu.exe i think and a customized version of igo.. There are some overlays, but the stuff like AV selection/ipod menus are done from separate screens, not really overlays over the nav...

david, f930bt = x930bt... look at x-series forum... 2011 maps (pioneer navi, not igo) is in CNSD-210FM

can you confirm if it's only in 2d or 3d mode, or always when map is drawing? (i think you can use demo route or flyover to simulate map drawing without having to drive around;) im also trying to figure out the magic sys.txt settings to get primo 1.2 working... I suspect the current issues (overlays not popping up with map redrawing) with igo can be solved by the right sys.txt settings

ok found and fixed the bugs in activesync and igolauncher... still have the reboot after resume with non stock apps... will have to look at that later... I wanted you to try this (igolauncher), so that igo is run as a direct child process from hmimanager.exe.. maybe this has something to do with window interaction... cant you change radio presets with left/right or up/down press D-pad ?

did you change the path to your igo at the top of IGOLauncher.mscr? default is: # set your IGO exe here: igoExec = "\Storage Card\IGO8\IGO8.EXE" as far as active sync goes... are you on windows 7? I dont think it shows up as a drive letter like usb mass storage mode... It should show up mobile devices though and be browsable... i think you should get some special tones when it connects via activesync ... we'll I'll just have to wait till I get my other u310bt to play with... doh!

thanks for the feed back.. there was definately a bug in the igolauncher - fixed.. also added one more reg entry that i missed for active sync that may have prevented it from working.. here is alpha2... ---- it's some kind of design of the stock pioneer software to "reboot" to run in app mode and the reboot again into regular stock navi after exiting the app. from what i understand, even the stock apps do it, although they dont work with the cnsd-130fm version that we have to work with.. I hear they work fine on f320bt ... go figure.. activesync doesnt do anything but apply regist

ok guys.. havent tested this... but just working on putting together an extended apps set 1. launcher.. no changes here.. still customizable 2. activesync... should change some reg settings and reboot back into stock navi... now activesync should be active til next hard reset (can make another app to return to mass storage mode) 3. tools - launches cecmd (total commander) and has a few other utilities in the same folder... 4. igolauncher... this is a different approach from launcher to getting igo started.. please see readme.txt. basically: - remaps comport, copies .enc and .pwd files

the launcher.mscr workaround wont fix the igo reset on resume, but it should fix the issue where stock nav gps is broken after reboot.... I dont really understand if you are saying that you had both settings active at one time or not... I was suggesting trying both together, if you havent already...

ok so for the com port issue.. i suspect that when the unit goes to suspend (car turned off), on resume somehow the unit is not liking the situation (whether it be igo or pioneer hmimanager...) so the igo is getting terminated ungracefully before the second command in launcher.mscr to restore comport is getting triggered. since the registry changes require a reboot, i suspect we can do a workaround like this: in launcher.mscr, change: RunWait("\Storage Card\iGO8\iGO8.exe") Call("restoreComPort") to Call("restoreComPort") RunWait("\Storage Card\iGO8\iGO8.exe") This way,

regarding bluetooth.. i dont really think it's possible. they use a parrot chip and drivers... I dont think there is any serial capability.. would be worth looking into the interfaces exposed by the parrot dll tho... IGO usually conects to TMC adapters serially via comports from what i know... (I dont have any RDS-TMC gear..) But i was looking at schematics for us model u310bt, and it appears to be wired for extra serial port, but not being used... so perhaps there is some sort of rs-232 serial port tmc adapter available? Also, noticing that the ipod usb cable exposed doesnt seem to be g

rollf, http://elektrotanya.com/pioneer_avic-x930bt_avic-9310bt_avic-f930bt_sm.pdf/download.html x930bt = x9310bt = f930bt z130bt = f30bt

ok interesting... yes, running igo via the app mode is the only way i know of getting the needed overlays/button controls due to the extensive tie-in for this functionality into the stock navi and apps that connect to hmimanager... Perhaps the gps comport being remapped or the apps not responding to some kind of probe after resume is contributing... may need to disassemble one of the basic stock apps to see what kind of parent process interaction is happening...

hrmm.. there are some other flags which look interesting on some device models for [loading] section which talk about disabling foreground focus, etc... however, these may just be for the splash screen, but i suspect they could have something to do with the way the window layers are setup, since igo can run on other head-unit multi-purpose nav/radio/dvd systems... here is another one which could give us some extra debugging data... [debug] log_1="\SD Card\igo8_log\_debug.log::5" may want to pastebin this, as im guessing it could get big, but might have some useful data for an

f930bt is similar to x930bt... look over in X-series forums...

sorry but the F designation is kind of confusing here... this forum is mainly for older F series, 500/700/900... f10bt, f20bt are really similar to Z series, z110bt, z120bt... so have a look in those forums

f320bt is similar to f310bt/u310bt, which are not really similalr to f-series (like 500/700/900). check the u310bt forum. I have figured out ways to run recent maps/poi from sd card, and also how to run custom apps (gps, etc)...

regarding igo8, it is extensively hackable, so we should be able to iron out the kinks.. (and I know that we should find a way to get primo to run eventually too...) im ordering a used u310bt off of ebay to play with... w.r.t. the overlays issue... for the time being im wondering if anybody can test a few igo8 sys.txt settings out... this one looks interesting: try one or both of these: [debug] render_without_focus=1 [rawdisplay] driver="GDI" also, if that doesnt seem to do anything interesting.. the data gathered from these may also be helpful:

f930bt? i think this is euro version of x930bt... Have a look in the X-series section of the forum...

follow this procedure: http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/27807-fx31-complete-firmware-image/ there is a good chance this will "recover" this unit

it worked fine for me when connected to the unit. I have always had my parking brake wire bypassed (grounded), so that sounds like what it could be.

I have an f700bt and the startup time (45-60 secs) is annoying... especially if you just turn off the car for 5-10 mins. I also have an u310bt, which they seemed to have solved this problem by using a separate PNA faceplace (much like other portable gps devices) which has a battery in it and can go into lower power standby mode. Thanks to this thread I have been reading through the PAC TR-7 manual, and for 15 bucks shipped on ebay, i dont think you can beat the various functionality of the thing. Looks like i want to use mode #12 - "3 programmable timer outputs on constant trigger" Howe