petrocelly Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Hi, I just did update for my Avic-N2 from 50MTP to 70MTP(piratebay copy) everythings is working fine, even the soft is a bit smoother, but what really get me that I've got no POI or even the SEARCH button is Grey, I just cannot make any searches what so ever, is there something that I'm missing or the soft could be damaged ? Thanx for your help Merry Xmas to all of ya Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Do you have your parking brake on? Or is your unit bypassed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petrocelly Posted December 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Do you have your parking brake on? Or is your unit bypassed? parking brake is on, still does not work, i did not bypass or other modify the unit, its kinda strange, with older soft 50 it works with no problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Hmmm. I would guess bad burn then, but not positive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wastedtime2525 Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hmmm. I would guess bad burn then, but not positive yea i had that problem too. The POI search wouldn't work in my home state, i would type in a search and it would just take me back to the map without doing anything. But when i traveled to a different region the searches worked fine. I would try reburning the disks one speed slower than the burner is rated (i.e. if you have an 8x burner, try burning at 4x) oh yea i have an N1 upgraded to an N3 with the chip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobson Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I have an AVIC N3 and did the same thing. It wouldn't let me search no matter what condition the car was in (parking brake, stopped, etc). Everything else worked (radio, ipod). I thought it might have been a bad burn, but I tried it again with two new higher quality (ie more expensive) dl dvds and produced the same results. So, I ended up flashing it back to the original 60m disk. Everything works as it did before. If it helps, I bypassed using the switch on the brain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petrocelly Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 thats exactly my problem, I was not able to do a search whats so ever, everything else worked fine, just the search button was always gray, I still wonder why. I had to swich back to my original DVD 50, now I'm experiencing some problems like Calculation is not possible etc, i have to set 3 - 4 times the same destination to get it work, and its a original DVD. I did reset everyhting, but now I just dont get it why I'm experiencing such problems with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobson Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 When I tried to insert my original 60m disk back in, it said it was not a valid dvd. so then I had to flash the entire unit. I used instructions given in the forums. http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =test+back Other than resetting the presets and settings, it now works as it did before the 'upgrade'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petrocelly Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 When I tried to insert my original 60m disk back in, it said it was not a valid dvd. so then I had to flash the entire unit. I used instructions given in the forums. http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =test+back Other than resetting the presets and settings, it now works as it did before the 'upgrade'. I did that too, everything was erased then I inserted the original CD, but now I'm experiencing those strange dificulties Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calz32 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I want to bump up this topic. I am having the same trouble with my N3. At first, the POI and Phone Search functions were gray. Then, I was not able to calculate any routes. Then, I tried using the 05 discs (I have the 06 discs), then it said Inappropriate Disc. Now, even when I use the 06 disc again it says "In appropriate disc" only the radio works, navigation screen does not even come when I press the buttons on the unit. Will using the 07 discs fix this do you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petrocelly Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I want to bump up this topic. I am having the same trouble with my N3. At first, the POI and Phone Search functions were gray. Then, I was not able to calculate any routes. Then, I tried using the 05 discs (I have the 06 discs), then it said Inappropriate Disc. Now, even when I use the 06 disc again it says "In appropriate disc" only the radio works, navigation screen does not even come when I press the buttons on the unit. Will using the 07 discs fix this do you think? you have to do factory reset of the unit, and go into the bios of the N3 to be able to downgrade the software, I did that for my N2 it worked well, with a minor dificulties, that I never experienced before. The idea is to replace the software of the system to the older one, u may use the your 06 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CLOUSEAU Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I've wasted several DVD's trying to make a disk from this torrent and this is what I had to do to finally get the seach and POI's working. 1. Save the torrent file in a folder only one level from your root drive (C:\) ie - C:\Software\PIONEER_CNDV_70MTP_WEST 2. Extract file in the same folder using WinRaR only 3. Burn your Dual Layer DVD using the latest update of Alcohol 120% at the slowest speed possible. Also the Verbatim DVD+R DL seems to be the only disk I can get the burn to work correctly on as well. I have no idea why, but I am thinking for some reason it's the only brand the head unit is able to read both layers correctly from. I've checked the other brand's of dual layer disk I've used and they were all perfectly intact, however they only half ass work in the head unit as if the second layer is not there. Maybe it's the Verbatim's cool purple disk color? I got no idea... Anyways so my conclusion is that it either it's the laser in the N series head unit that's not reading the disk, or the DVD decoding hardware/software not reading the other brands of burnt disk, I'm not 100% sure. The only thing I am 100% sure of, is that Pioneer would rather you spend the $250.00 for the upgrade disk from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calz32 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I want to bump up this topic. I am having the same trouble with my N3. At first, the POI and Phone Search functions were gray. Then, I was not able to calculate any routes. Then, I tried using the 05 discs (I have the 06 discs), then it said Inappropriate Disc. Now, even when I use the 06 disc again it says "In appropriate disc" only the radio works, navigation screen does not even come when I press the buttons on the unit. Will using the 07 discs fix this do you think? you have to do factory reset of the unit, and go into the bios of the N3 to be able to downgrade the software, I did that for my N2 it worked well, with a minor dificulties, that I never experienced before. The idea is to replace the software of the system to the older one, u may use the your 06 Thanks very much for the response. I'm going to do a search of "Factory Reset N3". Do you know if the process for the N3 is the same as the N2? the reason I ask is because i was reading some instructions for the N2 and the first step was to hold the "reset" and "eject" button together. I dont have the unit in front of me, but I dont remember there being an accessible "reset" button along with the "eject" button. nevertheless, youve pointed me on the right track and Im going to keep going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
petrocelly Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I want to bump up this topic. I am having the same trouble with my N3. At first, the POI and Phone Search functions were gray. Then, I was not able to calculate any routes. Then, I tried using the 05 discs (I have the 06 discs), then it said Inappropriate Disc. Now, even when I use the 06 disc again it says "In appropriate disc" only the radio works, navigation screen does not even come when I press the buttons on the unit. Will using the 07 discs fix this do you think? you have to do factory reset of the unit, and go into the bios of the N3 to be able to downgrade the software, I did that for my N2 it worked well, with a minor dificulties, that I never experienced before. The idea is to replace the software of the system to the older one, u may use the your 06 Thanks very much for the response. I'm going to do a search of "Factory Reset N3". Do you know if the process for the N3 is the same as the N2? the reason I ask is because i was reading some instructions for the N2 and the first step was to hold the "reset" and "eject" button together. I dont have the unit in front of me, but I dont remember there being an accessible "reset" button along with the "eject" button. nevertheless, youve pointed me on the right track and Im going to keep going. for the first time i had also hard time to find some of the buttons, the reset should be a small button on front of head unit that u can only press with a tip of pen or something like that, its not a regular button, the rest as I remember was the enter button witch is the pressing the NAV joystick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calz32 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey, I ran through the "factory reset" option and everything seemed to work ok. I decided to install the 05 software just to be safe for now. I restarted the system and everything *seemed* to work ok. When I hit the NAVI buttons, it would say "InAppropriate Disc" and then when I went back to the radio screen and hit "source off" I got a screen saying there was an error with the unit and I should turn the power on and off. I followed all the instructions to a T but what I'm going to do is try loading the 06 software on there, maybe that will help. Before i did the "hard reset" everything bt navi was working, IE, it was playing CDs and playing DVDs perfectly. haha, right now i have a REALLY expensive cd player in the car, haha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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