capper Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I thought with being a CE device and all the hacking I'd join the club. My first impressions though, not so good. I could not stand the lag and then updated to 2.0. I still think it lags too much (have to press a button a couple times). I also can not stand the button beep! I do like the graphics over the Kenwood which seems to be the downside and why nobody wants the Kenwood. But I prefer functionality first. The knob is much better on the Kenwood with the Pioneer not sticking out far enough. Boot up time though slower I have no issues with. I would just like to ask, what does work good on this unit? Please help. I'm not here to bash, just wondering if I'm missing something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terron Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 You're not missing anything; the unit still lacks the finesse that the Kenwood units have. There are some small changes you can make that will benefit the overall speed of the unit. Look into the HACKS forum for deleteing the keybeeps and increasing the system RAM available.. both will speed the unit up but either is a silver bullet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckelly33 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 So which unit would you recommend, the Pioneer of the Kenwood? I'm just about to buy one or the other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CamelTowing Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you have any desire to do ipod and phone by voice? If you do, choose the Pioneer. If not, choose the kenwood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wonderdiva Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you have any desire to do ipod and phone by voice? If you do, choose the Pioneer. If not, choose the kenwood x2 After having the ability to voice dial and play my iPod by simply speaking, it would be hard to go back. Keep in mind I use my iPod as my primary music source in the car and have 7k+ songs, so it makes it VERY convenient for me. Is the unit perfect? By ALL means no... is it functional to the point I can live with it and enjoy using it? Yes. Had you asked me before the 2.0 update you may have gotten a much different answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capper Posted November 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 That was one of the things I liked about the Pioneers was the "Sync" like features. Seems to be a mixed bag on how well it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wonderdiva Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 That was one of the things I liked about the Pioneers was the "Sync" like features. Seems to be a mixed bag on how well it works. Mine works almost flawlessly... *knock on wood* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terron Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 That was one of the things I liked about the Pioneers was the "Sync" like features. Seems to be a mixed bag on how well it works. Mine works almost flawlessly... *knock on wood* I feel the same, if only the Parrot would iron out their buggy ass bluetooth and Pioneer would make some of those drive-you-crazy quirks their unit has a load of Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckelly33 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you have any desire to do ipod and phone by voice? If you do, choose the Pioneer. If not, choose the kenwood Phone voice dialing, definately. I'm upgrading from an AVIC-D2 for that reason pretty much. The Kenwood has a BT module that works. I'm primarily interested in the Kenwood solely for the Garmin software, otherwise I'd go with Pioneer. Any thoughts on this?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wonderdiva Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Do you have any desire to do ipod and phone by voice? If you do, choose the Pioneer. If not, choose the kenwood Phone voice dialing, definately. I'm upgrading from an AVIC-D2 for that reason pretty much. The Kenwood has a BT module that works. I'm primarily interested in the Kenwood solely for the Garmin software, otherwise I'd go with Pioneer. Any thoughts on this?? I honestly prefer Garmin's nav software but I use the nav portion so little to get where I am going that I could not base my purchase on that... iGo is getting me where I need to go and since changing up the nav screen to look clean and organized, I am happy with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckelly33 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I honestly prefer Garmin's nav software but I use the nav portion so little to get where I am going that I could not base my purchase on that... iGo is getting me where I need to go and since changing up the nav screen to look clean and organized, I am happy with it. The whole 2d/North up is a turnoff and I'm not sure how well the 3d will work for me (I'm so used to the 'standard' 2d view). While I LOVED my AVIC, I always missed Garmin quality when it came time to travel. It just seems there are sooo many complaints on this unit, its a bit discouraging. I suppose if I had any idea where the Kenwood forums are I'd find complaints there too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckelly33 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 That was one of the things I liked about the Pioneers was the "Sync" like features. Seems to be a mixed bag on how well it works. By mixed bag do you mean sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't OR do you mean for some people it works, for others it doesnt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 FYI, the Kenwood bluetooth is Parrot also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ckelly33 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Does the 90BT do split screens at turns like my AVIC-D2? (The left splt shows a close up of the turn/intersection) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CamelTowing Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Just use 3D mode and use the crosshairs to tilt your viewing angle to almost straight down. Looks almost exactly like 2D and will give you the north heading you are looking for The whole 2d/North up is a turnoff and I'm not sure how well the 3d will work for me (I'm so used to the 'standard' 2d view). While I LOVED my AVIC, I always missed Garmin quality when it came time to travel. It just seems there are sooo many complaints on this unit, its a bit discouraging. I suppose if I had any idea where the Kenwood forums are I'd find complaints there too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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