tjdehya Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Did you guys see the Cnet video?http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_Avic_Z2 ... ml?tag=vid Looks like the ipod is no faster than the Z1. Judging from that demo the Z2 appears to only be a software update and nothing else. Same HDD, same buttons, same defects and nothing fixed. Yeaaaaa Gooooo Pioneeeeeeer way to fix all the things that suck about the Z1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 If you follow Pioneers history at all, you would know that they only make changes to their Nav systems every two generations. The D1 didn't improve drastically until the D3. The N1 didn't improve until the ipod/XM fix in the N3. Just how they are...First a software update, then the fixes the following year Judging from that demo the Z2 appears to only be a software update and nothing else. Same HDD, same buttons, same defects and nothing fixed. Yeaaaaa Gooooo Pioneeeeeeer way to fix all the things that suck about the Z1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikek Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Why can't Pioneer put a bigger hard drive in the thing? 10GB fills up way to quickly. I'd buy a new 50GB Z2 hard drive and pop it in my Z1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
palacios Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Why can't Pioneer put a bigger hard drive in the thing? 10GB fills up way to quickly. I'd buy a new 50GB Z2 hard drive and pop it in my Z1. Ha, that's weird, I still have 90% free space and I've had this thing since May. You must have a lot of CDs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Because they would have to raise the price Why can't Pioneer put a bigger hard drive in the thing? 10GB fills up way to quickly. I'd buy a new 50GB Z2 hard drive and pop it in my Z1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillithz Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 probably will be some used z1 owners selling to buy the z2 i would guess, doesnt sound worth it, but the public can be funny that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikek Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 The new POI icons are nice (you actually see a McDonalds logo on the map as it comes into proximity, for example. Hey I dont get a McDonald's logo. I just get a generic hamburger indicating fast food restaurant. I think I just get Subway and Arby's. I did see that McDonalds logo on the cnet review. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikek Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ha, that's weird, I still have 90% free space and I've had this thing since May. You must have a lot of CDs! Not that many. Just about 500. I know people with thousands of the damn things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 That depends a lot on the number of songs per disc and the length of the songs. If you have 1 cd with 10 songs that are 7 minutes long that'll take up a lot more space than a cd with 15 songs that are 3 minutes long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felix Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 wait a minute, i bought mine in November 2006 and i only got mine for 1400.00, i didn't know it was that high...... It used to be. Yah, some of us even pre-ordered it for that price But as whtcrxghst said, everything keeps getting cheaper. Just the law of the land. I remember paying $3000 for my 286 PC. No one would pay that anymore I bet you bought the same shitty Radio Shack 286 I did... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
edrock200 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Pioneer is releasing a new ipod cable that works with the D3 so I assume it works with 5900 as well. It transfers video and it is supposed to be "full speed" similar to the alpine cable. The Z2 is only a software update from the Z1 so it will not use this cable, it will use the CDIB100 or 100II Anybody notice the different iPod layout on the 5900? They use a picture similar to the iPod click wheel. If that works for the Z2 that's great and all, but considering that Pioneer is still saying iPod connection is through the CD-IB100II I'm assuming it's still going to be slow as hell..? Yea and the only thing they could've possibly done to an existing "learning" feature is improve it. Seeing as the IPBus appears to be a USB type interface I don't see why a new iPod adapter + software upgrade can't integrate video and faster iPod navi. Same goes for MP3 on DVD. Unfortunately it might just come down to the bottom line. If the firmware on this thing were hackable this thing has loads of potential... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DennisOS2 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Because they would have to raise the price Why can't Pioneer put a bigger hard drive in the thing? 10GB fills up way to quickly. I'd buy a new 50GB Z2 hard drive and pop it in my Z1. Just bought a 320gig Seagate SATA for $99. That's my retail cost. To put an 80gig drive in, they'd have to raise the price ten whole dollars!! But as someone else said ......... I've put 50 CDs in already and haven't dented the space on the drive. The average users won't ever fill the existing drive. Dennis -==- Philly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DennisOS2 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 The new POI icons are nice (you actually see a McDonalds logo on the map as it comes into proximity, for example. Hey I dont get a McDonald's logo. I just get a generic hamburger indicating fast food restaurant. I think I just get Subway and Arby's. I did see that McDonalds logo on the cnet review. Hmmmmm ....... on mine, every time I pass a fast food restaurant I get an icon that looks like the international trans-fat logo Dennis -==- Philly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Thats not a laptop size drive is it? Thought they were more expensive than that Just bought a 320gig Seagate SATA for $99. That's my retail cost. To put an 80gig drive in, they'd have to raise the price ten whole dollars!! But as someone else said ......... I've put 50 CDs in already and haven't dented the space on the drive. The average users won't ever fill the existing drive. Dennis -==- Philly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DennisOS2 Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Thats not a laptop size drive is it? Thought they were more expensive than that Just bought a 320gig Seagate SATA for $99. That's my retail cost. To put an 80gig drive in, they'd have to raise the price ten whole dollars!! But as someone else said ......... I've put 50 CDs in already and haven't dented the space on the drive. The average users won't ever fill the existing drive. Dennis -==- Philly No, it is a desktop drive ........ so a little less expensive ........ but still retail and about three times the size that would be reasonable. OK ..... they'd have to bump it $20. Dennis -==- Philly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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