hornet28610 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm new here and I definitely have been looking through the forums, because I just bought a used F90BT and have upgraded to the modded 3.0 firmware and have my iPhone synced perfectly with it.... So I know a decent amount about this technology stuff. I have an iPod Classic 120GB and it will not play with the F90BT! When I plug the iPod into the F90BT, it says "Connecting" on my iPod for about 3 seconds, then the Pioneer logo comes up and shows the song title for about 2 seconds and then my iPod goes back to the main menu. The only way that I can get it to work (and by work I mean play one complete song and when it trys to load the next song, it disconnects and my iPod shows the main menu again), I have to play a song on the iPod manually and then when it starts playing, I connect the pioneer cable into it and then the iPod pictures shows on my F90BT's screen and then it works. But like I said for one song only. I have been searching the forums as well as online and cannot seem to see anyone listing anything remotely to what I have going on. The iPod is the 120GB and running firmware 2.0.1. I wanted to downgrade it to 1.1.1 (which Pioneer supports), but reading more into it, the only iPod Classics that can be downgraded to that firmware is the 80GB and the 160GB that were manufactured in 2007. The only thing that I can guess is that the pioneer cable that comes with the F90BT is lacking the Authentication Chip... Would I have to purchase Apple's composite cable to fix that (Does it contain the chip?) or is that not even the problem? Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I also wanted to say that if the f90bt changes songs by itself, the iPod disconnects. If I hit next on the f90bt, it will change the song without any problem. Also to note, my friend has an Avic D3 and I'm about 95% sure it works with his unit without any problem. I do believe I have a genuine iPod pioneer cable... I can tell by how the iPod connector part is molded. (It's more of a rounded rectangle with the connector cover strapped to the cable.) I would love to hear someone's advice on this. Thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 There is no way to tell if you have a genuine cable and it is likely you do not or the cable is defective. Get the Apple Composite AV cable and see what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tail24 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah always best to use apple gear unfortunately. Also do you synch to iPod via iTunes or a 3rd party app? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Well just got out to my car this morning with a can of compressed air and blew out the iPods connector and the pioneers cable connector (both USB and iPod)... IT WORKS! I'm still really cautious about it though. I had the iPod connected before I put my car's ignition switch into accessory. (I did that three times.) I then cranked the car twice, with it still connecting and staying connected. I then disconnected the iPod and started the car and once the system was fully booted, I connected the iPod (without any song playing) and it connected and started playing. Ughhhh!!!! I absolutely hate it when a problem is so simple to fix and it takes forever to realize that! Like I said though I'm still worried about it, but I'll definitely post an update over the next few days to let anyone that's curious know how it's been going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thanks for the responses, the only other plausible reason (and seems more plausible) is that there may be a short in the cable, but I'll see how it goes over the next few days and then post a reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Alright. Time for a status update. It appears that I thought it was a short which some of it might be, but I also got home and holding the iPod in my hand and watching a movie, the movie plays for about 5 minutes and then the iPod disconnects. I wonder if it's a software or hardware issue. Thanks again for any help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tail24 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 id order a cable from amazon... can always return it if the problem isnt solved Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Just go to Best Buy and buy the cable I mentioned. And stay away from Amazon and eBay. You will often get knock offs that will continue to cause problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Here is the Apple Composite AV Cable from Best Buy. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Apple+-+Composite+A/V+Cable/2116077.p?skuId=2116077&id=1218577565071 Does this appear to be correct? I see where is says works with "select" iPod and iPod classic models... Kind of makes me worry. Does anyone else have the 120gb working without problems? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 That is the cable and it will work with your iPod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1loudls Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 +1 on the cable. i would also do a restore on the ipod just to make sure that it is not a software issue on the ios device. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Okay. I always appreciate knowledgeable help on forums. After getting the unit just a few weeks ago, I did do a full restore of the 2.0.1 firmware and replaced everything on the ipod, with no luck. I'm going to order this Apple cable and look forward to the results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Good luck and let us know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hornet28610 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The official Apple cable came in from Best Buy (the one in the link, higher up in the thread) and it doesn't work. A USB drive works just fine everytime I connect it, but the iPod will show charging, then like it's connected to the computer charging, then it shows the Pioneer logo, then disconnects. This is the exact same problem that was happening before. I have no idea what to do now. UPDATE: I checked the cable with my iPhone 4S and it connects every single time! Obviously, it keeps reseting my unit, which is normal from what I read on the forums, but it works. So, apparently it works with everything except my iPod Classic 120gb! Arghhh!!! This is driving me crazy! I don't want to, but if I have to, I think I'll go by my local pawn shop and try to trade the 120gb for an original 80gb or 160gb classic running the "Pioneer Approved" 1.1.1 firmware. Any ideas or suggestions would definitely be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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