901SoundsofMemphis Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 what a forum.....you guys figure out solutions to a problem in no time. Jason, why don't you post a need to figure out the Israel/Arab situation.... this forum could probably prevent WWIII Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 thats the way the original n1 was being bypassed, not practical but it worked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agro Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 This sounds like it is completely NOT an option for a bypass. I will not lose NAV. The whole point of the bypass is so that you have NAV while driving. I am not going to unplug/replug stuff either. Maybe I misread it...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Give it time, there is always an easier way. That way has been around for years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agro Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Give it time, there is always an easier way. That way has been around for years Yeah I'm a patient man. I'll wait. BTW, you get that new BT thing installed yet? I cant wait to hear!!! j/k ahah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillithz Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 lol, thats not a bypass, thats ghetto. though it may work partially, it doesnt work completely so it falls short of beign a full bypass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 We didn't need 3 posted in all 3 forums with the same thing. I took the liberty of deleting the duplicates and left this one with the conversation. And I agree with tillithz, this is pretty bad. And they had things like this with the Z1. These switch based bypasses which "disconnect the GPS" don't work well or for very long. Eventually the Z1 would calibrate itself and if the vehicle was a rough riding SUV, the internal gyro's would sense movement. For the first 30 - 100 miles of the Z1's life the internal gyro's would not contribute to the overall movement of the vehicle. So the Z1 took the movement info from the GPS antenna. When you keep flipping that switch I think it resets the calibration of the internal gyros. The Z1 would feel the motion and watch the antenna and try to correlate the 2. People who kept flipping the switch a lot would be fine for a while. Then would go on a trip and leave the antenna connected and it would no longer work. Over the last year with www.sminntech.com I got sooooo many emails from people who's installers did stuff like this on their Z1's and then months later were bugging me to help them get it right. I know all this is Z1 info and the Z2 is different, but it seems like they changed how the bypass is done... maybe making it harder to bypass. I would be surprised if they made this method of getting around the bypass easier to do (make this "hack" work on the Z2 but not on the Z1). The biggest problem with something like this is people who might have been trying things might stop trying if there seems like there is something that might work. 901SoundsofMemphis, I do appreciate you sharing what you found. We all do. But this is not the solution. Look back at pretty much all the Avic's and there was something "simple" which needed to be found which just made it work all the time with no switches. Did you try resistors and measuring voltages like I talked about in my other post? Changing voltages and resistances? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MisFit Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 if your spelling is any indication of your work, then i'll pass on the bypass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 if your spelling is any indication of your work, then i'll pass on the bypass Be nice! They are trying to help. And we should be grateful of anything people post when they are trying to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MisFit Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 i said it with a smile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 i said it with a smile I know, that's why I "yelled" at you with a smile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
901SoundsofMemphis Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 If u guys have other way to bypass the unit then post it. This is a temp bypass till we find an easier way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
901SoundsofMemphis Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 what a forum.....you guys figure out solutions to a problem in no time. Jason, why don't you post a need to figure out the Israel/Arab situation.... this forum could probably prevent WWIII Quote Link to post Share on other sites
901SoundsofMemphis Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 You're maybe right. we only had them for a week. we still need more time if there is a easier way. We didn't need 3 posted in all 3 forums with the same thing. I took the liberty of deleting the duplicates and left this one with the conversation. And I agree with tillithz, this is pretty bad. And they had things like this with the Z1. These switch based bypasses which "disconnect the GPS" don't work well or for very long. Eventually the Z1 would calibrate itself and if the vehicle was a rough riding SUV, the internal gyro's would sense movement. For the first 30 - 100 miles of the Z1's life the internal gyro's would not contribute to the overall movement of the vehicle. So the Z1 took the movement info from the GPS antenna. When you keep flipping that switch I think it resets the calibration of the internal gyros. The Z1 would feel the motion and watch the antenna and try to correlate the 2. People who kept flipping the switch a lot would be fine for a while. Then would go on a trip and leave the antenna connected and it would no longer work. Over the last year with www.sminntech.com I got sooooo many emails from people who's installers did stuff like this on their Z1's and then months later were bugging me to help them get it right. I know all this is Z1 info and the Z2 is different, but it seems like they changed how the bypass is done... maybe making it harder to bypass. I would be surprised if they made this method of getting around the bypass easier to do (make this "hack" work on the Z2 but not on the Z1). The biggest problem with something like this is people who might have been trying things might stop trying if there seems like there is something that might work. 901SoundsofMemphis, I do appreciate you sharing what you found. We all do. But this is not the solution. Look back at pretty much all the Avic's and there was something "simple" which needed to be found which just made it work all the time with no switches. Did you try resistors and measuring voltages like I talked about in my other post? Changing voltages and resistances? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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