Is there going to be a Premier version of these new lines?

Is there going to be a Premier version of these new lines?

Nothing in the press material.

So, the new Z series doesn't have a hard drive? That's kinda a step backwards...

But, I guess the media slot kinda makes up for it...

You do realize the MSRP on the 90BT is $1200 right? Just because they list a price doesn't mean people can't whore it out on the web for way cheaper. The price of the 910 will drop like a rock too after the initial buzz is over

I hate to be cynical, but it seems like the new series isn't worth the extra money over the current F series. If you can get an F90BT for $600 new (Amazon), is the X910BT really worth $1,100? It seems like the improvements are mostly software based and you can get the new software for $70...?

 

Edit: Also, if I read the press release correctly, the F90BT comes with the iPod adapter but the X910BT doesn't...?

Any chances of getting pics of the new Z's iPod/AV interface in action?

Is the x910bt the same as the f910bt on the European site?

They look the same, but i'm wondering why they named it different.

Is the x910bt the same as the f910bt on the European site?

They look the same, but i'm wondering why they named it different.

I would assume they are largely the same, just as the US F900 is almost the same as the European f900.

However, with the F500/F700/F900 it was always confusing that the US units and European units were named the same, whilst they differed in the installed maps and FM radio tuner....

Probably to cause less confusion, they've now also named the new series differently ?

(like US Z110, Europe F10. With the Z-series, there was already a different name of course)

Jason,

When you say the 70$ update will make the F series = to the X series does that also mean equal in touch speed? You said the X is a lot better in touch response so if the update makes F up to X level will that mean that the response will be equal also?

Also,

does anyone know if the new Z will be able to do all the functions that the F90 can?

I remeber the Z3 couldn't play MP3s or DIVX from a Data DVD while F90 could.

Also it needed an adaptor for mp3 players while the f90 has the jack.

Any clue if the new Z will have these?

If we can't get into Test Mode with the 3.0 update, you can definitely count me out for the buying of the software. Being able to turn off key beeps, for example, is a MUST.

Jason,

 

When you say the 70$ update will make the F series = to the X series does that also mean equal in touch speed? You said the X is a lot better in touch response so if the update makes F up to X level will that mean that the response will be equal also?

 

Also,

 

does anyone know if the new Z will be able to do all the functions that the F90 can?

I remeber the Z3 couldn't play MP3s or DIVX from a Data DVD while F90 could.

Also it needed an adaptor for mp3 players while the f90 has the jack.

Any clue if the new Z will have these?

Looking at the specs of the F10 http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/press/news/navgate_avicf10bt.html, a lot more:

With audio, there’s no compromise: sound is comparable to the best dedicated in-car entertainment systems. Alongside high-end components, the unit integrates our Sound Retriever, which constantly adjusts frequency response and sound pressure of compressed music, especially in the high and low frequency ranges, to put the harmonics lost during compression back into your music.

So whatever format you use, audio is revitalised and depth returned, while a 7-band equalizer enables the tuning of your audio to your car’s unique acoustic environment.

The impressive capabilities reproduce exquisite sound to give you the confidence to unleash the full might of our celebrated MOSFET 50 W x 4 amplifier set-up.

But if you prefer more muscle, three hi-voltage RCA outs are on tap to connect additional amplifiers, speakers and subwoofers. With serious audio comes serious connectivity. You can play your tunes in virtually any format (MP3, WMA, WAV, AAC) from USB, SD or CD and DVD – and enjoy video from these sources too using Windows Media and MPEG-4 content, while DivX video can be watched from CD and DVD.

You can also take direct control of your iPod or iPhone from the touch screen and watch video from the device. Multitasking is another attribute of the NavGate AVIC-F10BT: as the front seat passengers listen to music from one source, rear-seat passengers can watch a movie from DVD, iPod-Video or Personal Media Player on the optional rear screens. The system can also playback music while managing navigation

If we can't get into Test Mode with the 3.0 update, you can definitely count me out for the buying of the software. Being able to turn off key beeps, for example, is a MUST.

Key Beeps can be turned completly off now, and there is a new beep sound so it's not so annoying.

The rumor is testmode will no longer work with 3.0, but we'll see.

I'm sure we can find a way to hack the new software....

I'm excited about the hackability of the new Z series... we stand to really unlock all the cool stuff we've wanted to do so far but haven't been able to figure out.

So, the new Z series doesn't have a hard drive? That's kinda a step backwards... But, I guess the media slot kinda makes up for it...

This is what I thought until I read this on the pdf linked on the first post.

2009 Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT Navigation System.pdf[/url]":2qw5o07z]USB*4/SD slot – Compatible portable devices with a USB connection, such as hard drives and flash memory drives, can be linked through the available USB cable that is connected to the rear of the unit. The system also accepts compatible SD memory cards through the slot located behind the motorized front panel.

So it sound to me like we can just add our own HDD or equivalent. And if that is true that is a step forward. Just shock mount a TB drive and have a huge amount of media storage and not be limited by the units drive. It sound like it will be easier to put media on and off a separate unit. Also if you kill the drive or something the system / OS will not be lost as well. As long as the USB feature works well I will give it a +1!

If we can't get into Test Mode with the 3.0 update, you can definitely count me out for the buying of the software. Being able to turn off key beeps, for example, is a MUST.

Key Beeps can be turned completly off now, and there is a new beep sound so it's not so annoying.

The rumor is testmode will no longer work with 3.0, but we'll see.

Awesome. What about quick access to muting the navigation?

I'm more interested the more I hear.

i cant find the videos anywhere

what am i doing wrong?

i cant find the videos anywhere

 

 

what am i doing wrong?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avic411/ ??

thanks, those look awesome

Pretty cool. I can't seem to find it, but does anyone know when these will be for sale and available to purchase?

Pretty cool. I can't seem to find it, but does anyone know when these will be for sale and available to purchase?

i'm assuming sometime in july

Great coverage,

Does anyone know if the avic Z110BT will have an ir remote compatibility. I currently have the Z3 with the steering wheel ir remote attachment and have become accustomed to using this feature...(2 little ones in the back seat so have to keep focused on the road at all times.) Thanks for any info.

I guess it would be safe to say the Z110 runs Windows CE too?

The 3.0 update will make the F series equivalent (software wise) to the X Series.

Maybe I missed it, but what are the hardware differences? I can deal with my F being slower and whatnot, but is there anything in the X series that makes they a 'must have' hardware upgrade?

Were there any comments about how these new units (or 3.0 software) would (if at all) change how things like the HD tuner works (and its shortcomings being fixed) or whether the folks at Pioneer knew (cared) about the mods being done currently to the F series?

Any word on whether the red light camera or speed camera will work on the new 3.0 software or new units?

Am I the only one that's disappointed to see that all of the new units appear to be based on the software from the F-Series? I will be amazed if they iron out the bugs, and the slowness of that interface before all of the new units are released. They have a LONG way to go with the F-Series, to make it anywhere near as usable as my old Z2.

I will also miss the XM NavTraffic on my Z2... MSN Direct is just not nearly as comprehensive as XM NavTraffic. Why does it seem that everyone is dropping XM NavTraffic?

The screens look very good, and the bootup time of the Z series seems good. The other units don't look like much of an improvement, though.

Dave

Any videos of the nav voice control/iPod control screen? Any pics or info?

Thanks!