Ok, that Z series looks like an improvement, the thing I'm really noticing is how when you were scrolling along the map it doesn't lag like hell. Even the lower end models seem to scroll at a reasonable speed, maybe 3-4 fps, whereas my F90BT is like watching a slide show when i try to scroll. Hopefully 3.0 will fix that.

The thing with 3.0 I'm scared about is, won't we lose our ability to hack the unit? That means we'll get locked at about 10 mph again! I must say I also really enjoy customizing the buttons... I guess we'll have to wait and see

Looking forward to see more videos....Jason. Thanks for keepin us updated.

Z110 has everything what i was looking for!!!

Pretty cool. I can't seem to find it, but does anyone know when these will be for sale and available to purchase?

 

i'm assuming sometime in july

Download the pdf file Jason have posted on the main page with the pictures of the units....It gives full details of specs, price and availability.

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=24982

That new Z maybe what I switch to. Very nice, and thanx for posting those vids Jason.

Am I the only one that's disappointed to see that all of the new units appear to be based on the software from the F-Series? I will be amazed if they iron out the bugs, and the slowness of that interface before all of the new units are released. They have a LONG way to go with the F-Series, to make it anywhere near as usable as my old Z2.

They said that the Z110 and the U310 are new, all-Pioneer designed. The F (and X) were partnered with NavNGo (iGo).

Also, there isnt really much different hardware-wise on the X-series. A new Apple authentication chip, which means iPhones won't get that stupid pop-up message. Otherwise almost exactly the same, it's all software updates.

Just checkin out the price for the Z110BT is $1,800.00 Seems a lil steep for my blood. Thought it would be cheaper but I guess its way up. Might have to hold off or check out Ebay when time is good. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/CarAudioVideo/In-Dash/GPS-Navigation-Systems/AVIC-Z110BT

They said that the Z110 and the U310 are new, all-Pioneer designed. The F (and X) were partnered with NavNGo (iGo).

 

Also, there isnt really much different hardware-wise on the X-series. A new Apple authentication chip, which means iPhones won't get that stupid pop-up message. Otherwise almost exactly the same, it's all software updates.

I'm definitely getting the Z110 now that I know iGo is not under it. I'm sorry, but I HATE the Pioneer-ized version of iGo, even if it did get improved with the new X series. The routing always sucked regardless along with the TTS voices. I have owned the D3, the Kenwood 8120, the 5120, and the F90 and F700. The D3 and the Garmin always had great routing in my area regardless of settings. I also prefer the look of the detailed Pioneer maps from the Z/D series era and am VERY happy to see the return of Pioneer's nav software along with the POI icons, etc. I'm saving up for this unit for sure. I would have gone to the Z series sooner if it only had updated/built in bluetooth and iPod control. Now it looks like that has happened and then some. Just wish it had the option for NavTraffic AND MSN direct, so you could choose the traffic service independently and still have the rest of MSN Direct. I loved the NavTraffic with my 8120/Garmin.

Just checkin out the price for the Z110BT is $1,800.00 Seems a lil steep for my blood. Thought it would be cheaper but I guess its way up. Might have to hold off or check out Ebay when time is good. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/CarAudioVideo/In-Dash/GPS-Navigation-Systems/AVIC-Z110BT

I thought $1,800.00 was the MSRP for the AVIC-Z(1-3). And pre-order is $1,599.99 at Crutchfield. Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT at Crutchfield

Pioneer's website shows the Z110 with an MSRP at $1800.

I just read in the PDF for the Z110 that the MSN Direct tuner is optional? Can anyone confirm this?

MSN Direct*1

– The AVIC-Z110BT is designed to interface with an optional MSN Direct tuner

to provide users (who subscribe and pay for the MSN Direct service) with updated traffic

information.

I just read in the PDF for the Z110 that the MSN Direct tuner is optional? Can anyone confirm this?

 

MSN Direct*1

– The AVIC-Z110BT is designed to interface with an optional MSN Direct tuner

to provide users (who subscribe and pay for the MSN Direct service) with updated traffic

information.

Ya I just noticed that "ND-MDT10 MSN Direct Tuner" is listed as an accessory for the AVIC-Z110BT.

Just checkin out the price for the Z110BT is $1,800.00 Seems a lil steep for my blood. Thought it would be cheaper but I guess its way up.

I thought $1,800.00 was the MSRP for the AVIC-Z(1-3). And pre-order is $1,599.99 at Crutchfield. Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT at Crutchfield

Pioneer's website shows the Z110 with an MSRP at $1800.

Ya I meant that the MSRP at 1800 is nothing new.

Good catch on that! Hopefully it won't cost too much and isn't too bulky either.

Check out the differences between the F and X here:

viewtopic.php?f=45&t=25031

When can we expect that test drive video of the Z110?

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090613005009&newsLang=en

 

Here you go, press release for the new X series with MSRP and a few features listed.

 

X910BT is $1100 and X710BT is $900.

The pioneer website lists higher MSRP's than that press release.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... n=overview

Is the F500bt getting updated also

When can we expect that test drive video of the Z110?

Tomorrow (Tuesday)

Good catch on that! Hopefully it won't cost too much and isn't too bulky either.

Optional MSN Direct tuner for use with AVIC-Z110BT.

MSRP $110.00 and the picture on Pioneer's webpage kinda looks like a prototype?!? The picture in the presentation looks more like a finished part. Kinda the generic hide away add on box. But they both look small.

What about quick access to muting the navigation?

I'm very curious about this as well. That's the only hack I have currently and I don't want to be without it

What about quick access to muting the navigation?

I'm very curious about this as well. That's the only hack I have currently and I don't want to be without it

Same here on that one, that is easily my most used feature of the navigation. I'm really going to try to make the new F 3.0 update work since $1600 + $100 for MSN receiver is kinda steep considering what that could buy me in the speakers/amps department. I'm still on all stock speakers with a cheapy $100 sub on a Pioneer 360w monoblock.

http://www.me-mag.com/HotwireReader.aspx?NewsId=5786

says...

Differences between the X7 and X9 include the inclusion of a built-in MSN Direct tuner and CD/DVD video playback in the X9. These features are not available in the X7. The X7 is priced at $700 and the X9 at $1,100.

I'm seeing prices all over the map. Crutchfield pre-order for X7 is $900. This place - http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/ has the X7 preorder for $789 ($250 more than the F7 - ouch).

Pioneer says $1,000 for the X7.

Man, I hope I can reel in an X7 for $400-500.

Ok so most of the F90BTs are around 600-700 online.

While the X serie is around 1100.

How do they justify this 500$ increase if the 70$ 3.0 is supposed to be the equivalent of the X?

(excluding minor faceplate changes, apple chip, etc)

EDIT//

OK nevermind apparently crutchfield price for both F90 and X is 1,100.

I wonder if amazon, soniceletronics, etc will have a price closer to the F90bt when the X comes out.

So from what I've found, the U310BT doesn't support voice control for iPods. Is that true? I would rather get an X series, but car theft is so high in Charlotte that I need something with a detachable face. My window was smashed over the weekend because I left a bookbag in the back by accident. Any other limitations to the U310 that I should know about?

Wow these all look like great units. I am curious to know more about the AVIC-U310BT as well. I am in the market for a new unit and I have never had any AVIC before. Curious to know.... I can get a AVIC-F90bt for the same price as a AVIC-U310BT!! Is this the better route to go since the software update will basically make it an X series? I dont use video in the car, just want the up to date navigation and speedy technology.

MC~