I should have the 3.0 update installed on Tuesday on my F900BT EU.

I know somebody who already has it, and i should see him on tuesday to get it too.

Will let you know...

I don't understand anything about it, see the posting of Jörg two days ago:

Map update is delayed in Europe until September (from Juli originally) as they still have to do more testing. 2.007 was withdrawn from the German site due to bugs with some destinations in Scandinavia.

Verbal info from Pioneer Hotline

Who the fxxk needs new maps after the holiday season? These guys can't get anything right.

See you in September

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I sent the following email to Pioneer:

"I am the not so proud owner of an AVIC-F90BT. While I anxiously await the 3.0 firmware upgrade so hopefully the unit will perform better, I find it disgusting that in spite of all the problems these units have had and continue to have, I will need to pay $130 for the update. Pioneer should provide these updates for free to existing owners because you sold us very buggy units while claiming they were a "Premiere" product. Shame on Pioneer."

 

I received the following reply from Pioneer today:

"There will be a free update made available to AVIC F series owners that will not provide full X series functionality or updated mapping, but will correct some glitches in F series firmware,

 

While we cannot provide more specific information at this time, please continue to check our website for more information in the coming weeks.

 

Thank You,

 

Mark

Customer Service Representative

"

i don't believe them

You guys make ne laugh. You are all getting upset and angry over posts made purely on speculation and rumours. Think threads like this should be locked and you should all just wait and see what happens for real when they release the update.

Guys be gentle with me, i have searched this thread but cant find the specific answer i`m looking for, its a little bit off topic from the 3. map / firmware thread, but, I have recently bought and installed a JVC KW-NT1, but thus far i`m not so impressed with it, nothing really wrong with the unit apart from I went on an 800 mile trip through Oklahoma, Texas and Arkansas and I did not see one highway exit sign throughout the whole journey, prior to having this unit I used a hacked Mio C320 with IGO 8.3 and this showed almost all the highway exits that I ever used, my kid now has the Mio, i`m from the UK now living in the USA, so having this feature is a big plus for me as I usually have absolutely no idea where I am going, anyhow back on topic, I have the chance of buying a refurbished Avic F710BT for $280, so a couple of questions:

I believe the 710BT is exactly the same as the 700BT with all the same features.

Will firmware / map V3 be available for the F710BT.

Any problems with refurbs from Pioneer.

I`m not worried about playing DVD`s, so the 710 sounds good to me, but do you still have to do the bypass to play Xvid videos from the SD card slot.

Does $280 plus the cost of the update sound a reasonable price.

TIA guys.

You guys make ne laugh. You are all getting upset and angry over posts made purely on speculation and rumours. Think threads like this should be locked and you should all just wait and see what happens for real when they release the update.

+1000000. Thank you. Seriously. You're all getting so angry over something, quite frankly, none of you know anything about. You are not an engineer employed by Pioneer, therefore you can't say that you know for sure what will or will not be included in the update, or if the firmware will be free and provided separately.

You're all speculating on what you see as a "Coming Soon!" product on Pioneer's website.

This is how hysteria spreads. A bunch of tards that get angry over something which has details that have not been fully announced or even released yet. That's like getting angry at a Concept Car at an Auto Show. It's not the official release of the car. Relax.

This thread shouldn't even exist, as the Topic itself is incorrect. The update has not been released (as has been said before repeatedly). All you're seeing is a freaking advertisement for a product that is still being developed.

I saw a post mentioning the rebate here in Australia for the map update. I am the OP and you can download the rebate form from here:

http://www.pioneer.com.au/navxtra/

Time for some soapboxing.

All you guys whining over the price you paid make me sick. In the rest of the world we pay a hell of a lot more for the unit. The rrp here is AUD$1995.00 (~US$1600.00) for the F900BT, and we dont get MSN, Voice Recognition, and a bunch of other features in our units. I didn't pay that, but still you get my point. So someone crying poor about paying $130 for an update on a unit he paid only $188 for, can shove his tears up his ass! If you cant afford it, dont do it, but shut the hell up because nobody cares! The update isnt even out yet, but there are 19 pages of people complaining about speculation on what it might or might not do. Complain after it comes out, not before, because judging from Pioneer's poor upadate history there sure as hell will be things to complain about after the update. Just be glad you didnt buy a Kenwood POS.

What a bunch of babies. Grow up!

I saw a post mentioning the rebate here in Australia for the map update. I am the OP and you can download the rebate form from here:

 

http://www.pioneer.com.au/navxtra/

 

Time for some soapboxing.

 

All you guys whining over the price you paid make me sick. In the rest of the world we pay a hell of a lot more for the unit. The rrp here is AUD$1995.00 (~US$1600.00) for the F900BT, and we dont get MSN, Voice Recognition, and a bunch of other features in our units. I didn't pay that, but still you get my point. So someone crying poor about paying $130 for an update on a unit he paid only $188 for, can shove his tears up his ass! If you cant afford it, dont do it, but shut the hell up because nobody cares! The update isnt even out yet, but there are 19 pages of people complaining about speculation on what it might or might not do. Complain after it comes out, not before, because judging from Pioneer's poor upadate history there sure as hell will be things to complain about after the update. Just be glad you didnt buy a Kenwood POS.

 

What a bunch of babies. Grow up!

This is an oddly hostile forum where someone gets attacked for voicing a strong opinion. Maybe you are the one who should quit crying over your high prices. I am not the one leveling personal attacks. I think the prices suck based on my previous explanation. While you attack someone instead of voicing an intelligent argument. grow up.

On another note. To those who stood up for me, thank you. I was going to start working on avic mods but have just now decided against it. To put it simply, there are too many @$$holes on this forum. I am out.

I wish they would get with tomtom for map commands, or any other brand. I hate the war the pioneer unit is setup. Yes I have read the instructions, but it can be so much more simple. Also I have been a hug pioneer fan forever. I can go to walmart and pick up a $100 cd player and it works flawless, but this system is just garbage right now. I am so surprised that it made it out of R&D and into the market with all the issues and slowness it has, just not very pioneer like at all. With that said, only the 3.o update can save its spot in my supra, if thats not tons better then Ill go back to a tomtom and a standard cd player

Call this guy a grief counsellor and get him a box of tissues....

I saw a post mentioning the rebate here in Australia for the map update. I am the OP and you can download the rebate form from here:

 

http://www.pioneer.com.au/navxtra/

 

Time for some soapboxing.

 

All you guys whining over the price you paid make me sick. In the rest of the world we pay a hell of a lot more for the unit. The rrp here is AUD$1995.00 (~US$1600.00) for the F900BT, and we dont get MSN, Voice Recognition, and a bunch of other features in our units. I didn't pay that, but still you get my point. So someone crying poor about paying $130 for an update on a unit he paid only $188 for, can shove his tears up his ass! If you cant afford it, dont do it, but shut the hell up because nobody cares! The update isnt even out yet, but there are 19 pages of people complaining about speculation on what it might or might not do. Complain after it comes out, not before, because judging from Pioneer's poor upadate history there sure as hell will be things to complain about after the update. Just be glad you didnt buy a Kenwood POS.

 

What a bunch of babies. Grow up!

 

This is an oddly hostile forum where someone gets attacked for voicing a strong opinion. Maybe you are the one who should quit crying over your high prices. I am not the one leveling personal attacks. I think the prices suck based on my previous explanation. While you attack someone instead of voicing an intelligent argument. grow up.

 

On another note. To those who stood up for me, thank you. I was going to start working on avic mods but have just now decided against it. To put it simply, there are too many @$$holes on this forum. I am out.

Man, that's really a pity, i really like the dimka skins(their yours if i understand correctly). I just downloade the newest one, to see if i could use some of the code or my avic, but i'm probably going to mess this up....

Suggested price here in europe suck even more though....€ 149,-(info from pioneer)...and no chanche on any rebate...

Bought the unit together with my passat CC in april. Knew about the coming update so asked my dealer to provide me with the latest software in July.

Last week I was called by a Pioneer rep who wanted my address to send me the SD with the latest software.

It should be sent this week so I''ll keep you posted.

If nothing arrives this week I'll try to find out if it is actually delayed.

When people start receiving the 3.0 upgrades will someone please benchmark their bootup to the main screen time in 2.0 and then in 3.0 to let us know how 3.0 runs on the f series hardware? A full write up of any differences of the f series 3.0 vs x series demo would be great also! Finally if you could test to insure that we can or cant boot into the unit with our old SD boot hack would be awesome

Oh and what happened to the $70 intro pricing? Was that just a rumor?

You guys make ne laugh. You are all getting upset and angry over posts made purely on speculation and rumours. Think threads like this should be locked and you should all just wait and see what happens for real when they release the update.

+1000000. Thank you. Seriously. You're all getting so angry over something, quite frankly, none of you know anything about. You are not an engineer employed by Pioneer, therefore you can't say that you know for sure what will or will not be included in the update, or if the firmware will be free and provided separately.

 

You're all speculating on what you see as a "Coming Soon!" product on Pioneer's website.

This is how hysteria spreads. A bunch of tards that get angry over something which has details that have not been fully announced or even released yet. That's like getting angry at a Concept Car at an Auto Show. It's not the official release of the car. Relax.

 

This thread shouldn't even exist, as the Topic itself is incorrect. The update has not been released (as has been said before repeatedly). All you're seeing is a freaking advertisement for a product that is still being developed.

Amen. 20 pages of posts with zero useful information in them.

I wish they would get with tomtom for map commands, or any other brand. I hate the war the pioneer unit is setup. Yes I have read the instructions, but it can be so much more simple. Also I have been a hug pioneer fan forever. I can go to walmart and pick up a $100 cd player and it works flawless, but this system is just garbage right now. I am so surprised that it made it out of R&D and into the market with all the issues and slowness it has, just not very pioneer like at all. With that said, only the 3.o update can save its spot in my supra, if thats not tons better then Ill go back to a tomtom and a standard cd player

If you want some cheesy TomTom or Garmin or some K-Mart brand like that, then lease, buy a handheld one. Some of us got AVIC exactly because it runs superior navigation platform.

Anyone in The Netherlands already able to buy the SD card? I'd like to buy this one too just before going on a holiday. I'd love to hear where I can buy it.

this thread is gettin nasty calm down guys. the money is for map licensing fees. the price seems to be right on target with that other manufactures are charging for map updates. if you guys have a problem voice it at pioneer instead of personal attacks on one another.

I think its reprehensible Pioneer is charging for this firmware upgrade! If maps need to be upgraded charge for it but don't bundle it with software required to make your hardware work properly.

Price wasn't the issue for me to purchase this unit in the first place. What sold me was functionality. After purchase, the problems:

1. Super slow, boot up and switching songs

2. Unresponsive screen & buttons

3. I have to have the parking brake on to use navigation?!?

4. Won't recognize most addresses for destinations.

The bottom line is why pay more for something that doesn't work properly in the first place?

SHAME ON YOU PIONEER.

I will purposely go out of my way to avoid buying another Pioneer product, let alone an upgrade.

I think its reprehensible Pioneer is charging for this firmware upgrade! If maps need to be upgraded charge for it but don't bundle it with software required to make your hardware work properly.

Price wasn't the issue for me to purchase this unit in the first place. What sold me was functionality. After purchase, the problems:

1. Super slow, boot up and switching songs

2. Unresponsive screen & buttons

3. I have to have the parking brake on to use navigation?!?

4. Won't recognize most addresses for destinations.

The bottom line is why pay more for something that doesn't work properly in the first place?

SHAME ON YOU PIONEER.

I will purposely go out of my way to avoid buying another Pioneer product, let alone an upgrade.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD READ THE FREAKIN THREAD!

CURRENT FIRMWARE USES IGO 8.0. NEW FIRMWARE USES IGO 8.3. 8.0 MAPS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH 8.3! THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CHARGING - BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHARGE FOR MAP LICENSES!!! ITS A COMPATIBILITY ISSUE - NEW VERSION FIRMWARE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OLD MAPS. PLEASE, STOP HARPING ON IT!!! DO YOU WANT THE NEW FIRMWARE WITH THE LATEST IGO OR NOT?????

I think its reprehensible Pioneer is charging for this firmware upgrade! If maps need to be upgraded charge for it but don't bundle it with software required to make your hardware work properly.

Price wasn't the issue for me to purchase this unit in the first place. What sold me was functionality. After purchase, the problems:

1. Super slow, boot up and switching songs

2. Unresponsive screen & buttons

3. I have to have the parking brake on to use navigation?!?

4. Won't recognize most addresses for destinations.

The bottom line is why pay more for something that doesn't work properly in the first place?

SHAME ON YOU PIONEER.

I will purposely go out of my way to avoid buying another Pioneer product, let alone an upgrade.

Here we go again.... In order for the new maps to work, you need the new firmware!!! Please read before posting... you guys all look like idiots when you do this!!!

There was a single post somewhere around here recently that claimed a Pioneer rep stated that a 3.0 update would be available without maps and without the IGO 8.3 at no charge, but I have no idea how accurate that is. The rep could have been clueless, or the guy posting could have misunderstood, who knows.

I will purposely go out of my way to avoid buying another Pioneer product, let alone an upgrade.

And please purposely go out of your way to never post again since you're too lame to read ANY of the 20 pages of posts before yours, you self-centered retard.

Here we go again.... In order for the new maps to work, you need the new firmware!!! Please read before posting... you guys all look like idiots when you do this!!!

Yikes, my apologies.

I did read several pages, unfortunately I don't have time to read 20 pages. The content related to my post was on page 19. The pages I read were about trashing other members/posts.

Here we go again.... In order for the new maps to work, you need the new firmware!!! Please read before posting... you guys all look like idiots when you do this!!!

 

Yikes, my apologies.

 

I did read several pages, unfortunately I don't have time to read 20 pages. The content related to my post was on page 19. The pages I read were about trashing other members/posts.

Fair enough

I should have the 3.0 update installed on Tuesday on my F900BT EU.

I know somebody who already has it, and i should see him on tuesday to get it too.

Will let you know...

 

you gotta take a pic to prove it...

 

but interested to know whats changed!

There you go...

SD nr.1 : http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img4373.jpg/

SD nr.2 : http://img294.imageshack.us/i/img4374.jpg/

I should have the 3.0 update installed on Tuesday on my F900BT EU.

I know somebody who already has it, and i should see him on tuesday to get it too.

Will let you know...

 

you gotta take a pic to prove it...

 

but interested to know whats changed!

 

There you go...

SD nr.1 : http://img43.imageshack.us/i/img4373.jpg/

 

SD nr.2 : http://img294.imageshack.us/i/img4374.jpg/

wow impressive, so notice any difference?