Like I said again... it's pretty sweet we have to pay more for them to fix their bugs. They should offer a separate download for the bug fixes.
I tend to agree. I've already given up on the nav system, in favor of my Garmin 750, but I'd still like to benefit from the bug fixes and performance improvements.
Like I said again... it's pretty sweet we have to pay more for them to fix their bugs. They should offer a separate download for the bug fixes.
yeah WTF???? I have no problem paying for updates, but bug fixes? Even Microsoft doesn't do that and they ALWAYS have their hand out for more money....
it could maybe just a dumb idea,im not familiar with the update keycode, adn dont know when its asked for, if the unit askes for the code when you try to update, maybe its possible to go into test mode and just copy the contents of the update sd card to the right folders of the flashdisk
dont shoot me for this 
it could maybe just a dumb idea,im not familiar with the update keycode, adn dont know when its asked for, if the unit askes for the code when you try to update, maybe its possible to go into test mode and just copy the contents of the update sd card to the right folders of the flashdisk
dont shoot me for this
That is the smartest thing I've ever heard.
it could maybe just a dumb idea,im not familiar with the update keycode, adn dont know when its asked for, if the unit askes for the code when you try to update, maybe its possible to go into test mode and just copy the contents of the update sd card to the right folders of the flashdisk
dont shoot me for this
Well usually to enter testmode you have to have the sd card in before you boot up the unit. With that said we would have to have testmode on the update card in order to do that which doesnt seem possible.
Well usually to enter testmode you have to have the sd card in before you boot up the unit. With that said we would have to have testmode on the update card in order to do that which doesnt seem possible.
In addition, if Pioneer really wanted to be difficult 
, the could even store the data on the card encrypted.... However, that's just me being paranoid... 
it could maybe just a dumb idea,im not familiar with the update keycode, adn dont know when its asked for, if the unit askes for the code when you try to update, maybe its possible to go into test mode and just copy the contents of the update sd card to the right folders of the flashdisk
dont shoot me for this
Well usually to enter testmode you have to have the sd card in before you boot up the unit. With that said we would have to have testmode on the update card in order to do that which doesnt seem possible.
You can eject the SD card and it is seen as a mass storage device. What he said is quite possible...
I'm hyped on this, especially if we can get it for $70.
You can eject the SD card and it is seen as a mass storage device. What he said is quite possible...
It is also just as possible that with the upgrade AVIC will brew coffee for you...
You can eject the SD card and it is seen as a mass storage device. What he said is quite possible...
It is also just as possible that with the upgrade AVIC will brew coffee for you...
Thanks for the intelligent contribution. Fact is... if Pioneer offered the bug fixes for free like they should... people would be less inclined to circumvent the upgrade procedure.
You can eject the SD card and it is seen as a mass storage device. What he said is quite possible...
It is also just as possible that with the upgrade AVIC will brew coffee for you...
What if we booted in testmode, but had the updates on a USB thumb drive?
You can eject the SD card and it is seen as a mass storage device. What he said is quite possible...
It is also just as possible that with the upgrade AVIC will brew coffee for you...
What if we booted in testmode, but had the updates on a USB thumb drive?
I would think that you could just put the files on the SD card along with the testmode files. The problem is that it seems like they've built in a way to make it so that your copy of the firmware only works on a system with your serial number.
"It will also have a security code linked to your AVIC serial number."
Someone will have to hack that system before we can just pass the files around and load them onto our F-Series. We won't know how secure they've made these files until we try. I actually don't think $70 is that bad for all the improvements you get, although I wouldn't complain if someone found a way to upgrade it for free
I would think that you could just put the files on the SD card along with the testmode files. The problem is that it seems like they've built in a way to make it so that your copy of the firmware only works on a system with your serial number.
"It will also have a security code linked to your AVIC serial number."
Someone will have to hack that system before we can just pass the files around and load them onto our F-Series. We won't know how secure they've made these files until we try. I actually don't think $70 is that bad for all the improvements you get, although I wouldn't complain if someone found a way to upgrade it for free
Well put! I agree!
I think there is no harm done when european avic Fxxx users, gather and ask pioneer to be reasonable and give them a good discount on the entire update too, for € 50 I'll buy it, no doubt about it!
Thanks for the intelligent contribution. Fact is... if Pioneer offered the bug fixes for free like they should... people would be less inclined to circumvent the upgrade procedure.
If you didn't engage in meaningless speculation (with some suggestions being straight out impossible), I'd be less likely to be snarky about it.
When the upgrade actually comes out, people will get to work on unlocking it. At this point we have no idea how involved unlocking the AVIC will имую Or if it will, in fact, brew coffee.
So, I see the link says for "in dash" units....no mention of the F500. This happened last time too, right? No initial update for F500 users.
Any word if this is going to happen for F500 owners as well?
Here is a detail list of fixes Pioneer has on their website.
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Coming Soon!
Model year 2009 TeleAtlas database on SD Card, featuring nearly 12 million POI, US and Canada coverage (including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico).
Includes firmware version 3.0, including heading-up option in 2D view, Highway Sign Boards, enhanced map UI with improved contrast, and more. MSN Direct features 3 additional channels (news, stocks and local events) and traffic flow displayed on map.
Compatible only with AVIC-F500BT.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... CNSD-150FM
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Now we know what they fixed. What bothers me is that it say compatible with AVIC-F500BT. Does that mean it is only compatible with F500 or it will work with F500 as well as all the others?
Now we know what they fixed. What bothers me is that it say compatible with AVIC-F500BT. Does that mean it is only compatible with F500 or it will work with F500 as well as all the others?
It shows compatability with all units here.. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... CNSD-100FM
Now we know what they fixed. What bothers me is that it say compatible with AVIC-F500BT. Does that mean it is only compatible with F500 or it will work with F500 as well as all the others?
It shows compatability with all units here.. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... CNSD-100FM
Really because this is what it says on the top of the page:
CNSD-150FM
Map Upgrade for AVIC-F500BT Navigation System
Suggested Price: $130.00
Disregard my last... I was looking at the AVIC-F500BT update page.
Thanks,
There are two separate updates, one for the F500BT, another for all the other in dash models.
Now I have just to figure out how to hardware bypass the video block while moving on the F500BT before I can start wondering if it will still work with the update. Search button here I come...
If you didn't engage in meaningless speculation (with some suggestions being straight out impossible), I'd be less likely to be snarky about it.
When the upgrade actually comes out, people will get to work on unlocking it. At this point we have no idea how involved unlocking the AVIC will имую Or if it will, in fact, brew coffee.
Right! All this speculation is useless until some of the brainiacs on this site get their hands on the update. So, would someone please take a moment from the speculating to answer
Please excuse the question, but I don't quite get the mod thing. I guess my question is, will the update over write the complete flash or will remnant code remain from the mod and cause problems? Thanks in advance
or is it just a dumb question?
Exactly when is this "introductory period"? Will it be a pre-sale period or will it be the first period of availabilty?
This may be a stupid question as I have no idea whether they ever work but has anyone thought about setting up an online petition and sending it to Pioneer?
I mean, I don't have any problem with paying for map updates, or significant feature additions like many people here. But I'm definitely not happy to be paying a fifth of the cost of the unit to fix bugs on a system that was released at less than fully quality tested.
Just an idea, probably a dumb one.
If you didn't engage in meaningless speculation (with some suggestions being straight out impossible), I'd be less likely to be snarky about it.
When the upgrade actually comes out, people will get to work on unlocking it. At this point we have no idea how involved unlocking the AVIC will имую Or if it will, in fact, brew coffee.
I'm hoping it does brew coffee! would save me money and time in the morning on the way to work and my cup holder is right next to my AVIC....Boris great idea and if it doesnt come as an update is there a way you can create a mod so it does?
People....patience!!! Unless you know for sure what and when is going be released, you risk looking like a fool. If the update fixes the rebooting problem, I'll be happy..