YOU GUYS ARE FRIGGIN INCREDIBLE...........the WMWIFIROUTER software on my htc diamond touch wirelessly connected to my F500BT is a success. I have internet anywhere my phone works....... thats pretty muchh the whole US...... now we need to get it going while the AVIC software is running
enjoying the internet, but suffering reboots periodically..... any ideas why.... anyone working on access from within pioneers software.
any luck getting the icon into the regular pioneer screen instead of through testmode?
Miotoo....... we cant let this die on the vine. If we can access the web while using the pioneer front end software, the possibilities are endless....
.. I imagine cruising thru San Diego and seeing my gps location blip along using google "satellite image" on my AVIC screen.... ha.....now thats a lot of 3d buildings..
.... or doing the google search and seeing the very latest POI information (not our quickly outdated downloads).
oh the possibilities.....
Miotoo....... we cant let this die on the vine. If we can access the web while using the pioneer front end software, the possibilities are endless....
.. I imagine cruising thru San Diego and seeing my gps location blip along using google "satellite image" on my AVIC screen.... ha.....now thats a lot of 3d buildings..
.... or doing the google search and seeing the very latest POI information (not our quickly outdated downloads).
oh the possibilities.....
Based on the usage model you just described, I sort of fear the possibilities... The idea of drivers browsing the Web while they're driving, oi. If the Web software let us control the system via voice commands ("search Google Maps for directions from My Location to X", "open URL Y and READ the text to me", as examples) then I could see having a live connection to the Web being useful AND safe. But since the Web is a visual medium by nature, then as long as the parking brake hack exists it scares me to think about the possibility of drivers not looking at the road while they browse the web (texting is bad enough!) since there's no way to guarantee the car isn't in motion when they're looking at the thing. 
But I digress from the topic at hand. So far, Opera Mobile won't work w/ Google Maps (and I've had Opera cause a fatal error several times causing a system reboot, even less useful ). Still haven't gotten IEsample.exe from MioPocket working on the AVIC either (won't load pages). Wanted to try Iris browser or the Google Map app but neither CAB will install from the AVIC. Which means it's time to lose iPod control and try for ActiveSync for installation, I guess. Have the MortScript written that copies the Spectec DLL to \Windows and updates the registry with the right setup info, but it still takes a card eject and insertion to actually start the card. Still haven't found the right way to pass SSID/WEP/WPA information to the driver without getting Explorer and the Soft Input Panel involved, which of course is inconvenient and unsafe to do during driving (which one would be by the time the damn AVIC's done booting). Once I get the network setup process figured out I was going to add the button to the "Destination" menu, next to "Favorites". Need to get a web browser icon created for that task, tried borrowing the News icon from the MSN Direct menu but it didn't look quite right...
LOL.... remember, its the passenger that does the stuff we should'nt do while driving......thats the reason we have bypasses right.... non of this typing in POI's, addresses, or web pages while we drive. 
........right 
and those guys over on the carputer websites actually carry around unemployed relatives so they can use the carputer system while driving. 
..........................The idea of drivers browsing the Web while they're driving, oi. If the Web software let us control the system via voice commands ...........as long as the parking brake hack exists it scares me to think about the possibility of drivers not looking at the road while they browse the web (texting is bad enough!) since there's no way to guarantee the car isn't in motion when they're looking at the thing.
Using the AVIC to browse the internet might be ok if you really needed too (hopefully parked) but I believe the real prize will be listening to internet radio stations through your AVIC while you are driving down the road.
Using the AVIC to browse the internet might be ok if you really needed too (hopefully parked) but I believe the real prize will be listening to internet radio stations through your AVIC while you are driving down the road.
+1 and X100
Hey guys I might be completely off but is there a way we can load the drivers and such from a usb drive? that way It can run in the Pioneer set up?
Please see first post for updated Testmode to boot from USB instead of SD. This is not for running in parallel to the Pioneer shell, but for those who don't want to worry about swapping between SD card for testmode and wifi.
This is great, i can`t wait for my Wifi SD card to come so i can try this 
Is this expected to work on the f700bt and f900bt models?
Yes.
Do you need the new 3.0 upgrade for this to work?
No.
@Miotoo
First of; Excellent Work with your internet mod!
I am trying your mod on my F900BT but I want to implement some changes of my own. First of all I have Opera running on top of the AVIC software by pressing a custom icon on the navigation screen. Mortscript copys the nescessairy files and executes Opera executable. Opera is the new active window and appears on top op Navi program. IGO command explained in thread: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=25223&p=171106&hilit=resinfo#p171106
Problem with this way of running Opera is that the Windows CE virtual keyboard doesn't pop u when a text input control gets focus. I have found another virtual keyboard application called JOTKBD.EXE found in the latest Mio Pocket release at GPSPassion: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topi ... _ID=109690. This virtual keyboard can be set to cover almost the whole screen by modifying its registry settings through mortscript.
At first I wanted to program Mortscript to monitor text input controls (like AutoIt does). Starting the JOTKBD.EXE program whenever an input field gets focus. Sadly Mortscript does not support this feature. Typing becomes impossible because there is no way to start the JOTKBD.EXE application when Opera is running on top of the AVIC software.
A great solution for this would be to change the hardwarekeys (joystick) of the unit so that the UP hardwarekey will start the JOTKBD application and the downhardwarekey will kill the JOTKBD.EXE proces. This way you can use opera with great ease. Start internetexplorer from navigation screen. Whenever there is need to type text, press the UP key on the joystick and input text through touchscreen with almost fullscreen keyboard. Remove keyboard by pressing DOWN key. And ofcource all this while your music keeps playing.
Everything is working exept for the new keyboard. All I need to do is start JOTKBD.EXE when hardwarekey UP is clicked. I have noticed that the normal hardware UP action is tilting and/or zooming the map. If I can embed the starting of JOTKBD in the script that normally runs, the new keyboard would be fully functional.
Unfortunately I can't seem to figure out how the hardware keys work together with IGO script. Does anyone know how this can be done?
PS
I have already tried 3rd party hardwarebutton modification software like powerbutton and AE Button, but it seems that Windows CE has no direct control over them.
There are also some settings in the keybind.txt file in folder config from data.zip. They can be used to change the IGO hardwarebuttons presets, but I just can't figure out how it all works together.
I was successful in using the keybind.txt file to alter functionality ONLY when running the igo 8.3 pda version in test mode. This leads me to believe the Pioneer shell works together with ezrider.exe to send the key-press hook data and disregards any entries in the file (in fact you can remove it completely from data.zip and the software/keys work just fine).
In any case, here are the values I found, for the F500 device:
KEYBIND CODES:
JOYSTICK UP A6
JOYSTICK DOWN A8
JOYSTICK LEFT D5
JOYSTICK RIGHT A7
ENTER 8D
JOG LEFT AE
JOG RIGHT AF
MENU C4
MAP C3
If you don't mind, please share your modified data.zip with the scripts etc to run opera from the shell, so others can test it out and maybe contribute to this thread.
Thanks
@Miotoo
I am trying your mod on my F900BT but I want to implement some changes of my own. First of all I have Opera running on top of the AVIC....
I'm very happy to read your post! I'm still shopping for an F-series unit right now, but I'll be playing with the wifi option in the future. Specifically, I'd like to install a software app that will keep an mp3 folder synced with a folder on my home network ... so I can just drop mp3s in to a folder at home using a laptop and have them appear on the pioneer's sd car. And/or install a podcast agregator on the pioneer so I can get fresh podcasts autosynced.
It would be nice if there were an sd card with 802.11n wifi, but I don't see any on the web.
P.S. I'd be good if someone you) made a WIFI hack thread in the F-Series Hacks forum; we need one.
This is great news and has a TON of potential.
Integration with LeetLauncher seems like it would be the route to take.
I was confident that this would happen. Please keep it up guys. I wish I could contribute help. I will contribute $ for the hours of hard work if we can get internet while in the the pioneer invironment.
Question, will wince allow drivers that could run a keyboard via usb on our AVIC's?
It would be a hassle, especially if you want a USB hard drive plugged in or something. The easier route is like someone already mentioned with the large on screen keyboard that pops up when you need to type.
I'm wondering if a USB to SD adapter would allow the sdio card (SD/wifi card) to be used through the pioneer's rear usb cable, freeing up the front sd slot.
The adapters are widely available; i believe I just saw them at Office Depot for $9.99.
@Miotoo
An update and a problem. I have found a way to get the keyboard to pop up in Windows CE. It is a program called Hotkey that was included in the latest MioPocket release. The UP key has command 166 and the DOWN key has command 168. When I press the UP key, a mortscript starts the JOTKBD keyboard almost fullscreen. When I press the DOWN key, a mortscript kills the JOTKBD proces.
However when I boot into the pioneer software, the hotkey application does not respond. It seems like the Navi program captures the keypresses and does not allow other applications to see them. I am looking for a way arround this problem.
Another problem; my Spectec SDW-821 SDIO Wifi card came in today and I tried to get it working. Unfortunately the directions in the first post do not seem to work. I have installed the driver CAB file but when I insert the Wifi card, nothing happens. After that I tried the USB files but again nothing happens when I insert the Wifi card.
Am I missing something or is the F900BT unit not compattible with this Wifi card?
@Miotoo
An update and a problem. I have found a way to get the keyboard to pop up in Windows CE. It is a program called Hotkey that was included in the latest MioPocket release. The UP key has command 166 and the DOWN key has command 168. When I press the UP key, a mortscript starts the JOTKBD keyboard almost fullscreen. When I press the DOWN key, a mortscript kills the JOTKBD proces.
However when I boot into the pioneer software, the hotkey application does not respond. It seems like the Navi program captures the keypresses and does not allow other applications to see them. I am looking for a way arround this problem.
Another problem; my Spectec SDW-821 SDIO Wifi card came in today and I tried to get it working. Unfortunately the directions in the first post do not seem to work. I have installed the driver CAB file but when I insert the Wifi card, nothing happens. After that I tried the USB files but again nothing happens when I insert the Wifi card.
Am I missing something or is the F900BT unit not compattible with this Wifi card?
Indeed the Pioneer shell handles the keypresses directly with ezrider.exe. I have not found a way around this yet.
About the Spectec card, only thing I can think of is that the wince image on your device does not have all the required network files/reg settings to launch wzc. I have tested it working on 6.0.5.0 & 6.5.0.6.
Which PLT version is on your device? If we unpack the wince image and find whats missing, we can try to add the missing files and entries with mortscript.
Maybe someone with a device other then the F500BT can respond on this thread whether its working for them and if yes, with which wince version..
@miotoo,
Many thanks for your post.
Toxit, I have received my spectec card friday and I have followed the steps indicated by miotoo. I was able to connect my F500BT to the Internet. I used Opera mobile and the drivers from the rapidshare link indicated by miotoo.
I did that only when the unit is in testmode. I put a button in the navigation menu to access opera and indeed I had the same problem as you discussed here: the keyboard. But if I access explorer instead of Opera and I bring up the WIN CE keyboard, then I can launch opera from explorer. I know it is not an elegant solution, but it is just a workaround until we find a better solution.
So I want you to confirm that Opera and the spectec driver worked for me, but only in testmode. Curiously, once I installed the driver in my unit, it was erased from my SD card. So , every time I want to use Internet, I have to install that CAB again.
Here is my button for explorer. I will make one for the Opera.
Can you explain to me how mortscript works with pioneer? What are the steps to update the WINCE registry?
Thank you again both of you.