Maybe someone with a device other then the F500BT can respond on this thread whether its working for them and if yes, with which wince version..

Works fine for me with F90BT and 3.0 (Official) update... Will have to check which WinCE version that is.

Mind you, I always launch my Spectec 802.11g with MortScript from explorer directly, so the soft input panel will pop up when Zero Config needs the network, SSID, etc. This is with Pioneer shell mode, I'm not using Testmode anymore except when I need to update DATA.zip or any files normally in use by the programs in the APL or APL2 folders.

 

Curiously, once I installed the driver in my unit, it was erased from my SD card. So , every time I want to use Internet, I have to install that CAB again.

That is a standard wince install behavior, just set the cab file 'Read-only' attribute and it will remain on the source after install.

Will you be laying out the steps for us to follow? For example: Step 1: do this ......., Step 2: do that......, and so on and so forth. Thanks for all the time and great work you have dedicated to getting this mod up and running.

I took a look at the latest Mio Pocket release again and I found a folder called WLAN. The WLAN folder contains some DLL files that I don't have in my Windows CE folder. The files are;

- cxpotr.dll

- eap.dll

- eapol.dll

- ethman.dll

- ndisuio.dll

- netui.dll

- secur32.dll

- WLAN11b.dll

- WLAN11g.dll

- wlclient.dll

- wzcsapi.dll

- wzcsvc.dll

When I read through the CopyTool.mscr file of the USB Testmode file posted by Miotoo on the first page of this thread, I see registry keys linked to those files. I will try to copy these files into my Windows folder and try to insert the card again. Unfortunately I am at work now so I can't try this now.

Can someone who has the card working please give me the contents of their windows folder so I can compare with my own to see what else I could be missing?

As for the step by step tutorial, I will post all my files and instructions how to use them as soon as I have everything running. For now I can only give the files that I used to get the keyboard to work with the UP and DOWN hardwarekeys under Windows CE. Note that this does NOT work under Pioneer Shell yet!

In the attached file you will find the Hotkey program and the Keyboard program. Copy those two folders into the "\My Flash Disk\APL3\" folder. Run the Hotkey application and your hardware keyboard should work. If you want your files in other locations; modify the Hotkey.ini, KayboardON.mscr and KeyboardOFF.mscr files.

Hardware Keyboard.rar

hora, thanks for the button. I am using it on my destinations screen as the 6th button. I now can go to Address, POI, Favorites, or to Windows File Manager on the top row of buttons. The 'e' works well as the button. Thanks.

I have tried copying the DLL files to my windows folder only to find out that the files are already there but not visible with windows explorer. After inserting the card, no reaction. I tried installing the driver CAB with the CopyTool.mscr registry edits and the Mio Pocket WLAN files with the driver CAB and with the CopyTool.mscr registry entries, but nothing seems to work.

What I do see is that when I insert my normal SD card after de the SDIO WLAN card, the unit does not recognize the normal SD card anymore. This leads me to believe that the card gets detected, but like Miotoo said, my Windows version is not able to launch the configuration utility.

Where can I find my PLT version number?

The utility to configure the Wifi card is it a stand alone application or is it coded inside the wlan driver DLL file?

Is everyone who has installed this mod succesfully running the 3.0 firmware update?

The utility to configure the Wifi card is it a stand alone application or is it coded inside the wlan driver DLL file?

Ethman is the utility I'm using to add the Zero Config information once the card is inserted. If you don't have the following lines in your .mscr, then the registry won't have the key to tell it to pop up when you insert the card:

#####
# [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Builtin\Ethman\Popup]
# Popup=1
# Timeout=3600 (or 0xE10)
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "Drivers\Builtin\Ethman\Popup", "Popup", 1)
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "Drivers\Builtin\Ethman\Popup", "Timeout", 3600)

You'll need some sort of input panel solution (Soft Input Panel or the Keyboard hack Toxit came up with) in order to enter your WEP/WPA keys (if necessary). You should be able to use the stylus to select your SSID if it's broadcast by the router, if it's hidden you'll need the SIP/Keyboard again to type it in.

Is everyone who has installed this mod successfully running the 3.0 firmware update?

I am running the "official" 3.0 update from Pioneer on my F90BT.

I remember back 5+ years ago I saw sdio cards (sd wifi cards) WITH built in memory. I went googling for them and came up pretty much empty handed. I did see this model:

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-2 ... roduct_top

It's 256 megs and 802.11b in 2003.

DON"T GET THIS CARD. It is very old with old drivers and not 802.11g. I'm just showing it to show there are or were sdio cards with built in memory.

It may be a mute point because I can't find any, it looks they went the way of the dodo as pocket pcs did.

I remember back 5+ years ago I saw sdio cards (sd wifi cards) WITH built in memory. I went googling for them and came up pretty much empty handed. I did see this model:

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Connect-2 ... roduct_top

It's 256 megs and 802.11b in 2003.

 

DON"T GET THIS CARD. It is very old with old drivers and not 802.11g. I'm just showing it to show there are or were sdio cards with built in memory.

 

It may be a mute point because I can't find any, it looks they went the way of the dodo as pocket pcs did.

http://www.eye.fi/

The eye fi looks really neat but from what I have read on the website it doesn't look like it will work for this purpose. The card looks like it is only capable of transferring data (images, video) that are stored on the card, I don't think it will communicate with any devices and allow internet browsing etc.

Well that sucks. I thought it show up as just a normal wifi adapter. =/

I almost brought up the eye-fi and how it was NOT a solution, but pondered, because that would be two mute points I made. I was trying to figure out if the eye-fi could be used as a wireless card, but it looks like it can't, though I'm just short of conclusive on figuring that out.

I'd like to get a USB 802.11N[/N] stick to work with the F Series. I don't imagine there are a whole lot of USB wifi sticks with WINCE drivers though (think about it).

I'm hoping to figure out an angle to discover a generic driver the works with some USB stick. Unfortunately, I've had problems being brilliant lately.

huh, it crossed my mind to google '802.11n wince' and I found this

http://www.ambicom.com/prod_detail.php? ... 0Solutions

wonder what their return policy is

any reason this item shouldn't work even though it has drivers for wince?

(802.11N is important to me because if we're going to sync with my car in the driveway we'll need the range N provides)

It looks the WINCE drivers for the WL250N-USB Wireless-N are not freely downloadable. I'll try to find another.

Random thought:

Will the F-Series WINCE OS see two USB sticks if a powered(or not powered) USB Hub is used?

(could probably put the sdio card on the USB via an adapter, and also have a usb stick or portable laptop drive on the other and still have the sd card slot free)

The USB port will only do one device at a time.

 

Will the F-Series WINCE OS see two USB sticks if a powered(or not powered) USB Hub is used?

 

Yes it does.

The USB port will only do one device at a time.

More precisely it will only support devices from the same type at a time, depending on the selected USB Function Client mode.

Just wondering if it's possible to just use the Bluetooth to share the internet thru the phone network (3G/Edge). The main purpose is to make MSN Direct work, and have traffic/Weather updates, etc.

I don't think we could get usable WIFI connections at lots of driving areas.

Just wondering if it's possible to just use the Bluetooth to share the internet thru the phone network (3G/Edge). The main purpose is to make MSN Direct work, and have traffic/Weather updates, etc.

 

I don't think we could get usable WIFI connections at lots of driving areas.

I think the BT option was explored, and it was found that the Pioneer shell works directly with the bluetooth hardware, and not using windows at all. Carver is exploring the option to add windows built-in bluetooth support, possibly with an external USB dongle.

Kafklatch on this thread did however manage to get his mobile phone to act as a hotspot, connecting the avic using sdio wifi.

Does anyone know if it is possible to tether an iPhone via USB to use the internet? My iPhone has tethering enabled (I can tether to my desktop computer via USB), and the AVIC has a USB port. I tried just plugging the iPhone in, but it doesn't appear to be registering on my AVIC as anything is connected.

The best route we have is wifi to wifi tethering, which someone already explained. Wifi to bluetooth would be the next easiest, then USB.

 

Will the F-Series WINCE OS see two USB sticks if a powered(or not powered) USB Hub is used?

 

 

Yes it does.

 

The USB port will only do one device at a time.

 

More precisely it will only support devices from the same type at a time, depending on the selected USB Function Client mode.

I'm not sure what you mean here by same 'type'. You mean you can connect two thumb drives but not a thumb drive and ?? [all I can think of is a usb wifi card (but there's no drivers I know for them)]? What other usb device works when connected alone, but not when on a hub with a thumb drive? or what part am I missing here?

Looks like he means two thumb drives (or other like devices). I've tried it before with a USB hub, and it didn't work. Maybe it depends if the device you're using will work with generic drivers.

Looks like he means two thumb drives (or other like devices). I've tried it before with a USB hub, and it didn't work. Maybe it depends if the device you're using will work with generic drivers.

I'm guessing it didn't work for you because there wasn't enough power, not sure. A typical usb powers at 5 volts, 500 milliamps [i believe], and when you use a hub there is less power to go around. Many [you may be aware of all of this already, sorry] external notebook drives have a funky cable that has one usb male coming from the drive going to a split with two usb males going in to a computer. It has two go in because it wants the power. I tried 3 external notebook drives before I found one that could be powered off a single USB port (on a different pioneer stereo).

Now I'm guessing (out of my butt) that maybe wince is limited to using one driver at a time on a usb connection. I don't know if I believe that.

 

I'm not sure what you mean here by same 'type'. You mean you can connect two thumb drives but not a thumb drive and ?? [all I can think of is a usb wifi card (but there's no drivers I know for them)]? What other usb device works when connected alone, but not when on a hub with a thumb drive? or what part am I missing here?

I mean that you can't for example hook up a usb drive & use activesync with your pc at the same time.

 

I'm guessing it didn't work for you because there wasn't enough power, not sure. A typical usb powers at 5 volts, 500 milliamps [i believe], and when you use a hub there is less power to go around. Many [you may be aware of all of this already, sorry] external notebook drives have a funky cable that has one usb male coming from the drive going to a split with two usb males going in to a computer. It has two go in because it wants the power. I tried 3 external notebook drives before I found one that could be powered off a single USB port (on a different pioneer stereo).

 

Now I'm guessing (out of my butt) that maybe wince is limited to using one driver at a time on a usb connection. I don't know if I believe that.

Wince supports multiple drives on one usb connection without a problem. You do need to have enough power for that which as you say is 5V/500mA per port. In my example above the hub itself consumes 100mA, one drive consumes 98mA and the other drive 200mA.

Mind you there are crappy usb cables which don't provide even the 500mA successfully, typically those provided with card readers. Those supplied with a usb hub should (logically) be good enough.

Yeah, I'm aware of the power issue.. I am powering mine correctly. I made this thread: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=24072

It just didn't work when I tried. I plugged in two thumb drives, only one showed up. I plugged in two hard drives, only one showed up. I plugged in a thumb drive and a hard drive, only one showed up. I tried changing the USB host settings in WinCE and got the same results.

Oh well, it doesn't concern me that much.