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AppRadio Extensions 2.0 Beta - Full iPhone control

By mikedecaro · May 06, 2012in AppRadio, AppRadio 2, AppRadio 3💬 2,444 posts👁️ 945,070 views
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Posted Feb 13, 2014 · 02:43 UTC#2101

This was exactly my thinking, upgraded to ios7 about a week ago as I didn't want to risk missing out on the window!

and this is why I am back on my iphone 4 on 6.1 and my iphone 5 on 7 on my glove compartment  also got a company phone Samsung  S3 with arunchained and waiting patiently, hopefully will come out soon will definitely make a donation once its out.

Posted Feb 15, 2014 · 19:44 UTC#2102

Can't wait for iOS7 support. Keep up the great work Mike!

Posted Feb 18, 2014 · 11:11 UTC#2103

Hy guys i updated to appradio extensions 2 via cydia

No its harder to go back to my other apps

I have to reload appradio by phone

Everytime i exit

Is there a downgrade available please

Really need this bk

Gonna cause a accident i swear

 

 

If it aint broke dont fix it

Posted Feb 18, 2014 · 16:59 UTC#2104

Hy guys i updated to appradio extensions 2 via cydia

No its harder to go back to my other apps

I have to reload appradio by phone

Everytime i exit

Is there a downgrade available please

Really need this bk

Gonna cause a accident i swear

If it aint broke dont fix it

I'm having the same issues. The screen will go blank after messing with an app and then I have to start all over again.

Posted Feb 18, 2014 · 18:38 UTC#2105

Need a downgrade badly

Using the multitasker is the next best thing atm

Which u gota use the phone for

will be trying this on my 5 s today

Posted Feb 18, 2014 · 19:09 UTC#2106

Mike please put up old version of app-radio ex on cydia

Aswell will be so good to go back

Appreciated it will donate ) obvsly

 

Ferdi G :)

Posted Feb 18, 2014 · 22:57 UTC#2107

Aint been following since this has workd on my 4s

Now i upgraded realise ios 7 not compatible with apex hope theres an update soon

 

In the mean time a downgrade link will be good for previous appex as i downloaded on 4s blindly and its not as good as before

Thanks donated

Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 11:30 UTC#2108

All set phones jb on 7.05 all apps working now only thing left appex and iam ready to get rid of the 4s and move on up to 5s

Good luck mike hope theres progresss in the works thanks all for contributions and all work

Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 17:15 UTC#2109

1st post and I am looking for some hope.  I have a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS7), AVH-X7500BT with the CDIVAV202AV to get the full functionality.

I am very technically and mechanically oriented and am a big fan of pushing the envelope.  I can work with and be happy with things requiring some patience but this setup is really frustrating and dangerous.

 

I still have a window to return my items and have installed them and everything "works".  Like most, I suspect, the main reason I got this setup was for AppRadio to much more seamlessly use in-car bluetooth phone, Waze, Pandora, and iHeart Radio.  I used them all in my car via my iPhone, but wanted a safer, cooler, and more integrated setup.  For that matter, the head unit is very nice.

 

Long story short, Appradio is waaaay too buggy and clunky.  It is downright dangerous and I am heartbroken and planning on a removal and return.

 

I can't swipe scroll in Waze, (swipe scrolling is general is very laggy) playlists don't show in CarMediaPlayer or Stezza, Appradio mode drops out to blank screen or requires access acknowledge on the iPhone itself (which was the whole point of the setup).

 

What gives me hope is I did my research before I dove in and AppRadio apparently has worked rather well in the past but, being new to this, my experience has been bad.  I do not see a high level of "activity" or responsiveness on the web in regards to addressing these issues.  Further I see that Pioneer has regularly released updates and this and 2.6.1 is already a couple of weeks old- so what gives?  Where's the acknowledgment from Pioneer?  Is it just my problem?  iOS?

 

So what's the story?  Will this thing work?  Has it worked?  I have until early March to return everything and don't want to be stuck with a system that feels like a 0.9 beta and run into a tree or something worse.

 

Is there an FAQ that explains what this particular thread is about?  This (Appex) appears to be an alternate for AppRadio, and I am very interested in that.

 

Thanks!

 

Steven

Edited Feb 21, 2014 by Schweinhund
Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 17:55 UTC#2110

1st post and I am looking for some hope.  I have a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS7), AVH-X7500BT with the CDIVAV202AV to get the full functionality.

I am very technically and mechanically oriented and am a big fan of pushing the envelope.  I can work with and be happy with things requiring some patience but this setup is really frustrating and dangerous.

 

I still have a window to return my items and have installed them and everything "works".  Like most, I suspect, the main reason I got this setup was for AppRadio to much more seamlessly use in-car bluetooth phone, Waze, Pandora, and iHeart Radio.  I used them all in my car via my iPhone, but wanted a safer, cooler, and more integrated setup.  For that matter, the head unit is very nice.

 

Long story short, Appradio is waaaay too buggy and clunky.  It is downright dangerous and I am heartbroken and planning on a removal and return.

 

I can't swipe scroll in Waze, (swipe scrolling is general is very laggy) playlists don't show in CarMediaPlayer or Stezza, Appradio mode drops out to blank screen or requires access acknowledge on the iPhone itself (which was the whole point of the setup).

 

What gives me hope is I did my research before I dove in and AppRadio apparently has worked rather well in the past but, being new to this, my experience has been bad.  I do not see a high level of "activity" or responsiveness on the web in regards to addressing these issues.  Further I see that Pioneer has regularly released updates and this and 2.6.1 is already a couple of weeks old- so what gives?  Where's the acknowledgment from Pioneer?  Is it just my problem?  iOS?

 

So what's the story?  Will this thing work?  Has it worked?  I have until early March to return everything and don't want to be stuck with a system that feels like a 0.9 beta and run into a tree or something worse.

 

Is there an FAQ that explains what this particular thread is about?  This (Appex) appears to be an alternate for AppRadio, and I am very interested in that.

 

Thanks!

 

Steven

Appradio extensions(this thread) is a way to make your Appradio deck work just like your iphone/ipod.  It will have the same screen and functions as your iphone.  It basicly just puts your ios screen on the deck screen instead of using only certain pioneer apps.  Its pretty cool and actualy makes the appradio worth while.  Check out the following video to give you an idea.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1woaiMGmQ

30 seconds in is where you'll see the real functions of AppRadio Extensions

 

BTW, I will donate again if and when it works with ios 7!

Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 19:04 UTC#2111

I check this page hourly almost begging for and update to pop up

Hope theres progress will def Donate again if its gonna help push things forward any date? Good luck geniuses

Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 22:28 UTC#2112

I understand you are currently working on iso 7, but will any work be done on ios 6 anymore to fix the couple of bugs? It makes it unusable due to these bugs unfortunately. Good work either way.

Posted Feb 21, 2014 · 23:46 UTC#2113

Im sure te new ios 7 update will care for all previous ios too

 

But yes can we have a link for the previous appex as iv installed it blindly and its not working as good

Thanks

Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 18:41 UTC#2114

Mike, if you're listening, I read on your twitter "@tweakrandom Not yet. I need to figure out a new way to mirror apps to the head unit.".  Are you having problems getting the mirrored image to display or the touch input to work? I was messing with ios 7 and AP Extensions, and DisplayOut.  AP Extensions, obviously doesn't work with ios 7 but, DisplayOut does work very well with ios 7.  If you're having problems with the image mirioring, perhaps you can look in to how DisplayOut does it or use DIsplay Out with your app and simply make the touch input on the AppRadio work to the ios screen?

Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 19:46 UTC#2115

Aint been following since this has workd on my 4s

Now i upgraded realise ios 7 not compatible with apex hope theres an update soon

 

In the mean time a downgrade link will be good for previous appex as i downloaded on 4s blindly and its not as good as before

Thanks donated

 

All of the older beta's are still hosted on my website. Just take the link from the first post and change the beta number.

 

Mike, if you're listening, I read on your twitter "@tweakrandom Not yet. I need to figure out a new way to mirror apps to the head unit.".  Are you having problems getting the mirrored image to display or the touch input to work? I was messing with ios 7 and AP Extensions, and DisplayOut.  AP Extensions, obviously doesn't work with ios 7 but, DisplayOut does work very well with ios 7.  If you're having problems with the image mirioring, perhaps you can look in to how DisplayOut does it or use DIsplay Out with your app and simply make the touch input on the AppRadio work to the ios screen?

 

It's a bit more complicated than that (last I checked at least). DisplayOut works with the AppRadio by streaming the phone screen as a video to an external display. That's why you need the bypass for it to show on the head unit. When a video is displayed on the head unit, it takes control away from the running app and stops sending touch events to the device.

 

AppEx was based completely inside of the AppRadio app while it was kept running in the background. The mirrored app on the head unit was actually the AppRadio app displaying an image of the device screen. This made reading touch input much easier because it was using the actual Pioneer API and forwarding the events to the app on the device.

 

iOS 7 broke both the backgrounding and mirroring code, basically forcing us to start over.

Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 20:57 UTC#2116

 

It's a bit more complicated than that (last I checked at least). DisplayOut works with the AppRadio by streaming the phone screen as a video to an external display. That's why you need the bypass for it to show on the head unit. When a video is displayed on the head unit, it takes control away from the running app and stops sending touch events to the device.

 

AppEx was based completely inside of the AppRadio app while it was kept running in the background. The mirrored app on the head unit was actually the AppRadio app displaying an image of the device screen. This made reading touch input much easier because it was using the actual Pioneer API and forwarding the events to the app on the device.

 

iOS 7 broke both the backgrounding and mirroring code, basically forcing us to start over.

 

Darn....

 

Correct me if i'm wrong here, the compatible apps screen, inside the appradio app on the iphone, looks identical to the to the appradio app on the reciever itself(see photos).  Is it not doing the same thing as display out just adding touch?  Or did they just make it look the same?  If it is doing it the same way, is there a way to hijack it or duplicate it?

 

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Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 21:10 UTC#2117

Darn....

 

Correct me if i'm wrong here, the compatible apps screen, inside the appradio app on the iphone, looks identical to the to the appradio app on the reciever itself(see photos).  Is it not doing the same thing as display out just adding touch?  Or did they just make it look the same?  If it is doing it the same way, is there a way to hijack it or duplicate it?

 

 

DisplayOut converts the iPhone screen into a video and displays it on an external device. The AppRadio uses an iOS feature that lets apps have multiple windows, where the second window happens to be displayed on the head unit. The identical screens you see in the AppRadio app are actually two different windows with the same content (programmatically, not just a mirrored image).

Edited Feb 25, 2014 by mikedecaro
Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 21:28 UTC#2118

DisplayOut converts the iPhone screen into a video and displays it on an external device. The AppRadio uses an iOS feature that lets apps have multiple windows, where the second window happens to be displayed on the head unit. The identical screens you see in the AppRadio app are actually two different windows with the same content (programmatically, not just a mirrored image).

 

darn again... Do you have a write up somewhere about how you're doing the extension?

Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 21:37 UTC#2119

darn again... Do you have a write up somewhere about how you're doing the extension?

 

When you press an app icon on the head unit, the AppRadio app is sent to the background while remaining in an active state (similar to Backgrounder) and the new app is launched. Since the AppRadio app thinks it is active, it still displays a window on the head unit and accepts touch input. The AppRadio app then begins to capture the iPhone's screen and displays it in the window on the head unit. The touch input is rerouted to app on the iPhone screen.

Posted Feb 25, 2014 · 21:44 UTC#2120

When you press an app icon on the head unit, the AppRadio app is sent to the background while remaining in an active state (similar to Backgrounder) and the new app is launched. Since the AppRadio app thinks it is active, it still displays a window on the head unit and accepts touch input. The AppRadio app then begins to capture the iPhone's screen and displays it in the window on the head unit. The touch input is rerouted to app on the iPhone screen.

Hello Mike, have you test "background manage" in ios 7 ? for me is better than backgrounder.... more possibility. 

Posted Feb 26, 2014 · 09:48 UTC#2121

 Hello Mike,

 

So you are saying the appraido app with app ex was basically streaming the screen similar to using a remote app to your computer? Like team viewer or VNC?

 

Maybe you could make an appex allow you to connect to your Ipod/Iphone using a browser that would get you passed the touch portion because you are running everything in the web browser that is authorized. Is there already a remote server app that can be placed on the iphone? since you are essentially connecting to yourself it would be rather quick. I was trying to figure out how to make my Iphone 4 auto mirror my iphone 5 to the appraido.  GL with the project maybe "IOS in the Car" will come out and work with appraido or allow you to make your app work.

 

Edit:

 

Veency does it but I can not get it to connect with a web browser like the real VNC for computers.

Edited Feb 26, 2014 by Kalika
Posted Feb 26, 2014 · 12:07 UTC#2122

Ok so why all the arm chair developers here? You'd think the man knows what does and doesn't work here so lets let him do what he does and be patient. Im sure if all these suggestions were possible it would already work.

Edited Feb 26, 2014 by VBLUE42
Posted Feb 26, 2014 · 12:11 UTC#2123

Ok so why all the arm chair developers here? You'd think the man knows what does and doesn't work here so lets let him do what he does and be patient. Im sure if all these suggestions were possible it would already work.

Hey looks like your a dick head for no reason... Maybe he/they are stuck and need a view from the outside. Either way you got so many posts cause you are the king of the trolls quit being a cunt all the time..

Posted Feb 26, 2014 · 12:19 UTC#2124

Hey looks like your a dick head for no reason... Maybe he/they are stuck and need a view from the outside. Either way you got so many posts cause you are the king of the trolls quit being a cunt all the time..

You use vulgarity at anyone else on this forum and you won't be here any longer. The point I am making is that all of these suggestions are obvious to someone that knows what they are doing as he obviously does. There is nothing more irritating then someone who has no clue as to what goes into something like this, try and give suggestions to someone that does. And if you have a clue, you should be on his team helping make this happen. You guys are acting like this is taking to long. Remember he is doing this on his own time and for FREE! Let the man do what he does. When its ready, if it ever is, he will let us know. Now, you don't have to like what I am saying or how Im saying it. But you do have to maintain respect to other members on this forum.

Posted Feb 26, 2014 · 12:51 UTC#2125

Accepting donations to me is not as you put it FREE!! it is doing to for hella cheap.  All the Obvious suggestions are not always obvious to the person that they should be. 
 

 

When you press an app icon on the head unit, the AppRadio app is sent to the background while remaining in an active state (similar to Backgrounder) and the new app is launched. Since the AppRadio app thinks it is active, it still displays a window on the head unit and accepts touch input. The AppRadio app then begins to capture the iPhone's screen and displays it in the window on the head unit. The touch input is rerouted to app on the iPhone screen.

 

Basically says he was doing what VNC or Veency does, with-in the Appraido app maybe he never considered running it inside the web browser.  Or maybe he is not a network engineer and never considered having the commands issued over a network connection circumventing the pioneer completely. 

Edited Feb 26, 2014 by Kalika
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