Firmware is up!!!! I'm downloading it now!

Great.  However, why can't this unit run the iPod source mode along with AppRadio mode?  Why is it that I need to use the CarMediaPlayer app?  Is the audio still bluetooth streaming from the phone to the head unit?  I thought the CD-IH202 cable carried the iPod controls and audio like the old 30-pin days.  Is this not the case anymore?

The iPod app can not be used with the i5 as mentioned in the requirements to use the unit with an i5. CarMediaPlayer is your new iPod app.

The resizing isn't working correctly on a few apps I've noticed already.  Waze scrunches everything down, almost like a widescreen format.  CAr media player has a menu bar on the bottom that's halfway cut off.

This thing should be called CrappRadio.  I did the update today and
cannot tell you how unimpressed I am with this.  Why the Ipod controls has
to be an app is absolutely ridiculous.  Takes forever to get this thing
going.  Between all the connecting and allowing it is very
cumbersome.  I find myself constantly restarting the AppRadio app on the
phone since it gets stupid when too many things are running and constantly
hitting allow.  Now I know there is a jailbreak (I think) to remove this
allow screen but I'll have to investigate it more.

Once it is running, however, only half of the apps I loaded on the phone
actually work.

1. Car Media Player – Works
2. CommuteWX – Works but no animated radar
3. Inrix – Works (but flakey sometimes)
4. Waze – Works (can be flakey too)
5. iHeart Radio – needs input from phone and doesn’t
   resize properly
6. MotionX – only works from phone – not head unit
7. Car Browser – flashes for a sec and goes away –won’t run
8. Best Parking – only works on phone – doesn’t show on head unit
9. Calendar – works
10. Maps – works

Note that location services need to be on for some of these
apps to work and Pandora and aHa work as a source under MODE.  How I wish the damn iPod functions worked as
a source under MODE.  I may sell the iPhone
5 and switch back to a 30-pin cable to use with my iPod Touch 4^th
Gen. and forget about this.  I’ll give it
a few more weeks to see if there is another update to correct some of this junk
but I’m really pissed off for spending money on the phone and waiting for this
crap to be released.  I wanted to get
cutting edge technology I guess and I all got was cut!

2. Works for me.

5. Works for me.

6. Limitation of app, not radio.

7. Works for me.

8. Works for me

These may be symptoms of incorrect update process. Try the update process again. Good luck.

Iheart is useless for me. It doesn't resize and looks zoomed in too much.

Waze is working ok.

Motion x doesn't work at all. It won't resize or display info.

Media player works fine, but is the cheapest, crappiest design ever in my opinion.

Nav free doesn't work and I think that was the app pioneer claimed was holding up the release.

I haven't tried other apps, but am so far very unimpressed.

2. Works for me.

5. Works for me.

6. Limitation of app, not radio.

7. Works for me.

8. Works for me

 

These may be symptoms of incorrect update process. Try the update process again. Good luck.

Incorrect update process?  Not quite following.  Re-update w/iTunes and sync?

Also, you're usiing the AppRadio 2 if I recall.  Do you think that would make a difference vs. these nav units with Appradio built in?  I know they have different firmware updates for the appropriate head unit.

PS:  Did you mention something about jailbreaking to get rid of the allow prompt?

Thanks.

I am referring to the firmware update. Try it again.

And yes I do have an AR2. Similar issues have been reported with the AR2 if the update process is not done correctly.

If you jailbreak your device and install App Radio Extensions it will remove the allow prompt.

I am referring to the firmware update. Try it again.

 

And yes I do have an AR2. Similar issues have been reported with the AR2 if the update process is not done correctly.

 

If you jailbreak your device and install App Radio Extensions it will remove the allow prompt.

Well I did check the version info before and after it was v.1.00 and then it became v.1.03 but I guess I can run it again to see if that will help.

PS:  My iPhone 5 is still at iOS 6.1 (I won't update to v.6.1.3).  I should be able to jailbreak it???  Also, where can I d/l the AR extensions?  Sorry for the noob questions but I'm not an iOS guy and this is my first go around with this.

Thanks.

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/34188-appradio-extensions-20-beta-full-iphone-control/page-1

Great. However, why can't this unit run the iPod source mode along with AppRadio mode? Why is it that I need to use the CarMediaPlayer app? Is the audio still bluetooth streaming from the phone to the head unit? I thought the CD-IH202 cable carried the iPod controls and audio like the old 30-pin days. Is this not the case anymore?

You could always use this cable instead, with a 30 pin to lightning adapter. No Appradio, but it looks like that's not so hot anyways. And you get the iPod in the source menu.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/iPod-and-iPhone-Cables/CD-IU201V

You could always use this cable instead, with a 30 pin to lightning adapter. No Appradio, but it looks like that's not so hot anyways. And you get the iPod in the source menu.

 

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/iPod-and-iPhone-Cables/CD-IU201V

I may go this route if App Radio Mode still performs the way it is now.  I'm sick and tired of constantly having to constantly re-pair, kill running apps, unplug the phone (lightning adapter), hitting allow (haven't JB w/AR Extensions yet), etc. to get this phone to connect.  Everytime I shut the car off and turn it back on, I have to go through 90 steps just to get the head unit to recognize the phone again.  Very annoying.  I think the jailbreak part with AR extensions is only going to solve half of the issues because in addition to the allow thing, it doesn't always launch the AR app on it's own.  Ii have to initiate it from tthe phone itself and the way I have it all mounted is hidden in the glove box.  i don't want the phone on a stand next to the HU.

VBLUE42-  I tried to re-install the firmware update and I am still getting the same results with the apps I listed in the previous post.  Some work and some don't.  Maybe that remedy worked with the AR2 but unfortunately it didn't help for AR within these NAV units.  Oh well...  I'm hoping for a future update from either the app vendors or Pioneer (not sure who at this point).

Well I can tell you that I have owned all high end navis from Pioneer and Kenwood sense 2006 ending with the Z120BT and the DNX 9960 and they all had stubborn issues like you are describing. And there are loads of post on this forum and Kenwood forums of similar issues for follow up units. Although the AR2 is not perfect it is very close. I rarely have a stubborn issue that causes me to find a workaround or causes me to do something a second time to get it to work. I certainly recommend swapping the unit you have now for an AR2. You will get more capabilities, better options of each capability, and save a lot of money.

At this point, I may just go back to the 30-pin connector and use the old standalone iPod for music.  This technology is not ready for prime time.  I'll give it a few more weeks with jailbreaks, etc. but I don't want to give that company another dime.  If they managed to get most of the AR2 up and running, why not these NAV head units?  They too are running AR so it doesn't make sense unless the firmware is REALLY THAT DIFFERENT between the two and they just need to catch up with the NAV verisons.  eBay is starting to look like the way out for me (if need be).

Two different design teams between units with the navi team "borrowing" the AR design. This kind of thing is common with these Japanese companies. And the AR wasn't flawless when it was released. The root of the software problems with all of these Japanese head unit manufactures is the third rate Chinese software programers they use.

Two different design teams between units with the navi team "borrowing" the AR design. This kind of thing is common with these Japanese companies. And the AR wasn't flawless when it was released. The root of the software problems with all of these Japanese head unit manufactures is the third rate Chinese software programers they use.

I guess that would explain it.  Well, let's see if they catch up otherwsie it's not worth all the headaches!

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/34188-appradio-extensions-20-beta-full-iphone-control/page-1

Gonna try this tonight if I get some time.  Will do the JB and then install a Cydia app to quickly kill all running apps as that seems to help AppRadio (give the old Hello {your phone name} prompt).

Mike insists on installing all three dependencies for Appradio Extensions: MobileSubstrate, PreferenceLoader, AppList.  Am I to assume that these three items are available on Cydia as well (or within Mike's repo)?  Not sure as this is my first shot at this.

Thanks.

They should install automatically when you install AppEx.

OK.  I finally did the JB on the phone and installed AppEx 2.0.1-173.  Will test it with the radio tomorrow.  I'm assuming the Bypass Launch Alert should be set to Allow for that annoying prompt?  I'm also curious to find out how many unsupported apps will actually work on the X950BH now.  Wouldn't it be funny if the "Supported Apps" that don't load normally (if at all) will NOW work with this tweak installed?  I'm hoping...

Well, the AppEx definately fixed the Allow issue which was the main thing for me.  It's worth its weight in gold just for that feature.  As for supported apps that didn't work for me, they still don't.  As for unsupported apps, only a handfull work OK.  If I were to run the Stocks App for example and force landscape mode, I can't get out of it and back to home.  I need to manually kill the app on the phone.  It gets stuck re-launching the same stock app in landscape mode.  Oh well... maybe in time swipe gestures, returning to home on all apps, and other things like that will be resolved by Mike.  As for now, the whole system is still a buggy mess but it is much more manageable now that AppEx is installed as it doesn't ask me to allow every other time I hit the App Radio button on the head unit.

I know this is a 950 thread but my 940 cunundrum is related.

Right now I run a jailbroken iPod 4G running ios 6.3 (redsnow partially tethered but it is stable and I only have to reboot for some

Apple software upgrades). Anyway, when I first started using StreamS HiFi it would not fill the screen properly and was shifted to the right as if the aspect was only meant to run on the larger 7" Appradio screen. Then, when I installed EC Touch, Stream S resized itself for some reason and now properly fills the smaller 6.1" screen of the 940 and EC Touch is also the correct size.

Tonight, I decided to try my wife's IPhone 4S unjailbroken with my 940 to see if it was quicker than the IPod 4G (which it seems to be). I installed Appradio on her phone along with StreamS HiFi and EC touch to see how they worked. Well, on her phone, StreamS is back to the wonky screen aspect and so now is EC Touch but if I plug my IPod Touch back in, everything is fine again.

Any ideas as to why my IPod Touch magically now runs with the correct screen sizes but the 4S won't? Not sure if the Touch being jailbroken has any impact or not.

I am in the same boat. I purchases the X950BH and the cable kit and cannot get the my iphone to be recognized for playing music or app mode. Guess we will have to wait for firmware to come out. Spent an hour on the phone for Pioneer tech support and they were clueless once they answered.

Hey TechUnplugged, check this out for me if you would. Verify that your lightning to HDMI works the same as mine:

When plugged into the phone, and HDMI only (say to a HDTV) video output works fine. You can see your iPhone screen on your HDTV

When plugged into the phone, and another lightning cable it plugged in (but not the HDMI) it will pass CHARGE from your computer, but wont SYNC to iTunes.

That is how mine works. Is this HOW its suppose to work? No data over lightning via the pass through? If so, then how is the AVIC getting its data, from the bluetooth setup the same way the older APPRADIOs do?

I am wondering if my lightning to HDMI adapter is bad since it only passes power via lightning and no data. If yours is the same though, it may just be an AVIC firmware issue.

 

Also does your AVIC x950 connect using Pandora on the screen? Mine doesnt, it remains greyed out.

when you say that the cable will not sync to itunes are you using a OEM apple lightning cable. if not that is your problem.

the iphone 5 update is out now for the 950bh. i just update waiting on cable to show up. i have some aftermarket cables that are for my iphone 5 that will charge but not sync. the cables are propriatary with a chip in them

This thing should be called CrappRadio.  I did the update today and

cannot tell you how unimpressed I am with this.  Why the Ipod controls has

to be an app is absolutely ridiculous.  Takes forever to get this thing

going.  Between all the connecting and allowing it is very

cumbersome.  I find myself constantly restarting the AppRadio app on the

phone since it gets stupid when too many things are running and constantly

hitting allow.  Now I know there is a jailbreak (I think) to remove this

allow screen but I'll have to investigate it more.

 

Once it is running, however, only half of the apps I loaded on the phone

actually work.

1. Car Media Player – Works
2. CommuteWX – Works but no animated radar
3. Inrix – Works (but flakey sometimes)
4. Waze – Works (can be flakey too)
5. iHeart Radio – needs input from phone and doesn’t

   resize properly

6. MotionX – only works from phone – not head unit
7. Car Browser – flashes for a sec and goes away –won’t run
8. Best Parking – only works on phone – doesn’t show on head unit
9. Calendar – works
10. Maps – works

Note that location services need to be on for some of these

apps to work and Pandora and aHa work as a source under MODE.  How I wish the damn iPod functions worked as

a source under MODE.  I may sell the iPhone

5 and switch back to a 30-pin cable to use with my iPod Touch 4^th

Gen. and forget about this.  I’ll give it

a few more weeks to see if there is another update to correct some of this junk

but I’m really pissed off for spending money on the phone and waiting for this

crap to be released.  I wanted to get

cutting edge technology I guess and I all got was cut!

Going back a month to my original post here.  I still cannot get the above apps that didn't work before to work now.  Anybody else with a NAV series HU such as the X950BH have any luck with these apps?  These apps may work fine on the actual AppRadio such as the SPA series but absolutely do not load or resize properly on my AVIC series so I'm wondering what the consensus is with people that have the NAV models (not the SPA series).  Trying to figure out if it's a global problem with the NAV units or just my setup although I can't see how that's possible since I have an iPhone 5 with the AVIC-X950BH and I have had the same problems before the jailbreak and after including loading AppEx.

Thanks.

The apps you listed perform in the same way on my unit. Mostly resizing glitches or crashing all together. Its not just your setup.

I would also like to add that when switching from app to app and dropping out of app mode back to radio, or built in navigation, sometimes appradio apps dont restore properly, resulting in resize issues or a black non touchable screen.

I have to quit the apps on my iphone and relaunch. That tells me its on the app developers problem more than Pioneers (I am looking at you Waze, iHeart,  DashCommand *which also drops bluetooth connection to odbII frequently when switching between apps*). With the exception of CarBrowser (which is Opera reskinned) all of the Pioneer apps work quite well. 

My problems with AppRadio on the x950?

The above Applications having issues (thats the App developers problem)

iOS nagging me for "allow this app to open" all the @#$@ time (cant jailbreak my phone due to company security policies... and I need it for work more than my car)

The only Pioneer app giving me grief is CarBrowser.

The only DESIGN issue I have is not being able to make a bluetooth phone call while using the touch screen in AppRadio. Not sure if that will ever be "fixable".