it will be fine to run the update now you just won't have full bypass until the you do the wiring.

How do I ground the second pin?

How do I ground the second pin?

Follow my instructions for wire #2

http://www.sminntech.com/z1flash.html#newbypass

even after I updated post #1 with some big font.

Wow, that was a big font..... no one will see it, but it's a good attempt.... They won't PM you they just PM me.

ok i got hold of 1 of the 180 in the us, if you run this disc in a non bypassable z2 it will upgrade old z2 software to new z2 software and make it bypassable

ok i got hold of 1 of the 180 in the us, if you run this disc in a non bypassable z2 it will upgrade old z2 software to new z2 software and make it bypassable

Yeah, we know...

hyperite and whoever else assisted him, thanks. I can also confirm it works. I just replaced my Z2 that had been stolen. I had the shop wire it up and do the bypass. I then left and did the update.

I had no issues with the update, smoooooth as silk. I did burn the disk at 4x (SLOW) as I read some posts about CD issues. Forgot about the need to reset and had the annoying brake message. After I got back and checked the thread again, I saw that the reset was to clear that warning. Presto, Brake error is now GONE!

I have all of the controls while driving, which is what I was after. I did not test the DVD play as it's not an item I want, need or recommend using. Keep your eyes on the road.

Thanks again.

-M

Does anyone know what Pioneer harness the Z2 bypass socket uses? I would like to buy this harness.

My installer did not do a good job of grounding the "cell phone mute" wire. I looked at the harness and, due to factory amp, NONE of the other wires on this harness were used. ONLY the bypass wire was even hooked up. So, for me, I have the option to just get a new harness and better secure the wire. For now, I slipped the mute wire directly on the terminal and taped it up, no harness at all. I found some pictures of pioneer harnesses at installer.com http://www.installer.com/wires/pioneerwire.html

Does anyone know which harness I am looking for?

By the way. I unlocked my hard drive and now have 3-4 hard drives that I am testing. I am a computer science major in college and am pushing forward with various hacks on this unit. First thing I have to is find a hard drive that works without random reboots. I have tried 2 5400rpm drives so far, picking up 2 more today. Thanks to all the hard work of the various Z1/Z2 contributors. Hopefully, I can contribute more hacks for this very nice head unit.

The one linked below. It looks nothing like the ones in your pictures, much smaller

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/par ... um=CDE8084

Does anyone know what Pioneer harness the Z2 bypass socket uses? I would like to buy this harness.

 

My installer did not do a good job of grounding the "cell phone mute" wire. I looked at the harness and, due to factory amp, NONE of the other wires on this harness were used. ONLY the bypass wire was even hooked up. So, for me, I have the option to just get a new harness and better secure the wire. For now, I slipped the mute wire directly on the terminal and taped it up, no harness at all. I found some pictures of pioneer harnesses at installer.com http://www.installer.com/wires/pioneerwire.html

Does anyone know which harness I am looking for?

I picked up some high density female pins for RS232 (serial port), some 22 gauge solid wire and heat shrink tubing. Gonna try a permanent grounding tomorrow.

I have successfully replaced the hard drive with 5400rpm with no lockups or reboots.

I installed the Z2 last weekend and the bypass worked without any problems, at first try. Thanks again!

Not really thrilled with the 'Quality' of the Avic Z2 though, but that is another issue.

I reset mine after the update and i still get the brake warning everytime i start my car

Forgot about the need to reset and had the annoying brake message. After I got back and checked the thread again, I saw that the reset was to clear that warning. Presto, Brake error is now GONE!

 

Thanks again.

-M

it sounds like it was not bypassed properly. check your wiring.

its bypassed correctly. the bypass works fine but i get the stupid brake warning only when i 1st start my car

it sounds like it was not bypassed properly. check your wiring.

its bypassed correctly. the bypass works fine but i get the stupid brake warning only when i 1st start my car

 

it sounds like it was not bypassed properly. check your wiring.

Reset the unit. If the warning mesg comes back then the by-pass is not correct.

its bypassed correctly. the bypass works fine but i get the stupid brake warning only when i 1st start my car

 

it sounds like it was not bypassed properly. check your wiring.

"bypassed correctly" only works as a description if you are moving and everything still works. It's not bypassed correctly if it's locked out while moving.

If it's UNLOCKED while stopped but it's LOCKED while moving it's not BYPASSED. The bypass will have it unlocked all the time. Don't mean to be a stickler for definitions but it will help everyone understand what's going on and possibly point you in the direction of the solution.

If you have access to stuff while stationary but not while moving it's 1 of 2 things:

1. you didn't load the hyperite iso disk in there but you grounded both wires you were supposed to.

OR

2. the update ISO is loaded correctly, but when you grounded the wires, the parking brake sense wire is grounded but you did not ground the "second" wire in connector 2.

Just a note to all on the bypass. I had 10 customers with 1st gen z2's and updated all of them successfully I ending up using alcohol 120 to burn image and it woked great. Thanks to all. If anyone cannot get the image done properly or doesnt want to spend the money on an image burner. 10 bucks and i will do one for u and send you a copy.

Ducati im not trying to be an ass but im an mecp certified 1st class installer and have been installing since i was 15 and im 33 now, i know the difference between locked out and not. all my functions work while im driving and the unit is completely bypassed. i did one more reset and now the warning went away. but please dont make me out to be stupid, because it seemed like thats what u guys are trying to say. sorry for the rant and keep up the good work

I installed the update and performed the bypass correctly. The unit worked with no problem. I drove around for a little than I parked at my friend's house, shut the truck off but kept the radio playing. When I restarted the truck the Z2 was just stuck on the Pioneer Splash screen for a while. I hit reset and it still remained on the splash screen for a while again. I turned the truck off and back on again and performed a reset and its working again. My question to you guys is will this be something I have to deal with alot of do you think that it was just that one time.

Its got nothing to do with the update. You need a new unit. Pioneer is aware of this and I have seen a few units do this prior to the update.

Ducati im not trying to be an ass but im an mecp certified 1st class installer and have been installing since i was 15 and im 33 now, i know the difference between locked out and not. all my functions work while im driving and the unit is completely bypassed. i did one more reset and now the warning went away. but please dont make me out to be stupid, because it seemed like thats what u guys are trying to say. sorry for the rant and keep up the good work

Well, not to be an ass either, but I really don't care about your credentials. And I was not trying to make you out to be stupid. I have had 100's of PM's and emails from people with way more experience than you (or at least claimed as much as you did) who couldn't figure out what's wrong with this bypass or needed help with this bypass. I'm sorry if you didn't like my response, but that was due to a very short and less than descriptive post. Now that I read this one and go back and re-read the last one, I understand what your problem was. I guess I didn't back then.

But don't feel too bad, people with way more experience and more history installing things in cars have more trouble than you do. You are by far not the only one who has issues and needed help to resolve them.

But I have been dealing with trying to help people here for ages and if I was confused with what you posted, then chances are others were too. Sorry you had to try not to be an ass.

Just a note to all on the bypass. I had 10 customers with 1st gen z2's and updated all of them successfully I ending up using alcohol 120 to burn image and it woked great. Thanks to all. If anyone cannot get the image done properly or doesnt want to spend the money on an image burner. 10 bucks and i will do one for u and send you a copy.

10 bucks for free softare on a cd that cost maybe 25 bucks for a pack of 100? Thats a rip off.