iPhones do have AVRCP (as of iphone 3G I think), the AVRCP allows basic functions like Next Track, Last Track, Play, Pause and some basic browsing.  It is this AVRCP functionality that allows Track Skip/Pause of Pandora over BT when the source is "BTAudio".  When the source is "Pandora" SPP (Serial Port Profile) is required for interface over BT.  Apple iOS does not support SPP, iPhones will need to be wired and will not interface over BT.  I think it is SPP that opens up the more advanced two-way communication allowing access to station lists, thumbs up and thumbs down.

 

Excellent point. It's probably been too long since that has been pointed out. For Pandora, Aha and other advanced playback, iPhones/Pods need to be "wired" and the App Connection needs to be also set to Wired. Of course, you'll still need BT pairing for phone calls.

I tend to forget this since I only use an iPod (wired) for my music library and everything else comes through my Android Nexus 5.

The 2015 link on dropbox (post #12) appears to be dead. Anyone have a different link?

EDIT: downloaded the newer version from post #84 and did the CIF change on post #140 and all is well

Thanks to all involved making this update possible. Updated my x930BT without issues.

 

First, I assume it worked the way you expected (Pandora) before the upgrade. Now - what device are you running Pandora from? I expect it not an iPod (which I'm guessing is wired). If you are, how is it getting broadband internet access while you're driving? Or did you mean iPhone instead of iPod?

The reason I ask is - on an iPhone, Pandora only works with the Settings / AV Settings / App Connection set to "Wired".

 

Of course, maybe, like me, you use an iPod for stored music and an Android phone for BT internet audio streaming and Pandora. In which case, make sure Settings / AV Settings / App Connection is set to "Bluetooth".

 

my setting are grayed out cannot set setting to BT, going to try to disconnect battery to see if that will work.   the update seem to work. also my Ipod is not being detected.

hi guys I have disconnected battery and have recovered control of my iPod, my lg g3 phone connects and is paired, but when I go to av setting/ app connection I cannot select wired or bt I do not have access any ideas

another quick question when I goto service info all i see is version 6.0 then device # there is no other info, tried touching corners and holding to see if anything come but no luck. previous version there was platform version Bt version etc. is this normal for this build. this update was put on avix x940bt thanks in advance

Hey there, I see this has been covered really well and extensively. However I recently got the 2015 maps and updated that and the bt firmware to the 3.32. Well now I have that problem the others have.

I tried the battery disconnect and the hu reset. My bt audio only plays out of my phone while i can still control pandora from the hu. On my galaxy s5 if i open up the bt settings it wont let me slide the media audio to on. 

What am I missing? I have read through all this and did exactly what was described. I formatted the sd, i unzipped the files copied them to the sd. I erased the text from the cfi file and copied the new text. When I load the sd into the avic z140 nothing happens. If I dont edit the text and leave the file as is, it loads and asks if i want to update. I edited the text in the sublime text editor. It says its a cfi file. I have tried 100 times formatting the sd and trying again and again. I made sure it said 300 bytes.

thanks nate

Hey there, I see this has been covered really well and extensively. However I recently got the 2015 maps and updated that and the bt firmware to the 3.32. Well now I have that problem the others have.

I tried the battery disconnect and the hu reset. My bt audio only plays out of my phone while i can still control pandora from the hu. On my galaxy s5 if i open up the bt settings it wont let me slide the media audio to on. 

 

What am I missing? I have read through all this and did exactly what was described. I formatted the sd, i unzipped the files copied them to the sd. I erased the text from the cfi file and copied the new text. When I load the sd into the avic z140 nothing happens. If I dont edit the text and leave the file as is, it loads and asks if i want to update. I edited the text in the sublime text editor. It says its a cfi file. I have tried 100 times formatting the sd and trying again and again. I made sure it said 300 bytes.

 

thanks nate

Only modify CardInfo.CIF if you have a Z110, Z120, or X920. In the 1st sentence you say you updated to 2015.  So you must of done it right at least once. You're done. AFA Pandora and BT audio, make sure the App Connection setting is set to BT. You might want to re-pair the BT connection. 

Only modify CardInfo.CIF if you have a Z110, Z120, or X920. In the 1st sentence you say you updated to 2015.  So you must of done it right at least once. You're done. AFA Pandora and BT audio, make sure the App Connection setting is set to BT. You might want to re-pair the BT connection. 

Well I bought the update from ebay but after installed it, thats when i found this forum and for some reason i thought that the cif file was to fix the bt problem. In my av settings on my HU the only option i have for app connection is ipod or others. I have reset the HU many times the demo mode came on and everything. Had to select all the things like if it was brand new. I'm at my wits end on this thing. I have reinstalled the bt fw 3.32 and that resets the bt. I have cleared the bt cache on my galaxy s5. I have re-paired the bt connection a dozen times and still nothing. On my phone the phone audio slider is on but i cannot get the the media audio slider to stay on. I'm sure i'm overlooking something, but when I first got the HU all this stuff worked right away and I had no issues. I should never have updated my bt.

I'm at my wits end on this thing. I have reinstalled the bt fw 3.32 and that resets the bt. I have cleared the bt cache on my galaxy s5. I have re-paired the bt connection a dozen times and still nothing. On my phone the phone audio slider is on but i cannot get the the media audio slider to stay on. I'm sure i'm overlooking something, but when I first got the HU all this stuff worked right away and I had no issues. I should never have updated my bt.

IIRC there have been similar problems reported here with the Galaxy S5 after upgrading. I think it started with the 2013 version (which is the same BT files as 2015). So maybe there was some incompatibility between the S5 software and last Pioneer (Parrot) BT. You might look for those threads. I think some people fell back to the older BT software - I forgot what version. If you can find the older files you can install them the same way through the BT settings menu.

I was having some BT audio connection problems after the 2013 update. I have a Nexus 5. But it cleared up after newer releases of Android. I'm on v6.xx now and my only BT problem is re-connecting to a BT source when I start the car. It seems to timeout waiting for the phone connection. It doesn't happen every time.  I just need to wait for the phone to reconnect then toggle to a non-BY source and back.

Another option (if you feel comfortable hacking your phone) is to install a custom Android ROM on your phone. The xda site (link) has several S5 ported Android v6.xx ROMs with many customizations and features. Now guaranty but that may solve your problem.

IIRC there have been similar problems reported here with the Galaxy S5 after upgrading. I think it started with the 2013 version (which is the same BT files as 2015). So maybe there was some incompatibility between the S5 software and last Pioneer (Parrot) BT. You might look for those threads. I think some people fell back to the older BT software - I forgot what version. If you can find the older files you can install them the same way through the BT settings menu.

 

I was having some BT audio connection problems after the 2013 update. I have a Nexus 5. But it cleared up after newer releases of Android. I'm on v6.xx now and my only BT problem is re-connecting to a BT source when I start the car. It seems to timeout waiting for the phone connection. It doesn't happen every time.  I just need to wait for the phone to reconnect then toggle to a non-BY source and back.

 

Another option (if you feel comfortable hacking your phone) is to install a custom Android ROM on your phone. The xda site (link) has several S5 ported Android v6.xx ROMs with many customizations and features. Now guaranty but that may solve your problem.

So..How about a way easier method. Pioneer on the phone told me (a blatant lie) that it was impossible to revert the bt fw back to 3.24.

I just found a post on here titled "z140bh Bluetooth audio problem". There's a link to download a 2.3 gig file containing the 2012 software including the the bt fw 3.24. It worked I just did it and now i am so relieved that i don't have to go out and spend $1k plus for a new HU. Not having something work drives me insane. I guess I'm ocd that way. I have the need to fix things and make things work lol...That post has great instructions. Super easy. Get this info out there...and the name of the file is cnsd-310fm

My pandora is controlled from the HU and plays through my truck speakers again. 

So..How about a way easier method. Pioneer on the phone told me (a blatant lie) that it was impossible to revert the bt fw back to 3.24.

I just found a post on here titled "z140bh Bluetooth audio problem". There's a link to download a 2.3 gig file containing the 2012 software including the the bt fw 3.24. It worked I just did it and now i am so relieved that i don't have to go out and spend $1k plus for a new HU. Not having something work drives me insane. I guess I'm ocd that way. I have the need to fix things and make things work lol...That post has great instructions. Super easy. Get this info out there...and the name of the file is cnsd-310fm

 

My pandora is controlled from the HU and plays through my truck speakers again. 

Great news. I am assuming you just updated the BT using CNSD-310FM's v3.24. and are still running 2015 maps?  BTW, I'm sure that the out-sourced 1st tier tech support is just reading from a script. They don't know jack and if your problem isn't trivial they are no help.

Great news. I am assuming you just updated the BT using CNSD-310FM's v3.24. and are still running 2015 maps?  BTW, I'm sure that the out-sourced 1st tier tech support is just reading from a script. They don't know jack and if your problem isn't trivial they are no help.

Yes still running the 2015 maps with no other problems to report. 

Thank you for all the time and effort everyone has put into this.  RonS, kellinaradway and BlakeStone have gone above and beyond.

I haven't been able to update my x930bt to the 2015 maps yet because the links time out for me but I'll keep trying.  I've been trying for 2 days now but the download usually stops at ~160MB.  I've been up to ~250 MB on a couple of occasions but the download just stops and says it is complete.

Great news. I am assuming you just updated the BT using CNSD-310FM's v3.24. and are still running 2015 maps?  BTW, I'm sure that the out-sourced 1st tier tech support is just reading from a script. They don't know jack and if your problem isn't trivial they are no help.

Will this work for x940bt unit??

Will this work for x940bt unit??

Don't see why not. 

I have a Z150BH.

After thoroughly reading this topic, I am still a bit confused as to whether this will work with mine.

I have downloaded the Map file from #84, and the CARDInfo from #140.

Should I or shouldn't I test if this works?

Or do I run a chance of bricking my unit?

I have a Z150BH.

 

After thoroughly reading this topic, I am still a bit confused as to whether this will work with mine.

I have downloaded the Map file from #84, and the CARDInfo from #140.

 

Should I or shouldn't I test if this works?

Or do I run a chance of bricking my unit?

Thanks

The one in this thread won't work on a Z150. Take a look here 2016-maps-are-out-for-avic-x950bh-avic-x850bt-avic-x8510bt-avic-z150bh

RonS (or anyone who knows),

My understanding, please correct me if you think/know I'm wrong, is that the data files can be updated but the system files (a.k.a. the firmware) cannot* because the processor is different between the two units.  I do not know** if the data files are different or dependent on the firmware but am really curious to know.  Any insight greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Reference (this is an old video and not directly related to these units but is the fruit of my understanding):

* Without major work.

** I may try this myself to know but am being lazy now.

All this Z150, X950 (anything ending in 50) stuff is off topic for this thread. It's cluttered-up enough. There are already a couple threads for these units. So please use those.

Bitmap, that video doesn't really mean much here since it refers to a much older model (x710) which runs totally different application (iGo). AFA the x50 units, I have no knowledge, but I would not assume that you could install just maps. Beyond that, I'll stay out of this effort. Good luck.

So is there a 2016 map update for the Z120 yet? Thanks Chuck

awesome worked like a charm on my x920bt.  Thanks everyone!

I'm a new forum member and this is my first post. I just wanted to say thanks to RonS and all who have provided content, info and help on these upgrades and this thread.

Here is the nag screen hack for this release (v6.0)

 

Apply this binary patch to /USER/PRGn*/APL/NAVI.EXE 

 

at offset 0xBEC64  

change 05 00 00 0A   to   00 00 A0 E1

 

*See below for the correct path to the file for your unit.

 

Note: do not install the upgrade with the edited file on the SD. If you do, the installation will fail. After it is successfully installed, you can use a copy of the one on the SD (in UPDATE\USER\PRG\APL) to patch, then use a separate SD with testmode.key and the patched NAVI.EXE on it to update your unit. I recommend not modifying the file on your installation SD.

 

This is dangerous - especially for noobies. Make a backup of any files you change - in fact making a backup of all files under \USER is a good idea.

 

* there are two \USER\PRG directories on your HU. The active one is indicated by the presence or absence of a file named \USER\PRG.FLG

If this file is not present, the active files are in \USER\PRG0\APL. Otherwise, the active files are in \USER\PRG1\APL

I Rons,

i tried to find the offset on my Navi.exe file (F940BT) freshly updated with 2015 files, but this offset doesn' exist.

Any idea on pointing me how to remove the nag message?

in fact will write a bigger post as i got several issues on this unit as

1) i cannot enter the seting (greied) = brake green cable is grounded and the mute wire relocation doesn't work

2) I do not know where to copy my speedcam file in this damned unit !

Anyway on thing at a time.

Thanks a lot for your help.