Hi! If I have an F940, can I install these maps instead of the EU ones?

Thanks!

Don't know. You could try and let us know. No harm if it won't install. But you probably would need the CardInfo file from the F series F40/F940 release. Be aware it won't change the DVD region and probably will keep the EU FM radio frequencies (which isn't  a big deal since US only uses odd (ie 99.5, 99.7...)

Worked perfectly on z130 with shortfuse script. Thank you, Paypal contribution on the way.

anyone try this on a x920/z110/z120 yet?

RonS: are the DLLs the same? Can I in theory take my patched (working) dll from you and use it on a x920? I have a friend who wants to do this on his x920 and he keeps telling me his prg folders dont have the DLL.. was wondering if he could copy yours over, then do the install. If so, I will have him try with the cif you posted

Ok I just don't get it.   I have tried this 4 times now and still I am unable to get it to work.  I'm using two SD Cards, one for the script and the other for the 2017 update.  The one with the script does its thing then says done, insert upgrade.  I then put in the update card and nothing happens.  Now when I did the 2013 upgrade it went smooth as silk.  But the 2017 is being a problem child for me.  Any suggestions?

    Ok I just don't get it.   I have tried this 4 times now and still I am unable to get it to work.  I'm using two SD Cards, one for the script and the other for the 2017 update.  The one with the script does its thing then says done, insert upgrade.  I then put in the update card and nothing happens.  Now when I did the 2013 upgrade it went smooth as silk.  But the 2017 is being a problem child for me.  Any suggestions?

First, the script does not say to insert the upgrade SD. It says you can install the update.  Those are two separate things. The hack just  prepares your unit to bypass the Pioneer registration/password checking.

Second, if it does nothing, then you have the wrong cardinfo.cif file or your update files are not  in the correct directories.  What model is your unit?  I'm moving your post to 2017 US/Can maps thread.

First, the script does not say to insert the upgrade SD. It says you can install the update.  Those are two separate things. The hack just  prepares your unit to bypass the Pioneer registration/password checking.

Second, if it does nothing, then you have the wrong cardinfo.  What model is your unit?  I'm moving your post to 2017 US/Can maps thread.

You leave my post right where it is!!!!!   And I found the problem without your sorry help!!!

You leave my post right where it is!!!!!   And I found the problem without your sorry help!!!

So, you found your mistake. I've tried to make the instructions as clear as possible, so if you've found something unclear, please enlighten us. That's part of the purpose of this community.

Will this include the fix for Lightning connectors that came around for the Z140? Is there any reason or need to install any of the previous upgrades or patches? I'm paranoid after reading talk of that in the 2015 thread.

I have a Z120 upgraded to the Z130 Version/Platform Version 3.000, Application Version 3.001, Bluetooth 3.22.

Will this include the fix for Lightning connectors that came around for the Z140? Is there any reason or need to install any of the previous upgrades or patches? I'm paranoid after reading talk of that in the 2015 thread.

 

I have a Z120 upgraded to the Z130 Version/Platform Version 3.000, Application Version 3.001, Bluetooth 3.22.

There is a section addressing this in the installation manual. See post #15 for the links. I encourage you to read it and the Bluetooth instructions. My iPod is too old so I haven't followed this issue closely, However I recall that the Lightning patches (either 4.6 or 5.1) need to be installed before upgrading to 6 or 7. Some system files get modified that are not part of the map update release. So you are wise to take care of it first. I'll let someone who actually knows this stuff take it from there.

The big concern I have at the moment is this explicit warning from the 5.100 upgrade instructions document, considering I have a Z120...

IMPORTANT

• DO NOT perform any steps of this firmware update if the model number is anything other than AVIC-Z140BH or AVIC-X940BT. Check your model number before updating firmware.

 

Have warnings like this been safe to ignore in the past? I haven't discovered the right search terms yet that might lead me to where people are discussing whether it was worthwhile or even possible to apply this update to their Z120s, or anything not a Z140. Oh hey, I should have just browsed the old fashioned way. There are threads around. Looks like its probably just a waste of time.

The big concern I have at the moment is this explicit warning from the 5.100 upgrade instructions document, considering I have a Z120...

 

 

 

Have warnings like this been safe to ignore in the past? I haven't discovered the right search terms yet that might lead me to where people are discussing whether it was worthwhile or even possible to apply this update to their Z120s, or anything not a Z140. Oh hey, I should have just browsed the old fashioned way. There are threads around. Looks like its probably just a waste of time.

I just looked at the Z110, Z120, X920 2017 update document and it doesn't mention anything about installing those Lightning patches. So it is possible that they are only required for the Z140 (one time only). I remember that the year that the Z140 came out, Pioneer wasn't ready for Lightning support, and they rushed the v4.6 patch out to add support for the original Z140 software (v4.0). But the next maps were already out so they released a second patch (v5.1) for those who already updated to v5.0.  What I don't know for sure is if  the next annual map update for Z1110/Z120 had that patch built-in to the update .

BTW, no matter what version of software you are running, the original hardware model number stays the same far as Pioneer is concerned.

I'm trying to update my X940BT, after downloading the update I simply unzip all the files and place them into the root of the SD card, which was formatted to FAT32, the SD card had these 3 files Firmware, Update and CARDINFO.cif. The unit will not initiate the update!!! any thoughts??

Tried a different CARDINFO.cif file from my 2015 update, and it does take me to update but asking for a password which I don't have, any help will be much appreciated.

I'm trying to update my X940BT, after downloading the update I simply unzip all the files and place them into the root of the SD card, which was formatted to FAT32, the SD card had these 3 files Firmware, Update and CARDINFO.cif. The unit will not initiate the update!!! any thoughts??

Are you sure you have a X940? What does it say on the bezel? The set of files posted were for Z130/Z140/X930/X940. I posted a separate Cardinfo for the Z110/Z120/X920. I hope you didn't d/l that and over-write the good one. No matter,  you just made more work for yourself.

Tried a different CARDINFO.cif file from my 2015 update, and it does take me to update but asking for a password which I don't have, any help will be much appreciated.

What did you expect? Did you enter a password? Did you even install the hack or read the thread? 

I'm trying this now and getting the infamous "Incorrect SD card" error at the end of installation --

* z130BT, starting with v6 (2015 maps?)

* I ran the Shortfuse script, worked like a charm ... thanks!

* Downloaded, unzipped and loaded the 2017 files onto an SD card.  Overwrote Navi.exe with the Nag-free version.  Popped it in, used the special password, and it went through the installation all the way up to "98% - 3 minutes left" and then said "Incorrect SD card installed ... please install the correct one.".

I searched the forums and found some suggestions related to card size and format:

I don't have a 4GB card on me, but I do have an 8GB SDHC card, I formatted it on our Windows machine FAT32 with default allocation size.   I also unzipped the distribution file under Windows as was recommended.  Still no luck.

Do I really need to find a 4GB SDHC card to load this distribution on?  Or is there something else I am not trying?

I will gladly contribute to the pool once I can get this install completed successfully.

Thanks.

Thank you very much to RonS and nezfotnemom for the maps and instructions!

​I have a quick question. I was able to install the 2017 maps without any issues, but I now notice that my GPS signal is out of whack. It seems like it isn't accurate and is having trouble "locking" the current location. Should I try to take out the radio fuse to hard reboot? I have a XB930BT.

I'm trying this now and getting the infamous "Incorrect SD card" error at the end of installation --

 

* z130BT, starting with v6 (2015 maps?)

* I ran the Shortfuse script, worked like a charm ... thanks!

* Downloaded, unzipped and loaded the 2017 files onto an SD card.  Overwrote Navi.exe with the Nag-free version.  Popped it in, used the special password, and it went through the installation all the way up to "90% - 3 minutes left" and then said "Incorrect SD card installed ... please install the correct one.".

Apparently you didn't read the No-Nag instructions. 

Note: Install the 2017 map update before installing this hack. Do not change the file on the 2017 installation SD. If you do, the installation will fail. You will get the dreaded "Wrong SD" error. So I edited it with it bold red letters. Rebuild your installation SD from the zipped archive.

Thank you very much to RonS and nezfotnemom for the maps and instructions!

 

​I have a quick question. I was able to install the 2017 maps without any issues, but I now notice that my GPS signal is out of whack. It seems like it isn't accurate and is having trouble "locking" the current location. Should I try to take out the radio fuse to hard reboot? I have a XB930BT.

Yes, I would try that. I don't know why that would happen and you're the first to report a problem like that. I had to reset mine due to some odd iPod issue. But I didn't have a problem with GPS.

Apparently you didn't read the No-Nag instructions. 

Note: Install the 2017 map update before installing this hack. Do not change the file on the 2017 installation SD. If you do, the installation will fail. You will get the dreaded "Wrong SD" error. So I edited it with it bold red letters. Rebuild your installation SD from the zipped archive.

Sorry, my bad -- I misread the instructions and was hoping to bypass the extra No-Nag bypass step.  Thank you for the prompt response ... all is good now.  Installation completed.  Nag screen removed as well.  Donation sent.

Fyi I used a SanDisk 8GB SDHC card for this, formatted on MacOS (MS-DOS), also distribution unzipped on MacOS.

RonS, I actually have a X9310BT and through the 2016 upgrade I updated the unit to X940BT. I've followed the instructions after reading the forum, and at first I did not play with the files at all, all I did was placed the 3 files onto the root of a 4GB SD card, but the machine will not go into update mode. I'm not that savvy when it comes to the Testmode so I didn't try the hack. I guess I will have to wait....

RonS, I actually have a X9310BT and through the 2016 upgrade I updated the unit to X940BT. I've followed the instructions after reading the forum, and at first I did not play with the files at all, all I did was placed the 3 files onto the root of a 4GB SD card, but the machine will not go into update mode. I'm not that savvy when it comes to the Testmode so I didn't try the hack. I guess I will have to wait....

Technically, you can never "upgrade" the unit to X940bt. You have a X9310BT running v5.x or v6.0 software. The internal model doesn't change.

But never mind, since you got to the prompt to enter the password, you are past all that CardInfo stuff. So it sounds like you never installed the ShortFuse hack and you can't get past the password prompt when you try to install the updated maps.

Go back and look at the ShortFuse hack thread. I added a simpler way to install the hack using a script. It is very easy and you don't need to use TestMode. Once you run the script (automatically runs when you insert the hack SD), you can then insert the map update SD and reboot your unit if it doesn't restart on it's own. When the update asks for the password, enter PASSWORDPASSWORD (or anything else if you wish). Be warned that the update will fail if you modified any files on the map SD except for CardInfo.CIF.

RonS, thank you very much. I will try out the ShortFuse hack and see if I can get my unit to update, I'm currently running V6.0 on my X9310BT

RonS, I've tried the shortfuse easy version on my X9310BT running V6.0, the installation went smooth without issue. I put the map update on a separate SD card which contained the 3 files Update, Firmware and Cardinfo,cif that came with the download, when I insert the map update SD, it says wrong SD card. I managed to use testmode to kick the unit out of update mode. I don't believe I have the right Cardinfo.cif, and now I'm stuck as the Cardinfo.cif I've used came as part of the download zip, any ideas please.

RonS, I've tried the shortfuse easy version on my X9310BT running V6.0, the installation went smooth without issue. I put the map update on a separate SD card which contained the 3 files Update, Firmware and Cardinfo,cif that came with the download, when I insert the map update SD, it says wrong SD card. I managed to use testmode to kick the unit out of update mode. I don't believe I have the right Cardinfo.cif, and now I'm stuck as the Cardinfo.cif I've used came as part of the download zip, any ideas please.

If, when you insert the map update SD, it  asks for a password, then your CardInfo is correct. Once you get past that, the only thing that can go wrong (besides the car's battery dying) is a problem with the SD files. Since you are posting in this thread, I assume you are installing the US/Can maps. So there is no password needed to extract the zip (as there is in the EU map zip).

The Cardinfo file you need is the one that came with the map zip. 

Sometimes the unzip program can cause files to be corrupted. Are you using a PC or a Mac? Also, some people have had problems caused by the SD format. What size SD are you using? I recommend a 4GB formatted FAT32 with default cluster size (on  a Windows PC). An 8GB one should work but someone said they had to use a 32K cluster size instead of the default.

RonS, I'm using a 4GB SD card, correctly formatted using FAT32 with default cluster size, I'm running PC and unzipped the downloaded which leaves me with files name Pioneer_T1000-25818. I did have to enter password to extract the zip file downloaded from zip supplied by nezfotnemom, which is a US/CAN map I believe and the Cardinfo should cover X9310BT. I'm going to unzip the entire file again just to make sure, and give it a try. When I insert the SD card after the installing the short version of the shortfuse hack, the system did not ask me for any password, instead it just says " Wrong SD, insert correct SD card". Thank you for your assistance.