Hey Mike, fellow Gapper here; I had mine installed about 6 months ago and I love it. The navi issue isn't a big deal as once you plot your route you can save it to "memory" in the unit and then pop out the Nav DVD and pop in whatever you want to listen/watch. This works great in the cities and I have used it many times in S'toon, PA, Eddy, Wpg and Calgary. Just get the address, punch it in to the unit, watch it plot the course and then pop the NAV DVD out. It leads you right to your destination with voice prompts and fantastic on-screen route display (even automatically switches to close u