justinmoir Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hi there, I have recently installed a DA 110 appradio3 in my car, everything was great until last week when I was using Navfree and waze, it starts off full screen then shrinks down so there is a black border about a cm thick around the whole picture?? It also asks me to allow appradio to connect to my iphone 5 after each call? Shrinking picture also happens when playing netflix etc!??? Anyone got a fix or had the same issue? Cheers, Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jlinnell98 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Same issue. Started after ios7 upgrade for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Same for me after iOS7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Same issue for me (IP4S on iOS7 with SPH-DA100). I used to occasionally get this with earlier iOS versions. I posted here about it and somebody said it might be correlated to receiving emails. I have noticed the screen shrink right after receiving an email, but I believe that the shrinking is more random than that. The weird thing is that this weird behavior would stabilize over time, so I never really cared too much. But now it happens pretty much every time I use App Mode on iOS7. This time around it's much more annoying to me. Does anybody know how to report bugs to Pioneer? They sure do make it difficult. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Does anybody know how to report bugs to Pioneer? They sure do make it difficult. Thats because they don't seem to want to hear it from users. They seem to have the attitude that they can find all the bugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 This is an issue with the OS. Any display has to deal with overscan(displays cutting off the edges of the signal. It's an old tv analog signal problem that has lingered). For whatever reason apple doesn't let you control overscan protection on iPhones and iPads while they do let you do it with the apple tv. iDevices default to overscan protection on. The problem here is that Pioneer doesn't use overscan on their display. Again, ancient tech leftovers. Why use it? So they put in their APIs code to tell appradio apps that they need to block overscan protection when sending to appradio. This used to work... until iOS 7. Whenever an app shrinks the HDMI adaptor has deemed overscan protection necessary for the video source, overriding the Pioneer request to not overscan to compensate for Apple's silliness, and it shrinks the signal to compensate. Apple needs to let us turn this ancient protection system off. That would solve all problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephen8665 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hey guys, Had the same issue. This may or may not solve it. But I havent had the shrinking in over a week (and it was doing it everyday for me) All I did was while the phone was connected to the Appradio I went to Settings-General-TV Out and switched "Widescreen" off. It seems even when switched off the unit displays the video in the proper aspect ratio but the overscan issue doesn't occur. **UPDATE** Nope still fucking does it. Just was lucky during my drives I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b0yke Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I updated to iOS7.0.3 and the frequency of this has reduced a lot it seems. I only saw it once now on my iPhone 5. Can you guys confirm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyz3343 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 No change for me. Waze still shrinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VBLUE42 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hey guys, Had the same issue. This may or may not solve it. But I havent had the shrinking in over a week (and it was doing it everyday for me) All I did was while the phone was connected to the Appradio I went to Settings-General-TV Out and switched "Widescreen" off. It seems even when switched off the unit displays the video in the proper aspect ratio but the overscan issue doesn't occur. **UPDATE** Nope still fucking does it. Just was lucky during my drives I suppose. And this is not even an option in iOS7 that I can find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyz3343 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 If he has a 4/4s their tv out is analog, hence the setting. The apple HDMI-lightning adaptor has no settings for the user to access. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b0yke Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I installed iOS7.1 beta 4 on both iPhone 4 and 5 and the great thing is that the shrinking no longer occurs on either phone! Can someone else confirm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I had beta 4 for a little while but my phone wasn't running well on it so I downgraded back to 7.0.4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rodz Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I installed iOS7.1 beta 4 on both iPhone 4 and 5 and the great thing is that the shrinking no longer occurs on either phone! Can someone else confirm? Yup, I can confirm this. Well, it does actually shrink for me when using car media player but then goes back to full size almost instantaneously. Happy days! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
holyhandwalker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks for this, helpful explanation! Very annoying though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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