SUPER DUTY 2008 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 I want a good flush mount rear backup color camera to mount "IN" the tailgate of my f250 in or under the handle. I plan to install this when my AVIC-Z2 comes in. 1-- Is a 1/3" ccd better than 1/4" ccd. 2-- Should I get infra red led's on it? 3-- Is 2 lux OK or do I need .2lux? 4-- Do I need automatic luminance control. 5-- Do I need reverse image? I don't want to use a tag mount because the camera will be to low for my needs. If the answer is yes to all these questions, where can I get a camera like that? Please Help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 1 It's bigger. 2 It helps at night 3 Dunno 4 Would be a good thing 5 See above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SUPER DUTY 2008 Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Could someone that has a good camera please recomend one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well I see you want a flush mount and not a plate cam, I use a plate cam on my SUV but I use these in the bed of my tow trucks. I have used the cheaper ones in the past but the hardened glass in this model is worth the extra $. If yours will be mounted out of harms way go with the cheaper one. If it is a work truck I would recommend this one, great picture day and night and extremely durable. http://www.kawamall.com/pd_1x_rvcbcdm3a.cfm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SUPER DUTY 2008 Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Thanks for the information. looks like a big difference in price $900 or $111. The $900 is too high for me If I use the cheaper one do you think it will hold up in the tailgate of my truck. It will not get hit just movement from opening and closing the tailgate. If I drill a mounting hole in the tailgate just below the tailgate handle can the camera be adjusted to view the hitch and the road at the same time with only a 110 degree veiwing angle? I see the cheaper one only says water resistant and the $900 says water proof. Do you think that will be a moisture problem with the cheaper one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Egmont Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well I see you want a flush mount and not a plate cam, I use a plate cam on my SUV but I use these in the bed of my tow trucks. I have used the cheaper ones in the past but the hardened glass in this model is worth the extra $. If yours will be mounted out of harms way go with the cheaper one. If it is a work truck I would recommend this one, great picture day and night and extremely durable. http://www.kawamall.com/pd_1x_rvcbcdm3a.cfm I second that one. I am waiting for my new bumper to come and I will mount it in there. In the meantime, I have it on the inside behind the back window, works great in the daytime, but at night, the LED's reflect on the glass and it becomes useless. The moral of this story, mounted outside and it will be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Thanks for the information. looks like a big difference in price $900 or $111. The $900 is too high for me If I use the cheaper one do you think it will hold up in the tailgate of my truck. It will not get hit just movement from opening and closing the tailgate. If I drill a mounting hole in the tailgate just below the tailgate handle can the camera be adjusted to view the hitch and the road at the same time with only a 110 degree veiwing angle? I see the cheaper one only says water resistant and the $900 says water proof. Do you think that will be a moisture problem with the cheaper one? I think you misread the site $900 is for ten cameras. Yes it has adjustment rings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
350zx6r Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I got the pioneer and its awesome. never seen another camera before but mine is perfect even at nite. pricy tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Same here. I have seen a couple OEM cameras and the Pioneer is better than those few I got the pioneer and its awesome. never seen another camera before but mine is perfect even at nite. pricy tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I would assume that for "your needs" you mean watching a trailer? Because I installed a tag mounted license plate camera on my buddies 05 F250 and as a backup camera it's perfect, a very wide angle and it's just the right height. When you put a trailer on there, it's a bit low but not too bad. His trailers have low edges (motorcycle and quad trailer and towing) and it works pretty well, mainly cause the F250 is very high up as it is. If it was in a corvette or something it might be a bit low. His hitches have a good drop on them because even stock, the F250 sits very high up. I never took a picture of the rear view camera with his trailers attached.... Of course when you hook up a trailer, put your head at whatever level and see how low you can go. Only you know what you are doing. I can't see too much benefit of getting the camera up 2 more feet. Maybe 3, you can't get too much higher than that. I'm not sure what your needs are and why that might not work, but they are much easier to install and I thought it worked very well in a F250. It was one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0093072441 The one bobmun posted other people have installed with decent luck, but I can't just bring myself to drill any holes in a vehicle of mine like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I'm not sure what your needs are and why that might not work, but they are much easier to install and I thought it worked very well in a F250. It was one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0093072441 The one bobmun posted other people have installed with decent luck, but I can't just bring myself to drill any holes in a vehicle of mine like that. I use this model, but the black one, on my personal vehicle it is the Boyo VTL300. I am very pleased with it. I use different cameras on my tow trucks. I also would not drill holes in my vehicle to mount a camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brock.travis Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wow, i was looking for a camera for my truck. Those are pretty nice. I too like the black one. In Texas (not sure about other states) the plate frame can't cover the state name. Does this plate provide enough headroom to not cover it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobmun Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 it does not cover Illinois I don't know about Texas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Well the "Texas" is bigger I think it covers part of the NJ but not so much it's not easily read. I would have to grab my buddy's truck and look again. But he is a cop so he an pretty much do whatever he wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saczkid Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 is there a way to get the wire from the license plate into the car without drilling holes. If so please let me know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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