ADAMB06 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Apparently a guy here in town (Phoenix, AZ) claims to know how to bypass the Z1, he said he's done 4 already. Works at Sounds Good To Me, a local Car Audio place. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what to ask before I go in there and waste my time? I am sure if I use the "technical" words when asking him about the bypass will shine some light on if he really does know how. Sounds Good to ME (480) 968-8543 21 W Broadway Rd, Tempe, AZ His name is MEMO, if anyone would like to call, and maybe find out if he can do it, and share the "secret" Thanks again, I LOVE THIS FORUM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjlee Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 um, have you been reading any of the posts on this forum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMB06 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 My apologies, I meant to say, other than flashing your lights and installing Ducati boy circuit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 [quote name="ADAMB06"]My apologies, I meant to say, other than flashing your lights and installing Ducati boy circuit.[/quote] Well you can install a pair of TR7's as well. Some people think that hooking in relays in between your VSS and your GPS will work as well. It doesn't. It seems to at first, but the Z1 has internal accelerometers and it will figure it out and there is no way to put a relay in between those. The only way is to flash your lights manually, put in TR7's or my circuit. If you are going to have him do it, ask him if his bypass is "relays" if it is, his "fix" is only temporary and doesn't really work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMB06 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I am going to go with your CIRCUIT RELAY, I don't want to Test anything when your process is proven to work. I was just throwing it out there, so that if someone who is still "testing" would like to contact him and see if he can really do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 That's fine, technically my circuit has no relays. Nothing mechanical to click or wear out. All processors and transistors (and caps, avalanch diode, voltage regulators, etc). I haven't really came up with a cool name other than the Ducatiboy Flasher Circuit. I probably won't call the guy, but if anyone is really curious, feel free. I had thought of hunting down installer shops and people who did the relay (false) fix and try to enlighten them. In the end they are just hurting themselves cause their customers will get pissed at them. A few shops have ordered a few from me, I would not be surprised that they are installing my circuit for $100 or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMB06 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 No doubt, my buddy works for Ultimate Electronics, so when I get the piece from you and install it, if it works, I'll definitely hook him up with your info, and I'll spread the word to anyone else who is interested! Thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tromar1 Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 The other possible solution I've heard about is from the place I bought my Z1. I have not been able to prove this theory...nor am I going to try considering I already have the best fix. Also...I was reading quite intently to see if anyone else mentioned this possible solution and have not come across it... Nuff said, my dealer told me that he installed his and his method was to not connect the illumination wire and simply ground the parking brake wire. At first, he only told me to simply ground the parking brake wire, but when my installer did that, it didn't work. I got the message about inproper install...Furthermore, the system would work without flashing but after a while it would not be bypassed. I called him and told him my results and he noted (for the first time) that it was because I didn't leave the illumination wire unconnected... Like I said...can't prove, won't prove it, don't care... Just taught i'd chime in... Funny thing is, people would go on eBay and buy crap for a whole lot of money...not including shipping, but question Ducati's piece that is proven.. :roll: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tromar1 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Wouldn't you know...got a call today from my friend with the so called bypass which is to ground only and not connect the illumination light...doesn't work. Now he is taking about " pac pr7" or something like that.... Told him about my fix but he didn't seem interested. Ducati's bypass rule.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Honestly if I were a dealer/installer, I would be very reluctant to sell/install any bypass circuit for a customer. I could be legally liable if the customer got into an acident while using the unit with features enabled as a result of the bypass. The customer may not sue me, but any third party may sue me if they found out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03Aviator Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 [quote name="guest"]Honestly if I were a dealer/installer, I would be very reluctant to sell/install any bypass circuit for a customer. I could be legally liable if the customer got into an acident while using the unit with features enabled as a result of the bypass. The customer may not sue me, but any third party may sue me if they found out.[/quote] Damn good point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mhyde71 Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 [quote name="ducatiboy"] [quote name="ADAMB06"]My apologies, I meant to say, other than flashing your lights and installing Ducati boy circuit.[/quote] Well you can install a pair of TR7's as well. Some people think that hooking in relays in between your VSS and your GPS will work as well. It doesn't. It seems to at first, but the Z1 has internal accelerometers and it will figure it out and there is no way to put a relay in between those. The only way is to flash your lights manually, put in TR7's or my circuit. If you are going to have him do it, ask him if his bypass is "relays" if it is, his "fix" is only temporary and doesn't really work.[/quote] Matt here and i'm still lost all i need to know is what is meant by flashing your lights manually and what is it exactly i need to get to make this happen? I looked up tr7 on ebay and saw there were a few and even ones with a little radio shack toggle, i like it. But is that what i need? If someone could just let me know - I'm confused sorry ! Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rlith Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 [quote name="mhyde71"] Matt here and i'm still lost all i need to know is what is meant by flashing your lights manually and what is it exactly i need to get to make this happen? I looked up tr7 on ebay and saw there were a few and even ones with a little radio shack toggle, i like it. But is that what i need? If someone could just let me know - I'm confused sorry ! Matt[/quote] Read the bypass thread in the z1 hack section Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ducatiboy Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 [quote name="mhyde71"]Matt here and i'm still lost all i need to know is what is meant by flashing your lights manually and what is it exactly i need to get to make this happen? I looked up tr7 on ebay and saw there were a few and even ones with a little radio shack toggle, i like it. But is that what i need? If someone could just let me know - I'm confused sorry ! Matt[/quote] Read some of these: [url=http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=301&start=0]http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 01&start=0[/url] [url=http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=351&start=0]http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 51&start=0[/url] If you want to do the TR7 route here is the set up and programming: [url=http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143&start=0]http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 43&start=0[/url] Or buy mine: [url=http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166]http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166[/url] FAQ on mine: [url=http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285]http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285[/url] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tromar1 Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 [quote name="guest"]Honestly if I were a dealer/installer, I would be very reluctant to sell/install any bypass circuit for a customer. I could be legally liable if the customer got into an acident while using the unit with features enabled as a result of the bypass. The customer may not sue me, but any third party may sue me if they found out.[/quote] Really? Yet you are here trying to get info on the bypass... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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