MLB12 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Good Evening Everyone, Has anyone had the opportunity to use, or even see, the new backup camera package that Pioneer has released? It is their part number ND-BC20PA, and it would appear that it is quite an interesting item. Any feedback will be appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Saw it on a display at a show, but haven't on a car yet. Pretty cool, gives you a top-down view as well as the typical camera angle and the parking lines are kinda neat. The colors looked more realisitic than my NDBC1 too but that was in a display, not outdoors so it may have been the room Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barfer Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 looks bigger then the old model which I have. works great but would upgrade if the features are better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cali92 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 a little up!! any news on this new camera ?? i will try to get one, next week (if it's avaiable here in France) cali Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Same size as the BC2, also has a little button that you install up front to change views from regular to a top a view. Pretty cool, basically you calibrate it before you use it the first time, and then it provides lines on screen for parking distance control Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cali92 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 thanks whtcrxghst if you have to chose between the 2 models ?? which one will you take ?? (the new one is nearly the twice price than the older). is this "parking distance control" is a cool feature ??, i think this is the only difference , no?? cali ps if you have a video to share with the new camera in action ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I don't back into spaces that often or tow anything so the regular one is good enough for me, but if I was buying one for the first time, I might go with the new one (throwing away the $250 one to buy the $400 one isn't really an option for me.) If you hook up a trailor often, the different view will come in handy and the parking control would be helpful if I ever backed in tight spaces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cali92 Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 thanks whtcrxghst So i got a try next week with the new one i'll post here my futur review cali Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josiah Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I don't understand the parking lines. I'm pretty excited to find out. If I understand the other feature correctly, it can switch from looking down at the ball hitch to looking back at the trailer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Yes, there is regular view, and a sort of aerial view. The parking lines are like a square that is on the screen, the lines go from green to yellow to red so you know when you are about to hit something I don't understand the parking lines. I'm pretty excited to find out. If I understand the other feature correctly, it can switch from looking down at the ball hitch to looking back at the trailer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee roberts Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 My BC2 has a wide enough angle that I can see the towing ball and over the top off the boat. Backing using the camera I am learning as I use the camera, the parking lines may would help some. I can just about judge to stop right before I am going to bump something. I really wanted the camera so that I could back up to the hitch ball without getting out of the car ten times and to back a jet ski into the water. I do not think I would pay the additional money. Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLB12 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Has anyone determined the quality of the image generated by such a small camera, and with such a small lens? The lens appears to be quite small, say around 3/16"? Also, do the on-screen lines go away when using it in Map View, that is as a rear view mirror type of device as opposed to a parking assist device. My guess is it would be really aggravating to have those lines there all the time! Comments?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cali92 Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 yes good question MLB12 but i think that today nobody have tested yet this new rear camera My dealer is still closed (august vacation) , i hope to do this operation for the begening of september cali Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 The lines do go away while moving forward. As for the lens being too small, I don't feel its a problem. The color quality and viewing angle on this one is better than my NDBC1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenRapp Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Using this cam with a z1, how would you change the angles of the camera view? Is there an external button that would sit in the car to change the camera angles? Sorry if that is a stupid question. I haven't done much homework yet on this cam... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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