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Using Europe Map on US F900BT

By ydokter · Nov 12, 2008in Hacks/Mods💬 181 posts👁️ 65,930 views
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Posted Mar 02, 2009 · 23:15 UTC#101

Dear All,

 

I actually found all answers in this thread already BUT just to make sure ...

I am thinking of buying AVIC F-700BT or 500BT (the US version). I live in Germany and want to install European Maps. I found cheap maps of western europe (https://www.naviextras.com/shop/portal/ ... 100&area=3).

My question is can I just buy AVIC and the maps from above link and install them on my AVIC after doing hack of ezrider file??? Will they work??? I am not sure if the above said maps are compatible with AVIC??? Normally it says on the website compatible with iGo my way 8, is it the same???

 

Should I than order both??

Thanks.

Posted Mar 03, 2009 · 05:15 UTC#102
Dear All,

 

I actually found all answers in this thread already BUT just to make sure ...

I am thinking of buying AVIC F-700BT or 500BT (the US version). I live in Germany and want to install European Maps. I found cheap maps of western europe (https://www.naviextras.com/shop/portal/ ... 100&area=3).

My question is can I just buy AVIC and the maps from above link and install them on my AVIC after doing hack of ezrider file??? Will they work??? I am not sure if the above said maps are compatible with AVIC??? Normally it says on the website compatible with iGo my way 8, is it the same???

 

Should I than order both??

Thanks.

 

I don't think NaviExtras will sell maps for AVIC, they'd be competing with one of their own customers (Pioneer). However, if you do buy maps from the (iGO 8.0 and NOT 8.3 format) they should work. The problem would be actually buying them -- NaviExtras seems to only sell maps etc. through the Content Manager to an original iGO SD card.

Posted Mar 03, 2009 · 21:09 UTC#103
The problem would be actually buying them -- NaviExtras seems to only sell maps etc. through the Content Manager to an original iGO SD card.

 

Cant I copy the maps from SD card or just put SD card in AVIC???

 

How big is the memory of AVIC? Can I really copy all europe maps in internal memory without deleting US maps or do I have to delete some US???

Posted Mar 03, 2009 · 21:24 UTC#104
The problem would be actually buying them -- NaviExtras seems to only sell maps etc. through the Content Manager to an original iGO SD card.

 

Cant I copy the maps from SD card or just put SD card in AVIC???

 

How big is the memory of AVIC? Can I really copy all europe maps in internal memory without deleting US maps or do I have to delete some US???

 

You probably could copy maps off of the card. Will probably need to copy the license file as well.

 

AVIC has 2GB of flash drive, and on the US unbit, about 1.4GB of it is navigation content (excluding executables etc).

 

I would back up US maps and delete them. Chances are you're not going to drive across the Atlantic so you'd need both sets at the same time... :D

Posted Mar 03, 2009 · 23:40 UTC#105

Is there any other option than downloading the iGo 8.0 maps. I want to buy them and stay clean ;) what if NaviExtras doesnt work??

 

Is there any other website selling it cheap?

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 00:00 UTC#106
Is there any other option than downloading the iGo 8.0 maps. I want to buy them and stay clean ;) what if NaviExtras doesnt work??

 

Is there any other website selling it cheap?

 

Cheap... in Europe Not sure, but you could try some reseller that has a decent return policy.

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 20:37 UTC#107
Can I really copy all europe maps in internal memory without deleting US maps or do I have to delete some US???

 

I recommend you do a complete backup of your device, good idea if you plan to hack your device anyway. Then, what I did with my F700, delete all US maps, which frees a lot of internal disc space. Then I loaded the major roads of western europe and the countries I need. Then I replaced the french speech ogg files with the german speech files. Except for the US user interface everything is now swapped to german on my F700BT. Even the spped cameras for europe are working! Pretty cool..... :-)

 

Tom

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 20:38 UTC#108
Is there any other option than downloading the iGo 8.0 maps. I want to buy them and stay clean ;) what if NaviExtras doesnt work??

 

Is there any other website selling it cheap?

 

Have you tried speaking to Pioneer about this issue?? Maybe they can help?

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 20:44 UTC#109

When I phoned Pioneer they told me no maps are on sale (yet)

They won't be available untill the next 'update' (no clue of what kind)

 

(guess that 'forces' us to borrow torrented maps... right?)

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 20:51 UTC#110
When I phoned Pioneer they told me no maps are on sale (yet)

They won't be available untill the next 'update' (no clue of what kind)

 

(guess that 'forces' us to borrow torrented maps... right?)

 

dahar313 issue might be even more difficult, as he wants to swap US maps and go to european once. From a license standpoint not easy....

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 20:57 UTC#111
When I phoned Pioneer they told me no maps are on sale (yet)

They won't be available untill the next 'update' (no clue of what kind)

 

(guess that 'forces' us to borrow torrented maps... right?)

 

dahar313 issue might be even more difficult, as he wants to swap US maps and go to european once. From a license standpoint not easy....

Yeah sorry,

 

That was my exact question to Pioneer too ;)

 

And guess what they told me:

- There's this forum....

Avic411?

- yes!

what about it?

- it is all very clearly described how to be able to load EU maps

so you are saying to go for that route instead?

- yes

wow... funny you know about these things too

- we try every mod and hack that is posted there.

hhahahaha! really?

- Yes, we have to. It is how we learn and see for ourselves too. Just be very carefull you don't kill your unit. There's nothing we could do for you. Also us putting EU firmware on your unit won't work.

 

 

so... Nice lady from Pioneer in The Hague:

HI!!! :D

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 21:29 UTC#112

So wat do u guys suggest? Should I just download torrent maps, do license hack, put the maps in my device ... is it?

 

One more questions; how do u put maps in your device, it has to be connected in your car to get current (electric) or u can connect it with ur computer???

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 21:30 UTC#113

@ CalTom

 

I see you are also from Germany, do you know much custom/duties (Zoll) you have to pay in Germany when importing this from the US?

Thanks.

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 23:41 UTC#114
So wat do u guys suggest? Should I just download torrent maps, do license hack, put the maps in my device ... is it?

 

That's what I understand from paQ, he seems to be from Europe as well... Actually it is not completly right in regards to legal laws, but instead of using the US maps I use the Euro maps, so what is the big deal?! Yeah, it's not 100% safe, but what the h....

 

One more questions; how do u put maps in your device, it has to be connected in your car to get current (electric) or u can connect it with ur computer???

 

You can leave your Pioneer in the car. Copy the new maps to your SD card. Bring your device into testmode and then copy the maps onto the internal storage. If you have the correct versions, the Pioneer app recognize the new map after reboot.

Posted Mar 04, 2009 · 23:48 UTC#115
@ CalTom

 

I see you are also from Germany, do you know much custom/duties (Zoll) you have to pay in Germany when importing this from the US?

Thanks.

 

Not exactly... I bought mine some weeks ago while I was in LA. Circuit City had good deals at that time, since they are closing all stores. So back in Germany, the Avic traveling in my luggage, I paid nothing - no VAT no nothing. Great deal!!

 

At least you have to add 19% VAT on the invoice amount (incl. freight) and then I would calculate with approx. 7.5% for Zoll. You might find the correct tariff by checking the zoll.de website.

 

But, it might be even more difficult to find a dealer, who is willing to ship to Germany....

 

Good luck!

 

Tom

Posted Mar 05, 2009 · 12:17 UTC#116

Hi, I think than the really important information in this post is really shorter than the long post. I think would be a really good idea if someone could post the important links and info in another post or separated from the rest.

What do you think about it???

Posted Mar 05, 2009 · 12:30 UTC#117
At least you have to add 19% VAT on the invoice amount (incl. freight) and then I would calculate with approx. 7.5% for Zoll. You might find the correct tariff by checking the zoll.de website.

 

 

customs rate in EU-countries for GPS navigation systems is 0%

 

Also the Netherlands have raised their duty free LUGGAGE import tot 425 EUR. (also for VAT)

Posted Mar 06, 2009 · 00:03 UTC#118

Does Building 3D, landscapes or POIs have any version like 8.0 or they are always same???

 

I found the maps in 2008.04 version and also one link for buildings, landscapes, etc but it does not say any version!!! Can I just copy them in my device?

Posted Mar 06, 2009 · 03:10 UTC#119
Does Building 3D, landscapes or POIs have any version like 8.0 or they are always same???

 

I found the maps in 2008.04 version and also one link for buildings, landscapes, etc but it does not say any version!!! Can I just copy them in my device?

 

Those should be all the same.

Posted Mar 13, 2009 · 22:16 UTC#120

Hi Boris,

 

Now I have the 2008.04 maps but I am still waiting for my AVIC. In between I read in another thread that you can download 2008/07 or 2008/10 on your AVIC.

 

Is it true? 2008/10 with EZRIDER and license hack?

 

Another question: AVIC runs Windows CE (if I am correct). So, cant we just install the new software instead of copying maps? Normally it should be possible to install (software) iGo 8.0 or even iGo 8.3 on Windows CE. Thats what iGo is made for.

 

Did someone tried it, and if why was it not possible to install a new software? I remember doing it once in my old Falk, I installed Navigon on SD of my Falk and it worked fine.

 

Thanks.

Posted Mar 14, 2009 · 22:45 UTC#121
Hi Boris,

 

Now I have the 2008.04 maps but I am still waiting for my AVIC. In between I read in another thread that you can download 2008/07 or 2008/10 on your AVIC.

 

Is it true? 2008/10 with EZRIDER and license hack?

 

Another question: AVIC runs Windows CE (if I am correct). So, cant we just install the new software instead of copying maps? Normally it should be possible to install (software) iGo 8.0 or even iGo 8.3 on Windows CE. Thats what iGo is made for.

 

Did someone tried it, and if why was it not possible to install a new software? I remember doing it once in my old Falk, I installed Navigon on SD of my Falk and it worked fine.

 

Thanks.

 

For Europe, yes, there are newer maps than 2008.4.

 

While AVIC does run WinCE and uses iGO, you can't just replace it with a different iGO build. This is a special project NavNGo did for Pioneer, and it includes certain integration points for interacting with the A/V system in the avic. Among other things, AVIC shell expects to hear from built-in iGO that it had finished booting, and if it does not, it assumes that an error occurred and reboots the unit... If you want to run a different version of iGO, you need ot run it from LeetLauncher, which takes the built-in shell out of the picture...

Posted Mar 15, 2009 · 20:46 UTC#122

The Buildings, 3d and POIs are the same in both versions. Not sure about the landscapes.

 

GUGA

Posted Mar 17, 2009 · 11:43 UTC#123
Boot the unit in Tets Mode.

 

Open APL2\IGO folder on the AVIC and make a backup copy of ezrider.exe (this is the main Navi program).

 

Copy ezrider.exe from this forum over the one you just backed up.

 

Copy a licrense file (.lic) to APL2\igo\license

 

Copy iGO 8 map of Brazil to APL2\iGO\Content\Map.

 

Reboot the unit. You shoulds have working maps of Brazil now.

 

I don't have the unit AVIC Pioneer F 700 BT yet, but can you tell me how i boot the unit in Test Mode.

PS: I am from Belgium :wink:

Posted Mar 18, 2009 · 20:09 UTC#124
Hi Boris,

 

Now I have the 2008.04 maps but I am still waiting for my AVIC. In between I read in another thread that you can download 2008/07 or 2008/10 on your AVIC.

 

Is it true? 2008/10 with EZRIDER and license hack?

 

It 's true - I did the update a few weeks ago, and it works just fine..

 

I am currently using 2008.10 maps and poi files with 2008.07 3dc/3dl files.

Posted Mar 19, 2009 · 07:19 UTC#125

where do you find maps and poi files??? I have been looking for them with emule but I can´t find anything......................could you help me about it?????????????? Best Regards

 

Hi Boris,

 

Now I have the 2008.04 maps but I am still waiting for my AVIC. In between I read in another thread that you can download 2008/07 or 2008/10 on your AVIC.

 

Is it true? 2008/10 with EZRIDER and license hack?

 

It 's true - I did the update a few weeks ago, and it works just fine..

 

I am currently using 2008.10 maps and poi files with 2008.07 3dc/3dl files.

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