PsychoMcSatan, what sort of diode did you use? How many watts was it rated for? I'm just curious, I have a few small 12V batteries which I am considering installing as a secondary system.

Dear Ryra

First of all thanks much for doing all of this.

& Now a question to you:

Avicnet 2.1 - link isn't working on page 1 of this post?

Avicnet 2.0 (NA & Euro) - again link isn't working on page 1 of this post?

Q1) could you please give me a working link for above?

Q2) You mentioned two versions for Avicnet 2.0? what about Avicnet 2.1? is 2.1 not suitable for Euro version or Uk version?

Q3) Does the bluetooth and TMC both works while using Avicnet on European or UK F900BT? I have previously used hybrid4 mod, Diaftia mod and Chuck88's mod....but i can only have one thing in use i.e. either bluetooth works or TMC...i can't get both working at the same time.

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks

Hi matyana,

A1) Try the freakshare link for 2.1, it looks like it is still working. 2.0 is pretty old and I haven't used it for awhile, I wasn't planning to re-up it. I guess I should remove the link.

A2) 2.1 should work with the Euro or UK avic.

A3) I have no idea, we don't have TMC here in Canada. To tell you the truth, I don't think I ever tried bluetooth on avicnet. Perhaps another user who has used these features can help?

Thanks much for a quick response.

re Avic 2.1 - I should have mentioned it before, actually when you click on the initial link, it goes all fine unless you get to:

http://depositfiles.com/files/0fc9yst0b

on above web page after waiting 60 Seconds, following message appears... I have tried it quite a few timez but every time the message is same:

This file does not exist, the access to the following file is limited or it has been removed due to infringement of copyright.

Could you please try to fix the links.

Thanks

When you click on the link for multiupload from there chose the freakshare link rather then depositfiles.

thankz Ryar

dat worked perfectly fine

*downloading now*

@Ryar

I must say; you have done a great job, thankz much

one issue with Bluetooth:

i know yu r based in canada.....so it wudn't make any different to you....however i wud much appriciate any help or tips as my Unit is Euro/UK one.

In sys.txt, if i select 746UC unit, then my Bluetooth works but no TMC

& if i select 746EW, then TMC works not bluetooth......could you try it on your unit to check why slecting 746EW in sys.txt disables the bluetooth....But if you do not have enough time, could you please suggest me which files may be responsible for it !

HI matyana,

In the sys.txt when you select a device it "loads" additional settings which can be found in the data.zip via the following path: data/config/devices. There you can see pioneer746ew, pioneer749uc, ect.

If you know that certain settings work in one and not another, combine the working settings into one and point your sys.txt in that direction. I find it easiest to unzip the data.zip, modify the files/settings, and move the altered files back into the zipped data.zip via total commander for pc. Remember to keep a backup.

Aternately, you can try leaving the device= blank in the sys.txt and move the working TMC and bluetooth commands into the sys.txt.

At a glance, after combining the working tmc settings from the 746ew with the 746uc and deleting the broken settings I get:

info_names="PIONEER746UC"

[msnd]

msnd.start=1

msnd.version=2

fw_upgrade.enabled=1

fw_upgrade.image_path="\Storage Card\msnd.firmware.z"

comm.port=4

comm.thread_priority="normal"

comm.dt_read_write_tmout=0.1

comm.send_frame_retry_limit=3

comm.dt_send_tmout=1.0

comm.dt_alive_tmout=5.0

cache.dt_save_all=900.0

[sound]

device_id=1

use_os_volume=1

use_method=5

method5_maxvolume=40349

dynamic_volume_type=0

[tmc]

source="gns"

port="COM,4"

new_event_recalc_timeout=5

changed_event_recalc_timeout=15

enable_flow_lines=0

enable_flow_icons=0

If after combining the two if your bluetooth and TMC don't work I would suggest it is an issue elsewhere and bluetooth and TMC cannot be used simultaniously in some mods. Good luck!

many thanks Ryar, i will give it a try over the weekend

Hi Ryar

it didn't work....one thing i have noticed, if I merge both versions 746ew and 746uc.. TMC do not work but Bluetooth always works. In fact even if I select 746EW in SYS.TXT and use the merged (ew + uc) in place of pioneer746ew still the results are same and TMC do not work.

It seems that bluetooth is somehow linked with MSN Direct Services and it also seems if both (ew & uc) settings are merged then MSN Direct Services takes preference over TMC, hence do not let TMC to kick in. But bluetooth works fine. Any further suggestion?

one more point, both MSN and TMC uses Comm port 4.......my question may be stupid but is there a way I can use different port for TMC? like changing the value to port 6 or 7????

HI Matyana,

I was able to emulate your problem and can verify that if I choose a device ending with EW in the sys.txt then my bluetooth does not work. When I go to the bluetooth software update option it reads "Version: not found", where as if i use a UC device it reads a proper version number. I combined the two device files with both TMC and MSN Direct present and attempted to change the comm port there but the bluetooth still would not work.

Did bluetooth and TMC work correctly on the stock software from pioneer for your EW unit? Assuming it did, try using the device file(s) from it's data.zip and perhaps even the sys.txt. If that does not work take a look at Bagua's avicnet, perhaps his has bluetooth and TMC working. I'm sure if it was an issue it would be mentioned in his thread somewhere. Let us know either way if you have any luck or not.

PsychoMcSatan, what sort of diode did you use? How many watts was it rated for? I'm just curious, I have a few small 12V batteries which I am considering installing as a secondary system.

Hi Ryar,

Sorry for the slow reply, I've been happily using my 900bt with no issues fort the past few months.

Anyway, I forget the specifics of the circuit that my dad helped me out with, but the details are discussed in this thread:

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/19417-ignition-mod-on-f900bt/page__hl__%2Bignition+%2Bvoltage

There's a pdf a few posts in which is what I used. A page or two in is discussions about specific parts and alternatives.

Regards,

-PMS

Hello everybody

i just sat down yesterday and read all this thread trough.

this mod looks amazing, and i decided to try it, but im not sure if it will work on my f930bt?

also, can anyone link me to a download of the testmode archive, so i can back up my device before i start modding?

looked everywhere for a download link, but cant seem to find one that works?

Found a testmode dl here if anyone else was looking for it too

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/35351-european-2012-q1-teleatlastomtom-maps-complete-guide/

@Noes75

go to this post:

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/33431-hybrid-4001-cnsd-300fm-guide-updated/

download the files through Torrent link provided, before downloading only select to download file "testmode" and ignore rest of the files.

If you can't, PM me your email address and i will send you the file as it is only 1.6MB.

Matyana

@Ryar

Thanks for your help. I have now figured out the issue as i suspected it was something to do with COM Ports overlapping. I merged files of EW and UC in DATA.ZIP and changed the Port for MSN services from 4 to 5 but left TMC at Port 4...... Thats it ..... both Bluetooth and TMC are working now. But i am unsure if it now overlap with any other service , as I am not aware if there is any other service or hardware using COM Port 5 !

FYI - in the main SYS.TXT file, i am using 746EW

Matyana

neos75, it will not work with your f930bt. It will only work for the f500bt, f700bt, f900bt, x710bt and x910bt.

Matyana - Can you share your working config/device files that you changed? It will help other users who are having the same issue and I will include it when I upload an updated avic net.

PMS - Thanks for the info, I have a capacitor on order.

@Ryar

yes sure....my sys.txt currently reads as under. I didn't make any change to sys.txt apart from pointing it out to 746EW and slightly changing following line:

small_tmc_events_icon_set="$smalltmc2.spr"

to

small_tmc_events_icon_set="$smalltmc.spr"

but i am not sure if it makes any difference. I just changed it because this is how it was in my original stock.

Copy of sys.txt is as follows:

[device]

;type="PIONEER746UC" ; US F700/900/710/910

type="PIONEER746EW" ; Euro F700/900/710/910

;type="PIONEER749EW" ; Euro F500

;type="PIONEER749UC" ; US F500

;type="PIONEER746CA" ; CA F700/900/710/910

;type="PIONEER749CA" ; CA F500

[interface]

skin="ui_pioneer"

default_day_color="COLORSCHEME~Pioneer Blue Day"

default_night_color="COLORSCHEME~Pioneer Blue Night"

tmc_events_icon_set="$tmc.spr"

small_tmc_events_icon_set="$smalltmc.spr"

show_kml_type=0

mapfontscale=200

show_exit=1

minzoom2d=50

maxzoom3d=6000

[rawdisplay]

screen_x=800

screen_y=480

class="landscape"

highres=0

dpi=250

[debug]

speedcam_enabled=1

skip_eula=1

enable_roadshadow=1

enable_buildings=1

restart_mode_in_file=1

traincrossing=1

show_lane_info=1

[folders]

data="\My Flash Disk\User\UserData\iGo"

tts_nuance="\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo\ScanSoft\RealSpeakSolo"

secondary_app="Storage Card/usericon,USB Disk/usericon"

usb_trackexport_path="\USB Disk"

storage_trackexport_path="\Storage Card"

[gps]

port=5

baud=9600

default_latitude="0.0"

default_longitude="0.0"

log_base_dir="\My Flash Disk\User\UserData\iGo\LogData"

[2d]

show_guidance_arrows=1

show_guidance_strip=0

[3d_config]

roadsign_lines_per_screen=19

rotated_roadsigns=1

[local]

voice_key="Eng_us_m1"

default_language="english US"

[regional]

units=1

[dynamiccompressor]

compressor="1"

a0="56806"

thrs="24703"

ratio="8"

gain="8"

[timezone]

reset_os_timezone=1

multi_timezone=1

[map]

2dheadup=1

zoomfactor=110

3d_tunnels=1

show_oneway=1

3d_max_tiltlevel=8600

3d_max_zoomlevel=600

3d_scale_carmodel=1

3dcarsizemul=22000

3dcarsizemin=3500

3dcarsizemax=8800

building_render_distance_far_front=6.0

building_render_distance_far_back=3.0

building_render_distance_medium_front=4.0

building_render_distance_medium_back=2.0

building_render_distance_near_front=2.0

building_render_distance_near_back=2.0

;inertia_on_map_move=1 ; mouvement inertiel par glisser sur la carte, pour arrèter le mouvement, cliquer de nouveau sur la carte

[smartzoom]

restore_smartzoom_on=1

speedzoom=6

speedangle=8

[roundaboutcam]

centery=60

[3d]

show_guidance_arrows=1

show_guidance_strip=0

guidancearrow_first_size=0.7 ; scale of 1st arrow

guidancearrow_first_alpha=16 ; transp of 1st arrow

guidancearrow_second_size=0.5

guidancearrow_second_alpha=12

max_poly_segments_shown=250 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

min_poly_segments_shown=155 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

max_poly_segments_shown_1=240 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

min_poly_segments_shown_1=155 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

max_poly_segments_shown_2=240 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

min_poly_segments_shown_2=155 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

max_poly_segments_shown_3=235 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

min_poly_segments_shown_3=155 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

max_poly_segments_shown_4=235 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

min_poly_segments_shown_4=155 ;makes map drawing a lot faster

[warning]

warn_distances="130:1400,125:1400,120:1400,120:1400,115:1400,113:1400,100:1400,97:1400,95:1400,90:1400,89:1400,85:1400,80:1400,75:1400,72:1400,70:1400,65:1400,64:1400,60:1400,56:1400,55:1400,50:1400,48:1400,45:1400,40:1400,35:1400,32:1400,30:1400,25:1400,24:1400,20:1400,15:1400,0:1400"

mute_voice_announce_during_alert=1

[switchmap]

changer="\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo\Extension\MapChanger\MapChanger.exe"

1=",map_ta,\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo,,"

2=",map_nt,\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo,,"

[3dcar]

work_dir="\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo"

mortscript="\My Flash Disk\APL2\iGo\Extension\ThemeChanger\MortScript.exe"

In DATA.ZIP, i changed following two files by merging them with their respective UC files (& for MSN changed Com Port to 5):

1) PIONEER746EW.INI

info_names="PIONEER746EW"

[msnd]

msnd.start=1

msnd.version=2

fw_upgrade.enabled=1

fw_upgrade.image_path="\Storage Card\msnd.firmware.z"

comm.port=5

comm.thread_priority="normal"

comm.dt_read_write_tmout=0.1

comm.send_frame_retry_limit=3

comm.dt_send_tmout=1.0

comm.dt_alive_tmout=5.0

ui.selected_fuel_type="regular"

ui.fuel_price_limit_low=3.15

ui.fuel_price_limit_high=3.20

cache.tmc.thread_priority="low"

cache.tmc.dt_delete_expired_tmout=3600.0

cache.tmc.dt_max_sleep=3600.0

enable_flow_events=1

cache.dt_save_all=900.0

[sound]

device_id=1

use_os_volume=1

use_method=5

method5_maxvolume=40349

dynamic_volume_type=0

[tmc]

source="gns"

port="COM,4"

new_event_recalc_timeout=5

changed_event_recalc_timeout=15

enable_flow_lines=0

enable_flow_icons=0

2nd file is here, i am unsure if it does makes any difference or not but i changed it anyway.

2) PIONEER AVIC-F900EW.INI

info_names="PIONEER AVIC-F900EW"

[gps]

port=2

baud=9600

[msnd]

msnd.start=1

msnd.version=1

comm.port=5

comm.thread_priority="normal"

comm.dt_read_write_tmout=0.1

comm.send_frame_retry_limit=3

comm.dt_send_tmout=1.0

comm.dt_alive_tmout=5.0

ui.selected_fuel_type="regular"

ui.fuel_price_limit_low=3.15

ui.fuel_price_limit_high=3.20

cache.tmc.thread_priority="low"

cache.tmc.dt_delete_expired_tmout=3600.0

cache.tmc.dt_max_sleep=3600.0

[rawdisplay]

screen_x=800

screen_y=480

class="landscape"

highres=0

[sound]

device_id=1

[tmc]

source="gns"

port="COM,4"

Great job figuring it out and thanks for sharing.

Hello and Thanks for this mod.

Need Expert's advice on what I'm missing here:

I followed the steps as mentioned in the post 1 and still I'm not able to boot the AVICF500BT without the test mode. In normal mode (with SD card out), the GPS stays at the main welcome screen and does not move forward. So the quick way around I'm following is to boot the system in TESTMODE and then goto Flash disk-> APL2-> Primo3->Primo to work with the navigation,

I even tried running EZrider in test mode, and it reboots the system first time (on each Ezrider first run) and then I can use the Ezrider in the following run to work OK.

But it would be awesome if the EZrider can autiomatically load itself without the TESTMODE, so that I do not have to start the Primo manually.

Any help here would be much appreciated. thanks.

Hi Tomtomy,

Hmm, there could be a few things which are causing your unit to hang up during startup. Did you do the update in step #2? Also, make sure you don't flash the update for the f900bt since it will cause issues.

2) Ensure you are running Windows CE version 5.0 or above. You can check this by booting into testmde, going to the control panel and tapping on system. It will tell you your CE version there. If you need to upgrade, the f500bt is here

I have an f500bt which I use as a test unit and it boots up without issue so I can vouch that it is compatible. Other than the step above all I did was delete "my flash disk" and then copy the one from the avicnet. Make sure to copy some maps into the my flash disk/apl2/igo/content/maps folder, as well as pios and whatnot which are all also within the content folder. Sometimes a bad SD card will corrupt files, try copying onto another and give it another shot.

Thanks Ryar,

I checked the Win CE version and it is 5.0. And hence I did not do the update in step# 2.

I did copy maps/pois and dem files after the my flash disk from avicnet was copied.

The point , which I wanted to share was that:

1.) I only used the avic net 2.1 and did not bother with version 2.0 ? Could this be the problem.. like Did I have to install the 2.0 first and then go to 2.1??

2.) While deleting the my flash disk the folder my flash disk was never deleted. However all contents under it were deleted. And then I copied all the contents under avicnet myflash disk to the GPS's myflashdisk.

3.) I did have to modify sys.txt in APL2/IGO and APL2/PRIMO3 to change the port number to 7 to make GPS work.

I repeated the install process 3 times to make sure I did not miss anything.

Hi Tomtomy,

 

Hmm, there could be a few things which are causing your unit to hang up during startup. Did you do the update in step #2? Also, make sure you don't flash the update for the f900bt since it will cause issues.

 

2) Ensure you are running Windows CE version 5.0 or above. You can check this by booting into testmde, going to the control panel and tapping on system. It will tell you your CE version there. If you need to upgrade, the f500bt is here

 

I have an f500bt which I use as a test unit and it boots up without issue so I can vouch that it is compatible. Other than the step above all I did was delete "my flash disk" and then copy the one from the avicnet. Make sure to copy some maps into the my flash disk/apl2/igo/content/maps folder, as well as pios and whatnot which are all also within the content folder. Sometimes a bad SD card will corrupt files, try copying onto another and give it another shot.

Is there a workaround for this problem of not being able to boot without the TESTMODE.

Will there be any issue if I continue to use the GPS with testmode??

In case I have to live with test mode, can someone suggest a method, by which EZrider loads itself automatically on the Power on.

Thanks Ryar,

I checked the Win CE version and it is 5.0. And hence I did not do the update in step# 2.

I did copy maps/pois and dem files after the my flash disk from avicnet was copied.

 

The point , which I wanted to share was that:

 

1.) I only used the avic net 2.1 and did not bother with version 2.0 ? Could this be the problem.. like Did I have to install the 2.0 first and then go to 2.1??

2.) While deleting the my flash disk the folder my flash disk was never deleted. However all contents under it were deleted. And then I copied all the contents under avicnet myflash disk to the GPS's myflashdisk.

3.) I did have to modify sys.txt in APL2/IGO and APL2/PRIMO3 to change the port number to 7 to make GPS work.

 

I repeated the install process 3 times to make sure I did not miss anything.

Bluetooth and RearView Mirror options:

Was anyone able to use the Rearview video and Bluetooth options in Primo3.0?