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Bypass instructions for the Z1

By Jamesdat · Mar 31, 2006in Hacks/Mods💬 427 posts👁️ 155,139 views
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Posted May 08, 2006 · 21:28 UTC#301
sweet...i will try that tonight.

Once i do that...my connection status should not say OFF next to "Illumination Wire" correct? It should say LOW or HIGH, right?

also, how should I connect them....just crimp 'em?
Posted May 08, 2006 · 22:05 UTC#302
southcounty said:
sweet...i will try that tonight.

Once i do that...my connection status should not say OFF next to "Illumination Wire" correct? It should say LOW or HIGH, right?

also, how should I connect them....just crimp 'em?


Mine just shows "ON" or "OFF" in the connection status window when it's connected properly. Crimp is fine. Best is to solder but I always thought that to be a bit overboard and not necessarily better than crimping unless you're really good at soldering.
Posted May 08, 2006 · 22:32 UTC#303
Hi guys

Fixed the illumination wire and all is working great now, light flashing works great too, thank you for all your help.
Posted May 09, 2006 · 04:56 UTC#304
I just emailed the guy from cructchfield and he says that I wouldnt be able to install the avic z1 without modifiying my dash, he says they have to avic 1 is the 3 inch and the other is 4 inch for most japanese double din, but since my car is not japanese and is double din about 4 3/4 inches tall, how come it wouldnt fit the whole might be a little bigger than the unit size, but than comes the clips on the side maybe that has to do with it. I was really looking forward to getting this unit, how much modifcation would you guys think would be needed to make it happen ? I'll send some pics of my current set up
Posted May 09, 2006 · 05:15 UTC#305
outatime said:
Hi guys

Fixed the illumination wire and all is working great now, light flashing works great too, thank you for all your help.


This bodes well for me... awesome!

Question, you have the E-brake wire attached or not?

Now, if only I could make 2 months go by real fast so I can get home to my cars...
Posted May 09, 2006 · 11:35 UTC#306
Tyrant11429 said:
I just emailed the guy from cructchfield and he says that I wouldnt be able to install the avic z1 without modifiying my dash, he says they have to avic 1 is the 3 inch and the other is 4 inch for most japanese double din, but since my car is not japanese and is double din about 4 3/4 inches tall, how come it wouldnt fit the whole might be a little bigger than the unit size, but than comes the clips on the side maybe that has to do with it. I was really looking forward to getting this unit, how much modifcation would you guys think would be needed to make it happen ? I'll send some pics of my current set up


Sure please send some pics of your current setup, that might help me understand this better.

Go to www.installer.com and see what kind of adapter you can get for your car. If it's a double din and you have 7 inches of depth, you should be good to go, but I don't know enough about volvos. I don't know the difference between double din japanese and regular double din. I just might be confused.
Posted May 09, 2006 · 11:37 UTC#307
Herknav said:

Question, you have the E-brake wire attached or not?

Now, if only I could make 2 months go by real fast so I can get home to my cars...


You can connect it like regular as it says in the manual.

I just noticed you were "deployed". Thanks a lot for doing that for us. We are all pulling for you and I hope the two monts goes fast for you too. Come home safe!
Posted May 09, 2006 · 13:34 UTC#308
I have an 06 Avalanche and I just had it professionally installed (sorry I do not know much about the wiring and setup). I have read the entire thread. The light trick does not work for me (I have the auto headlights which have 3 settings) but on the Z1 under Hardware Status my Illumination says off all the time and the sky never changes on the Nav. I tested this yesterday when it was light out and then after it got dark. I am guessing they did not wire this part correctly? Thanks
Posted May 09, 2006 · 13:50 UTC#309
Im guessin they didnt hook up the ill wire.
Posted May 09, 2006 · 14:24 UTC#310
That could be why it is not working, correct? Thanks
Posted May 09, 2006 · 14:39 UTC#311
Guest said:
That could be why it is not working, correct? Thanks


I agree with 03Vic, I'm thinking they didn't hook up that wire.
Posted May 09, 2006 · 22:11 UTC#312
Anonymous said:
I installed the Z1 in my 06 Dodge Ram. I do not have the speed pulse wire connected because I guess the new chrysler vehicles don't come with actual wires, i guess everything is computerized, but the location of the car on the map is pretty accurate without it, so i say its works pretty good with just the GPS antenna. I am gonna try the light flickering thing when i get off work, but I actually bypassed it another way, requires a little work, but not tough. Considering your not using a backup camera or having extra tv's in ur car, I ran a really short RCA cable from the rear monitor outputs ( since those can be watched while the car is in motion or not ) into the backup camera input. I then installed a switch on the reverse wire and turned on the rear display to DVD. Now all I do is flick on the reverse toggle switch and bam, it tricks the unit into thinking its recieving a rear view camera image when really its getting the image from the rear tv outputs. The neat thing about this is that when ur using navigation and u hit the rear view map, you can actually watch the video and see the map on the side at the same time :D ... so ya.. i have the parking brake on a switch too so i can use the nav controls while im in motion. It works like a charm... i just have to deal with two switches...
Posted May 10, 2006 · 00:49 UTC#313
What about the audio. Can you have the sound also with using the back up camera input?
Posted May 10, 2006 · 04:41 UTC#314
escalado1 said:
What about the audio. Can you have the sound also with using the back up camera input?


The audio from the DVD will play, even on Map mode - so yes, the audio comes out the speakers, the video routes out the rear monitor output ->into the camera input...

Rick
Posted May 10, 2006 · 05:29 UTC#315
In regards to the earlier post with the f150. I've looked at the harness and there is not a "orange" wire. Like orange/red and stuff but like the similar post with the f350 owner..my shop told me that there wasn't a wire...i'm completely confused. If you get this to work i'd appreciate it if you could let me know. Meanwhile I'm going to attempt to crimp this to my park light switch.
Posted May 10, 2006 · 17:17 UTC#316
F150 owner here.....

I havent had a chance to look behind my unit...but thatnk for the info. Now i am not going to waste my time messing around in an area that I know nothing about. I guess I will just go to a good installer and explain my situation to him.

Also, Ducati boy....did I read correctly that I CAN connect my parking brake wire normally so I can avoid the "unhooked" message at startup......and still get the bypass to work once I get my ILLUM wire connected??
Posted May 10, 2006 · 18:00 UTC#317
southcounty said:

Also, Ducati boy....did I read correctly that I CAN connect my parking brake wire normally so I can avoid the "unhooked" message at startup......and still get the bypass to work once I get my ILLUM wire connected??


Yes, I would recommend to keep the parking brake connected like it says in the instructions to avoid a possible "not connected properly" message. Then flashing your lights with the illumination line connected properly will bypass everything. Don't even touch your parking brake.... you can leave it "floating" not connected to anything, and just tape it up, but I connected it to the parking brake anyway, just incase I want to "ground" it some time.
Posted May 10, 2006 · 18:00 UTC#318
ducatiboy said:
Herknav said:

Question, you have the E-brake wire attached or not?

Now, if only I could make 2 months go by real fast so I can get home to my cars...


You can connect it like regular as it says in the manual.

I just noticed you were "deployed". Thanks a lot for doing that for us. We are all pulling for you and I hope the two monts goes fast for you too. Come home safe!


Thanks, I appreciate it!


Just ordered the Z1, Bluetooth, and XM Traffic from Crutchfield so it should be waiting for me when I get home.

Now, the hard part... I am trying to decide if I "need" this for my WRX too...
Posted May 10, 2006 · 20:08 UTC#319
OK NOW I AM CONFUSED....YOU SAID TO CONNECT MY PARKING BRAKE WIRE LIKE THE MANUAL SAYS......

AND THEN YOU SAID DONT TOUCH IT... THAT I COULD LEAVE IT FLOATING.

I AM GOING RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THE INSTALLER RECONNECT MY PARKING BRAK AND THE ILLUM WIRE .....
Posted May 10, 2006 · 20:15 UTC#320
Bypass works GREAT!! Thanks for all the information!!

This deck is absolutely awesome. Did anyone notice that if the bypass is completely successfully, you will see the Pioneer logo again when entering Navi mode.

Also, it says my parking brake is disconnected when the bypass is enabled although it is always grounded.

Can't say enough about the ipod 100, I never used it to its full capability with my N1.
Posted May 10, 2006 · 20:20 UTC#321
Anonymous said:
OK NOW I AM CONFUSED....YOU SAID TO CONNECT MY PARKING BRAKE WIRE LIKE THE MANUAL SAYS......

AND THEN YOU SAID DONT TOUCH IT... THAT I COULD LEAVE IT FLOATING.

I AM GOING RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THE INSTALLER RECONNECT MY PARKING BRAK AND THE ILLUM WIRE .....


Well owning an automatic, and not fully testing these things on more than my car has me confused too. Sorry for the learning curve. I'm learning the ins and outs of this as you all are too. There are bound to be confusion and growning pains. And you don't have to SHOUT, we can all hear you.

I did say to connect it like it said in the manual, but I don't use my parking brake at all (being an automatic and all). And it worked great. I just tested it and if the parking brake is on (that line grounded) the head light flashing doesn't work.

You can hook it up like in the manual if like me you never use your parking brake.

If you use your parking brake and you want to flash your headlights, you should leave it floating (not connected to anything) and just tape it up. If you plan on flashing your headlights when you turn on your car every time, you will be fine (with the parking brake not connected to anything). You might want to connect it to a toggle switch so you could ground it if you decided you wanted to at some point in the future.

But you don't want the parking brake grounded when flashing your lights. Not grounded all the time and not grounded by connecting it like the manual says and having the parking brake on. Either one of these will cause the flashing the lights trick not to work. I have heard rumors that if the parking brake line is not grounded when you start the car, and then flash your lights and some time while you are driving you have the parking brake line grounded (you apply the parking brake) the flash the lights bypass will be rendered inoperable for the remainder of the drive (till you turn the car off and back on again).
Posted May 10, 2006 · 20:23 UTC#322
isdnmatt said:
Also, it says my parking brake is disconnected when the bypass is enabled although it is always grounded.


Really? I just tried it, grounding the parking brake and the headlight trick doesn't work. Are you sure that parking brake line is connected to ground?

Maybe there is more to this whole parking brake thing than I thought. Or maybe by having it grounded all the time, if you don't flash your headlights do you see the "warning your parking brake is not connected properly" message?
Posted May 10, 2006 · 20:51 UTC#323
This weekend I will be rewiring some stuff in my car and I will disconnect the pbrake wire and let it float. I'll report back on the results and whether or not it gives the pbrake warning message when it's not connected. I can't imagine it will since its the same as leaving your parking brake off.
Posted May 10, 2006 · 21:13 UTC#324
The orange wire will not be on the factory harness, it will be on the factory adaptoer harness...
Posted May 10, 2006 · 21:39 UTC#325
edrock200 said:
This weekend I will be rewiring some stuff in my car and I will disconnect the pbrake wire and let it float. I'll report back on the results and whether or not it gives the pbrake warning message when it's not connected. I can't imagine it will since its the same as leaving your parking brake off.


I believe that once you see that parking brake warning, you will see it forever untill you reset your unit.
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