Well the problem is the unit is in the shop right now and they are doing it as we speak.

Should I tell them not to ground the parking break? OR is that fine grounded.

i am in need of a buy pass for my z1 any help?????

Anonymous said:

Should I tell them not to ground the parking break? OR is that fine grounded.

If you were going to manually flash your lights or you were going to have a circuit installed (either mine or a TR7 set), then don't even connect it to anything. And you don't want it grounded all the time. You can have it connected to the parking brake like it's supposed to be, but if you use the parking brake that will interfere with your flashing lights working.

Read #4 and #5 here:
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285

Anonymous said:

i am in need of a buy pass for my z1 any help?????

Read #1 here:
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285

Ok thanks, I was a little confused. I apprechiate the info. Hopefully this is a clean install and I can do the flash even after they put the switch in. I am not sure they really know what they are doing, but they said the only way the switch interferes is with the speed gyro. But if this fix is better all around I would like to use it.

They really were not listening to me when I called and said their version worked, so since I only heard good things of them, I am hoping they know something we dont.

I am completely confused...

I installed the Z1 in my suburban using the Metra VT-GMOS-04 for the Bose and Onstar integration... and recently found that my Illumination wire on the Metra VT-GMOS-04 is connected to PIN 12 and on the factory connector is on PIN 6. I moved the Metra VT-GMOS-04 to PIN 6 to match, but it still doesn't work. Used the multimeter to test it, and it is only .02 volts when car is started with no lights, then goes to around .6 Volts with lights on.
I leave for an 18hr road trip from Texas to Florida in three days and really need this working before then. Any recommendations will help!?!?!?!

I have seen threads from other Chevy Silverado owners who are having a similar problem... I think the Chevys handle the dimmer/illum different.

kroberts said:

I am completely confused...

I installed the Z1 in my suburban using the Metra VT-GMOS-04 for the Bose and Onstar integration... and recently found that my Illumination wire on the Metra VT-GMOS-04 is connected to PIN 12 and on the factory connector is on PIN 6. I moved the Metra VT-GMOS-04 to PIN 6 to match, but it still doesn't work. Used the multimeter to test it, and it is only .02 volts when car is started with no lights, then goes to around .6 Volts with lights on.
I leave for an 18hr road trip from Texas to Florida in three days and really need this working before then. Any recommendations will help!?!?!?!

I have seen threads from other Chevy Silverado owners who are having a similar problem... I think the Chevys handle the dimmer/illum different.

Well, if your vehicle uses a pulsed signal to control the dimming of the lights, the volt meter won't read 12v, I will read something like 4v - 8v or something (I would guess). Reading 0.02V to 0.6 volts is not going to cut it.

If you want something quick and dirty, go buy yourself a radio shack toggle switch wire it up to 12V switched through the toggle switch and to your ill line on your head unit. Usually the 12V should not be connected (maybe make it a momentairy toggle switch) and when you want to flash the lights flip the switch (if you want to hit that switch to dim the lights you might not want it momentairy). Or you could hunt down a line which goes to 12V when you turn on your head lights.

Or maybe the metra was right all along... what's the voltage on pin 12 when the lights are on? I wish I knew more about chevy wiring for you, but I don't. Maybe someone out there has a wiring diagram or something. But since you know your way around a meter, maybe try unhooking the metra harness compleately from the car and using the meter probe all of those pins that come out of the factory harness and see what's there and see if the light/dimmer line in on any of them. If you find one that turns on and off with the lights, but doesn't got to 12V (only like 4v-8v or something) try adjusting the dimmer control on the dash, see if that changes the voltage. And if that works, measure AC voltage and you should see something, then that means it's a signal powering your dimmer. But the Z1 and my circuit will handle that signal type.

Thanks for the info. It seems like I read through the 20+ pages of this thing every night to try and makes sense of this! :~)

I tried sensing several of the pins from the back while connected and disconnected to the metra... after so many tries, it gets confusing... just know I never found anything seeming to be regulated by the dimmer and nothing of high enough voltage to be close to 12 off of what was marked Illum and/or dimm from the factory side.

I do appreciate your input though. I will probably try the toggle option short term, and hit you up for your switched solution when I get back from my trip.

BTW, this unit balls! Got my Onstar, XM, Bluetooth and rear camera all hooked up. I had also seen someone complain of the mp3 quality, but mine sounds great with 128k or better. VERY pleased with this unit despite my problems with the OEM setup(I believe that is Chevy's problem with a one-off)

kroberts said:

I am completely confused...

I installed the Z1 in my suburban using the Metra VT-GMOS-04 for the Bose and Onstar integration... and recently found that my Illumination wire on the Metra VT-GMOS-04 is connected to PIN 12 and on the factory connector is on PIN 6. I moved the Metra VT-GMOS-04 to PIN 6 to match, but it still doesn't work. Used the multimeter to test it, and it is only .02 volts when car is started with no lights, then goes to around .6 Volts with lights on.
I leave for an 18hr road trip from Texas to Florida in three days and really need this working before then. Any recommendations will help!?!?!?!

I have seen threads from other Chevy Silverado owners who are having a similar problem... I think the Chevys handle the dimmer/illum different.

I found this on www.the12volt.com

2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 4DR SUV WITH 5.3L ENGINE AND STANDARD AUDIO SYSTEM
Audio/Mobile Video
WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION
Battery ORANGE (+) RADIO HARNESS
Accesory
THE RADIO HARNESS DOES NOT PROVIDE A SWITCHED POWER SOURCE. RUN A WIRE TO THE FUSEBOX FOR SWITCHED POWER. THE ACCESSORY TURN-ON AND AMPLIFIER TURN-ON ARE CONTROLLED BY THE CLASS 2 SERIAL NETWORK.

Ground BLACK/WHITE (-) RADIO HARNESS
Illumination BROWN (+) RADIO HARNESS
Dimmer GRAY (+) RADIO HARNESS
LF Speaker (+) TAN
LF Speaker (-) GRAY
RF Speaker (+) LIGHT GREEN
RF Speaker (-) DARK GREEN
LR Speaker (+) BROWN
LR Speaker (-) YELLOW
RR Speaker (+) DARK BLUE
RR Speaker (-) LIGHT BLUE
Steering Cntrls OPTIONAL
THIS VEHICLE MAY BE EQUIPPED WITH OPTIONAL ONSTAR® TELEMATICS EQUIPMENT. USE AN APPROPRIATE INTEGRATION HARNESS OR INSTALLATION PROCEDURE TO ENSURE PROPER FUNCTION OF THIS EQUIPMENT.
Speed Cntrl OPTIONAL
Radio Security YES



I don't know if it's the same as what you got, but it looks like the dimmer might be brown or grey. Double check those wires. Hook a meter to them and turn the lights on and off and let us know what you find.

Thanks ducatiboy.

I will get to this in the next day or two, so I will get back with the results.

appreciate your time!

Is there a way with out boiding the warranty to bypass the video lock out from my Avic-Z1 and if there is what is it.
THANKS"

AVICZ1 said:

Is there a way with out boiding the warranty to bypass the video lock out from my Avic-Z1 and if there is what is it.
THANKS"

You might want to read the thread you just posted this in.

Or
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=351
Or
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=301
Or
http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285

Gee talk about not reading a damn thing.

And people think I'm crazy when I say that I get emailed asking me how people can order my circuit. Because the emailer asking the question most likely got my email address from the post telling people how to order them.

also i will be posting a full writeup on how to dsiable the interlock on the N3. mine will be here today, on my bench tonite. we'll see if i cant get that sticker off without tearing it...yea right

...skeeter...

I REALLY don't think you will ever see Pioneer fix this bypass. This is something they WANT to have out. It sells units! I for one would never buy one of these if I couldn't use the NAV features while in motion. What a waste without it. Just like the original hack for the D1 was leaked by a Pioneer rep...don't be surprised if this one wasn't too.

Ducatiboy...I think you said you installed your unit in an Aviator. That's what I want to put it in too (an 03). If you don't mind, I would like to PM or email you about what you found necessary to purchase so I can get everything ordered at once and get it right the first time. I will also want one of your bypass kits. Did you by the PAC unit to hardwire the steering wheel controls too? Have to have those!!

Your time and effort spent on this board is exemplary and I commend you for all your hard work. Not many would have been so willing.

By the way....since this bypass has to be done during boot up, I honestly feel there is some validity to one of the original posts regarding a bios upgrade...but we never heard another word. I think that may be the ultimate "hack" to this.

03Aviator said:

I REALLY don't think you will ever see Pioneer fix this bypass. This is something they WANT to have out. It sells units! I for one would never buy one of these if I couldn't use the NAV features while in motion. What a waste without it. Just like the original hack for the D1 was leaked by a Pioneer rep...don't be surprised if this one wasn't too.

Ducatiboy...I think you said you installed your unit in an Aviator. That's what I want to put it in too (an 03). If you don't mind, I would like to PM or email you about what you found necessary to purchase so I can get everything ordered at once and get it right the first time. I will also want one of your bypass kits. Did you by the PAC unit to hardwire the steering wheel controls too? Have to have those!!

Your time and effort spent on this board is exemplary and I commend you for all your hard work. Not many would have been so willing.

By the way....since this bypass has to be done during boot up, I honestly feel there is some validity to one of the original posts regarding a bios upgrade...but we never heard another word. I think that may be the ultimate "hack" to this.

No problem. Yes I have it in an 03 Aviator, and it fits great.
http://www.sminnick.com/AviatorRadio/

I got the standard Crutchfield wiring harness for that and the adapter kit. I had ordered the Z1 from them but when other people had started getting it in and Crutchfield did not, I canceled my order after I had received all the free instructions and harnesses and all.

I got the SWI-PS and wired it in, the instructions from PAC for an 03 aviator are WRONG though, the harness is not like they list it in the instructions, look at the Lincoln LS I believe. Just look for a Lincoln with a 20 pin harness, which is what the Aviator has. They say it has a 24 pin which is wrong. But the instructions for any other lincoln with the 20 pin harness is correct.

It was pretty streight forward of an install. You pry off the little rectangular part on the top of the dash, then there are 2 screws under it and the whole face plate pops off. Then pop off the part with the clock, unscrew the radio and it comes right out.

thanks to all who figured out the bypass by flashing ur lights i just got the z1 installed today and it works it unlock the dvd, tv, nav

finally got my N3 fully installed. 11 friggan hours. that wasnt just the N3... i'll post all my pics up tomorrow...

loving an unlocked N3, thanks to you guys!!

...skeeter...

Err did you mean Z1? Or are you saying the N3 can use the "headlight flash" bypass?

So whats the deal with this mysterious file Bpz1s.kwi ?? Did anyone get it? Whats the status? Does it work is it real?

- 23T

23T said:

So whats the deal with this mysterious file Bpz1s.kwi ?? Did anyone get it? Whats the status? Does it work is it real?

- 23T

At this point I think its safe to say it was a fake post (or Pioneer put out a hit on that guy.) ;)

probably so. The crazy thing is the filename sounds believable, even if its a map-related file.


- 23T

what about this switch on the unit behind a sticker...has anyone looked to see, i dont mind the 'risk' of voiding the warranty if there really is a switch back there that works..but i would not be happy to look back there, have no switch waiting for me and void the warranty on top of that.

Thats an N3, no switch on a Z1

Anonymous said:

what about this switch on the unit behind a sticker...has anyone looked to see, i dont mind the 'risk' of voiding the warranty if there really is a switch back there that works..but i would not be happy to look back there, have no switch waiting for me and void the warranty on top of that.