You know, I ordered mine before I came across this site. I started reading the horrors, and then started looking for a different one before I canceled my F. But for some reason, after checking them all out and playing with the demos in the stores, I just didn't like them. I like Pioneer. Its like that girlfriend that pisses you off, but you love her anyway. I would rather get an F and hope the new firmware comes out, than "settle" for another. I will just wait it out.