Surovich Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I've have an Avic-D3 in my car for about 8 months in my brand new Vue - and since Ive had it in, my battery will die ifI dont start the car for more than a day or two. Ive tested the install and all is good - the radio turns off, I dont see a huge draw on the battery (amp check) but it kills my battery. I have the D3 on an amp since I bought it knowing the speaker hookups didnt work (seems the internal amp is dead) but the preamps work great. I also have the PAC add on to retain steering wheel control. So, two questions - any idea on the battery? Could it be the PAC? or a bad radio? Ayone have an idea to fix the D3 amp issue? I could then get rid of the amp and take that out of the loop. (The amp is turning off as well, tested with voltmeter). Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Po Poe Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I've had that same problem in 3 different Gm vehicles that were all either brand new or under a year old and each time it turn out to be a defective o.e.m battery. You should have it tested. Especially if it's one of those Deka ones Gm likes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hottwhyrd Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 unplug amp and d3 overnight and then tty to start in morning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surovich Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I should have mentioned more of the history : (I had the car at the dealer last week with the D3 in and they saw nothing on all diag tests - alternator/battery/charging all test good) I thought it was bad battery, so I replaced it and had the car off all Xmas week and it started right up (5 days without a start). Now, about 1 1/2 months later Im back to the 1 or 2 day no starting.... When I went on vacation in December I pulled the fuses for the radio/acc and made sure nothing powered - came back after 6 days and car wouldnt start (I must admit this was odd). Last week I pulled my D3 and mu car sat Thurs from 5pm to Sunday night at 7pm and started right up (even in 4 degree weather with a -15 wind chill). I may put the D3 back in to see if the same thing happens again.... Just as, yet another test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crxxfactor Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Unless you have Kintec battery or a Optima yo shit will die in less the four days sorry bro...O and u can always pout a toggle on the romete wire or jus take the fuse out from under the battery...U could also fork out about 150 I think and send it to United Radio for them to fix the D3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surovich Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 So will a D3 always kill the battery in 4 days? Im for a new battery if the Kintec or Optima will do my needs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 No a d3 will not kill a battery in 4 days. You have an issue somewhere in the vehicle it may or may not have anything to do with the avic. You don't happen to have an aftermarket overhead installed in the vehicle do you? Just as an fyi most dealer mechanics I've dealt with don't know the right way to do a current draw check. Might want to consider talking to someone at an audio shop about having one done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surovich Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I thought that a D3 killing a battery like that was odd.... Ok, so I have to have an amp since my D3's speaker output is messed - So anyone have that URL for the place that will repair it? I know you can go Speaker -> RCA, is there a device that goes RCA -> Speaker wires? My Vue has the advanced audio, so I have the AMP in the card that came stock that should power without an issue. Ill also pull the PAC audio - that has a wire that goes to Accessory, which concerned me - Could that be drawing power causing the dead battery? Thanks for the input! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Po Poe Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Are you sure the parasitic drain is not coming from the stock amp? I saw that once in a 98 maxima when the factory radio was re installed after the installers chopped up the wire harness to put in an after market radio. see if you can get a volt meter on that stock amp power terminal with the car and the D3 turned off see if there is current draw after that unplug the d3 and check it again. You should be able to get the tip of the voltmeter probe into the holes on the stock amp's wiring harness then ground the negative probe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hottwhyrd Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 wow crxxfactor. if you dont have good info or help then you probly shouldnt post on here. what cousin of yours told you that "if you dont got optima or kinetic ur shits gonna die" like brand name really tells you how good of a batery it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Po Poe Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 My 8 year old son says to me "cant he just leave the radio plugged in and unplug the factory amp and see if the battery still gets weak"Lol kids think so simply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crxxfactor Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 11 years as a car audio pro and if there is a battery issue do a current draw test.I always change factory batteris out its a wise thing to..hottwhyrd a brand name does tell how good a battery is goin to be.Reserch those names u could learn something.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 My 8 year old son says to me "cant he just leave the radio plugged in and unplug the factory amp and see if the battery still gets weak"Lolkids think so simply. Sometimes the simple thing is the best thing to do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 11 years as a car audio pro and if there is a battery issue do a current draw test.I always change factory batteris out its a wise thing to..hottwhyrd a brand name does tell how good a battery is goin to be.Reserch those names u could learn something.. NOT TRUE AT ALL. I've seen, on more that one occasion, Optima batteries (which people swear on their momma's soul are some kind of super battery which is gonna last a lifetime and always have a charge) go bad within months of installation. Then I've seen no-name batteries go for 5 years plus without incident. Shelling out more money for a high-end battery is not worth it. Especially since a battery that costs half as much could possibly last much, much longer. And even if it doesn't, it's no big deal to replace it, because you didn't pay a lot for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surovich Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Thanks again guys... I was debating pulling the stock amp since Im not using it - Im using only the new after market amp (which I have tested and no power is going to it or being used when the car is off). Now I just need to find the factory amp on my 2007 Vue.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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