Z1 HDD format

[edrock200]

[quote name="docluv01"]has anyone tried the xbox trick?

i dont have an xbox, otherwise id try it....[/quote]

I've hacked an xbox if thats what you mean.

[06PSDDually]

[quote name="palacios"] [quote name="06PSDDually"]Would love to just load 15-20 gigs of mp3s and maybe some videos on the hdd[/quote]That's funny considering that we only have 10GB to work with.[/quote]


Why do some people always have to find fault in others?

[docluv01]

[quote name="edrock200"] [quote name="docluv01"]has anyone tried the xbox trick?

i dont have an xbox, otherwise id try it....[/quote]

I've hacked an xbox if thats what you mean.[/quote]

I meant, has anyone tried the xbox hack to get into teh Z1 drive...

[edrock200]

[quote name="docluv01"] [quote name="edrock200"] [quote name="docluv01"]has anyone tried the xbox trick?

i dont have an xbox, otherwise id try it....[/quote]

I've hacked an xbox if thats what you mean.[/quote]

I meant, has anyone tried the xbox hack to get into teh Z1 drive...[/quote]

I doubt thats possible but it would be very easy to hack an xbox and hook it up to the AV inputs on the Z1 and use a remote to address it.

[Guest]

anyone has an spare z1 hdd? maybe we can foward it to guys at high tech blog and see if anyone can hack it? websites like engadget or gizmodo, they have millions of reader and i'm sure they will be able to find someone who's able to crack it.... but if it stays in this forum chances are we are stuck with 10gb of music.

[murzik]

[url=http://www.vogon-forensic-hardware.co.uk/forensic-hardware/data-capture/password-cracker-pod.htm]http://www.vogon-forensic-hardware.co.u ... er-pod.htm[/url]

[googalash]

Hello,

Just picked up a Z1 today going to be installing it tonight. Anyway I would love to be able to pull the drive and put a larger one much like I have done to xboxs and Tivos for ppl.

So just curious if anyone has had any luck yet cracking the password.

[palacios]

06PSDDually,

It was just a joke. It's not like I wake up every morning and have a mission to read everybody's posts just to find errors. We're all human, we all make mistakes. I didn't mean to insult you. I too would love to load this thing with 20gigs of MP3s but like [b]edrock200[/b] said, that's only gonna happen if we can migrate our 30gig HDD to a bigger one.

[charliex]

forget the xbox its not going to work, anything the xbox can do with the drive a PC can so the software would exist on the pc too, the passwords on the xbox are sniffable and can be regenerated.

swap the powered up drives ith a pc, use a modded ide cable to split power.

[Guest]

[quote name="murzik"]http://www.vogon-forensic-hardware.co.uk/forensic-hardware/data-capture/password-cracker-pod.htm[/quote]
anyone wanna try this?

also i found a website that might be able to help us out, if u have a hdd that u can send to them or simply ask them to post a request to see if anyone is able to get the z1 hdd to copy or read. [url=http://www.hackaday.com/]http://www.hackaday.com/[/url]

[docluv01]

Does anyone know what exact model hard drive is in the unit?

I think I recall reading that it was a toshiba drive. If thats the case, they do have some backdoor passwords that toshiba uses to unlock drives. But, it depends on the model.

[Pulp_Fiction]

[quote name="docluv01"]Does anyone know what exact model hard drive is in the unit?

I think I recall reading that it was a toshiba drive. If thats the case, they do have some backdoor passwords that toshiba uses to unlock drives. But, it depends on the model.[/quote]

It is, I don't recall the exact model but I tried the default passwords I could find. Do you have a list of passwords?

What I can tell you is if you remove your HDD and install a new, blank drive the Z1 will lock it for you. I suspect the following:

If you need to order a new HDD from pioneer they will send one that is unlocked and preloaded or is locked with a default password.
When you install the drive, the Z1 will either perform the initial lock (if unlocked) or use the existing password to unlock and change the drive password to whatever your Z1 uses.
I suspect it does this so it can use a custom password for each Z1 instead of one generic password for all units.

[toy]

this is what I think, if enough people complain about not being able to upgrade the HDD, pioneer will release a firmware that allows you to copy HDD or at least a factory upgrade option.

[url=http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/contact/us/0,,2076_138787615,00.html]http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/c ... 15,00.html[/url]

[toy]

[quote name="murzik"]http://www.vogon-forensic-hardware.co.uk/forensic-hardware/data-capture/password-cracker-pod.htm[/quote]

where can i get one of this, and also didn't someone mention it is unix based? this thing is windows based, so even if it is cracked, how do you access files in windows?

[edrock200]

[quote name="toy"]this is what I think, if enough people complain about not being able to upgrade the HDD, pioneer will release a firmware that allows you to copy HDD or at least a factory upgrade option.

[url=http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/contact/us/0,,2076_138787615,00.html]http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/c ... 15,00.html[/url][/quote]

Unfortunately I doubt this will ever happen. Pioneer won't deal with the support nightmare of people hacking their HD's or the potential lawsuites that would follow. If this gets hacked it will be purely a home-brew operation. That being said, home-brew operations aren't necessarily bad, many develop into full blown apps that are as good as or better than their retail conterparts, for example XBMC.