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[quote name="docluv01"]Any luck guys? im tryign to locate an xbox so i can try the xbox trick...[/quote]

Xbox trick shouldn't work.

At this point until I find a way to retrieve the existing password from a drive that is unlocked I'm not going to work that hard on opening it for just a one time thing. The Z1 appears to relock the drive every time since it locked a previously unlocked drive by just installing it for a minute.
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Actually all xboxes lock and unlock drives on the fly like that. And if you hack an xbox, you can use the new bios you hacked into your xbox to lock and unlock hard drives at will. It might work. I don't know if there is a password that has to be cracked (at least if there is the xbox programs used to lock and unlock drives don't seem to need them). The xbox thing might work. I'm still too chicken to try it with my Z1. :)
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[quote name="Pulp_Fiction"] [quote name="docluv01"]Any luck guys? im tryign to locate an xbox so i can try the xbox trick...[/quote]

Xbox trick shouldn't work.

At this point until I find a way to retrieve the existing password from a drive that is unlocked I'm not going to work that hard on opening it for just a one time thing. The Z1 appears to relock the drive every time since it locked a previously unlocked drive by just installing it for a minute.[/quote]
I work for a large data storage manufacturer in the mid west and we do the same thing to serial ata (sata) drives. We apply a "signature" to the drive and it is married to that particular unit. I don't know about Pioneer, but you can't simply unlock one of our sata drives. You actually need a special file to go out there and do it for you. Unfotunately, when customers do that, they automatically void their warranty and we charge them a butt load to unlock their drive. Food for thought if you have to go back to Pioneer.
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I work for a large data storage manufacturer in the mid west and we do the same thing to serial ata (sata) drives. We apply a "signature" to the drive and it is married to that particular unit. I don't know about Pioneer, but you can't simply unlock one of our sata drives. You actually need a special file to go out there and do it for you. Unfotunately, when customers do that, they automatically void their warranty and we charge them a butt load to unlock their drive. Food for thought if you have to go back to Pioneer.[/quote]

very interesting. Thanks for the info. But is the locking the same for SATA as it is for ATA. The drives we are using is are ATA. And the xbox bios's can lock and unlock with ease. Maybe the new SATA drives are harder to lock and unlock. Do you have any experiance with ATA drive locking as well?
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[quote name="ducatiboy"] [quote name="Chuckzul"]
I work for a large data storage manufacturer in the mid west and we do the same thing to serial ata (sata) drives. We apply a "signature" to the drive and it is married to that particular unit. I don't know about Pioneer, but you can't simply unlock one of our sata drives. You actually need a special file to go out there and do it for you. Unfotunately, when customers do that, they automatically void their warranty and we charge them a butt load to unlock their drive. Food for thought if you have to go back to Pioneer.[/quote]

very interesting. Thanks for the info. But is the locking the same for SATA as it is for ATA. The drives we are using is are ATA. And the xbox bios's can lock and unlock with ease. Maybe the new SATA drives are harder to lock and unlock. Do you have any experiance with ATA drive locking as well?[/quote]

My understanding of the xbox locking and unlocking is the software used decyphers or sniffs what the password is while the xbox is performing the unlock. Since each xbox has a different password based on the serial number of the unit discovering the formula or a method to sniff the password is all they had to do. It does not use a univeral solution to break into the drive. Since I now have a Z1 locked drive i have no issues with loading it into my xbox and seeing what it will do with it.
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[quote name="charliex"] i'd open up the Z1 , boot it up next to a PC and swap the cable after its booted and unlocked the drive.[/quote]

Bingo... That's the only way your going to get into the drive... The only other problem is that the drives power is built into the main ribbon cable connector ... ( if it's a laptop HD, which I'm certain it is.. ). So, you'd actually have to modify some sort of cable adapter / power splitter to be able to keep power on the drive during the whole process...

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The Z1 runs Microsoft Windows Automotive, which is based on Windows CE.NET.

See:
[url=http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-6413238.html]http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-6413238.html[/url]

[url=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/windowsautomotive/default.mspx]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedd ... fault.mspx[/url]

[url=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/jan06/01-05InfotainmentExperiencesPR.mspx]http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/pres ... cesPR.mspx[/url]

I don't know anything about the drive format (I don't even have a unit yet), but this page:
[url=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/windowsautomotive/become.mspx]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedd ... ecome.mspx[/url]

includes info for developers looking to write apps for MWA. Presumably someone could download CE.NET (plus any special MWA SDKs) to gain access to the Z1 hard drive (and maybe write some add-on apps). I guess you'd still need to get past the ATA lock, unless it's a documented part of MWA/CE.NET.

Hope this helps,
Bram
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[quote name="palacios"] [quote name="06PSDDually"]Would love to just load 15-20 gigs of mp3s and maybe some videos on the hdd[/quote]That's funny considering that we only have 10GB to work with.[/quote]

Unless you migrated the existing data to a larger HD.
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