epsilonkore Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Unless they have a WiFi chip built in that they are not advertising in the specs, I am guessing we wont see this feature. If it was advertised as "CarPlay Bluetooth Ready" we might have a shot, but its not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ericvic Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 WHAT? Does the Alpine really lack any dedicated GPS antenna? What a shame if this is actually the case. If it is a CarPlay only display then I don't see what an external GPS antenna would get you. The iPhone only uses its internal GPS antenna and does not take advantage of an external antenna. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 If it is a CarPlay only display then I don't see what an external GPS antenna would get you. The iPhone only uses its internal GPS antenna and does not take advantage of an external antenna. Incorrect. The iPhone can use an external GPS antenna when appropriate, and in the case of pioneer head units with built in GPS the iPhone is able to use it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ericvic Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Incorrect. The iPhone can use an external GPS antenna when appropriate, and in the case of pioneer head units with built in GPS the iPhone is able to use it. Show me proof that the iPhone can use an external GPS antenna. There are external GPS receivers but in my searches I cannot find any evidence that the iPhone can use an external antenna (not receiver). Plus there are no pins on the lightning connector to pass the signal from a GPS antenna. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarNPlay Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Show me proof that the iPhone can use an external GPS antenna. There are external GPS receivers but in my searches I cannot find any evidence that the iPhone can use an external antenna (not receiver). Plus there are no pins on the lightning connector to pass the signal from a GPS antenna.Pioneer's Appradio 4 does not have native GPS navigation; the only navigation possible is through the connected phone. Nevertheless, it includes an external GPS antenna for the following reason: "included external GPS antenna for boosting signal while using GPS apps" (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130SPDA120/Pioneer-SPH-DA120-AppRadio-4.html) For what other reason would Pioneer include a GPS antenna for a unit where navigation is possible only through a connected phone? (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Car/SPH-DA120_InstallationManual070714.pdf) And it's not like Pioneer is new to the iPhone GPS boosting game, as they offered this in 2011 for the old 30-pin iPhones (http://9to5mac.com/2011/01/05/pioneer-announces-iphone-gps-booster-with-built-in-speakerphone/) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Show me proof that the iPhone can use an external GPS antenna. There are external GPS receivers but in my searches I cannot find any evidence that the iPhone can use an external antenna (not receiver). Plus there are no pins on the lightning connector to pass the signal from a GPS antenna. Look at the Appradio forum to see users using iPod touches to run Appradio mode. Ligning is a digital solution. There is no need for a dedicated Gps input. It's just data. Just like the data from the headunit of where you're touching the screen, or the voice from the microphone, the gps signal is sent to the phone via Usb 2.0. You're talkig about 480mbs transfer rate for the port. There's plenty of bandwidth for the gps data. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flux_capacitor Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 According to Pioneer directly on their web site: GPS antenna to ensure accurate positioning whilst the phone is inside the car. (External GPS Antenna included) ericvic and KarNPlay are right: sometimes the GPS reception of an iPhone can be poor in certain circumstances and when this is the case the dedicated GPS antenna is there to provide a good reception. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flux_capacitor Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Almost nobody seems to have hands on this unit yet. As of Early November I found only those two short videos: - Unboxing where John Haynes from Al & Ed's Autosound talks of an MSRP of $599 (instead of $800) - from Inphase Car Audio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoobBubes Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Almost nobody seems to have hands on this unit yet. As of Early November I found only those two short videos: - Unboxing where John Haynes from Al & Ed's Autosound talks of an MSRP of $599 (instead of $800) - Quick demo on a Jeep dashboard from Inphase Car Audio. Thanks for those links. I have the unit on order from Crutchfield and keep hoping that it will ship soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mab6680 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 i only paid $650 for my 7000NEX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoobBubes Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Nice review/write-up: http://www.carstereochick.com/2014/11/06/alpine-ilx-007-review/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoobBubes Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 http://www.pacificstereo.com/reviews/alpine-iLX-007-review.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flux_capacitor Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Alpine ILX-007 vs Pioneer AppRadio 4/SPH-DA120: http://www.carstereochick.com/2014/11/10/best-carplay-stereo-ilx-007-appradio-4-video-post/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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