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By jasonnorm · Sep 04, 2008in Hacks/Mods💬 370 posts👁️ 176,776 views
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Posted Feb 21, 2009 · 13:29 UTC#226

hello all guys and thank you for your preciouse infos that I founded here, now, after reading 15 pages I want make a summary for undertsand if i know all the necessary procedures to make my f900bt ready to be using during a standard travel with my car, like the portable gps navigator like garmin and tom tom.

 

after installation I must be done this few things :

 

1) place on ground (negative) the parking wire (absolutely necessary !)

2) make the software tricks with the help of the testmode , change 16 to 256 and so on.

 

3) ....... I don't know is more actions need to complete the modification.

 

 

 

but, yes, but....

 

now can I watch my dvd on driving/travel ?

can i use my gps navigation system to ask new POI or destination or address ecc ecc ?

 

does my unit exactly the same thing of a tom tom portable unit or many other functionality are disable cause I drive the car and I'm not stop with the car at 0 km/h ?

 

please, it's very impoirtant for me that all the features of this f900bt will be enable and visible.

 

thank you for all of you that can help me.

 

regards

Posted Feb 22, 2009 · 04:29 UTC#227
I have confirmed that changing the parking_break_speed value in the DATA.zip file (/project_config/pioneer.ini) does in fact bypass the video/gps restriction without changing any wiring. I set the value to 128.0 (thought it odd that they picked 16, so I assumed they were using the standard 1,2,4,8,16 binary notation so I chose a number that would fit in that series, hence 128).

 

I know this works because I just installed this unit 2 days ago and did NOT use any bypass. With the change made to the ini file, I can now enjoy video while traveling up to 128 MPH :D

 

QUESTION:

 

Which wires need grounding for the Software Bypass?

 

ANSWER:

 

Ground the green parking brake wire.

 

That's the only one? No others?

 

Well obviously you need to ground the ground just to get it to turn on, but to enable video/nav using the software bypass the only wire you need to ground is the green parking brake wire.
Posted Feb 22, 2009 · 16:18 UTC#228

Once i got the INI file changed, what is the process of getting it to the SDcard, such as...Do I put the whole data zip file on the sdcard or do i unzip it, then put it on the sdcard, or is it just a certain file from the data zip file i put on the sdcard? The once the info is on the SDcard how do i go about installing it on the stereo? ANY REPLIES ARE APPERICIATED.

Posted Feb 22, 2009 · 16:27 UTC#229
Once i got the INI file changed, what is the process of getting it to the SDcard, such as...Do I put the whole data zip file on the sdcard or do i unzip it, then put it on the sdcard, or is it just a certain file from the data zip file i put on the sdcard? The once the info is on the SDcard how do i go about installing it on the stereo? ANY REPLIES ARE APPERICIATED.

 

if you post your question 3 more times you will still get the same answer... so dont and read the thread you just created

Posted Feb 24, 2009 · 17:37 UTC#230
I have confirmed that changing the parking_break_speed value in the DATA.zip file (/project_config/pioneer.ini) does in fact bypass the video/gps restriction without changing any wiring. I set the value to 128.0 (thought it odd that they picked 16, so I assumed they were using the standard 1,2,4,8,16 binary notation so I chose a number that would fit in that series, hence 128).

 

I know this works because I just installed this unit 2 days ago and did NOT use any bypass. With the change made to the ini file, I can now enjoy video while traveling up to 128 MPH :D

 

QUESTION:

 

Which wires need grounding for the Software Bypass?

 

ANSWER:

 

Ground the green parking brake wire.

 

That's the only one? No others?

 

Well obviously you need to ground the ground just to get it to turn on, but to enable video/nav using the software bypass the only wire you need to ground is the green parking brake wire.

 

So is the mute ground only needed if I am doing the hard ware bypass? And so if I I am doing the software bypass, the mute ground does not matter?

Posted Feb 24, 2009 · 20:41 UTC#231

like the directions stated

 

SOFTWARE- ONE WIRE ONLY (parking break LIGHT GREEN) (BUT YOU NEED UPLOAD SOFTWARE TO TRICK THE UNIT)

 

HARDWARE- TWO WIRES TO GROUND (Mute & parking break). AFTER THAT, YOUR DONE. NO SOFTWARE REQUIRED

 

ITS ONE OR THE OTHER, YOU CANNOT DO BOTH. you will brick your unit doing so and risk exploding it. please please please read the directions at the beginning. Do the hardware version, its easier.

Posted Feb 24, 2009 · 20:52 UTC#232

 

So is the mute ground only needed if I am doing the hard ware bypass? And so if I I am doing the software bypass, the mute ground does not matter?

 

SOFTWARE- GROUND PARKING, DONT GROUND MUTE. UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

HARDWARE- GROUND PARKING, GROUND MUTE. DONT UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

 

Both bypasses you need to ground the PARKING no matter what!

 

the trade off is software and the mute wire

Posted Feb 25, 2009 · 03:15 UTC#233

Take the e-brake wire (the green one) and just ground it to the car anywhere, along with the normal ground wire I suggest. Now you have bypassed the e-brake option but the AVIC is just a bit smarter if you have the speed sensor wire hooked up. Most people don't but if you had the unit installed correctly then the speed sensor also detects you driving. i suggest leaving this b/c it helps your GPS but if you are watching a movie then your not using GPS sooooo just run the wire through a switch that you can turn on or off. Turn the switch off when you want to access options or watch video while driving. You can get tons of switches at Radio Shack. The speed sensor is the pink wire.

 

So short and sweet...

Ground the e-brake wire (green wire)

Run the Speed Sensor wire (Pink wire) through a switch for turning it on off.

 

BTW the pink wire isn't required to be hooked up but it is very useful ESPECIALLY if you use GPS in areas that lose GPS satellites often such as tunnels.

 

ALSO! You don't need to ground the MUTE wire like many suggest. What a waste. The mute wire is simply used to MUTE the stereo or however when 3rd party objects are trying to speak IF the 3rd party object has a MUTE other 3rd party objects option and vice versa of whatever. Don't freakin ground that wire.

Posted Feb 25, 2009 · 04:21 UTC#234
Take the e-brake wire (the green one) and just ground it to the car anywhere, along with the normal ground wire I suggest. Now you have bypassed the e-brake option but the AVIC is just a bit smarter if you have the speed sensor wire hooked up. Most people don't but if you had the unit installed correctly then the speed sensor also detects you driving. i suggest leaving this b/c it helps your GPS but if you are watching a movie then your not using GPS sooooo just run the wire through a switch that you can turn on or off. Turn the switch off when you want to access options or watch video while driving. You can get tons of switches at Radio Shack. The speed sensor is the pink wire.

 

So short and sweet...

Ground the e-brake wire (green wire)

Run the Speed Sensor wire (Pink wire) through a switch for turning it on off.

 

BTW the pink wire isn't required to be hooked up but it is very useful ESPECIALLY if you use GPS in areas that lose GPS satellites often such as tunnels.

 

ALSO! You don't need to ground the MUTE wire like many suggest. What a waste. The mute wire is simply used to MUTE the stereo or however when 3rd party objects are trying to speak IF the 3rd party object has a MUTE other 3rd party objects option and vice versa of whatever. Don't freakin ground that wire.

Your information about the speed sensor wire, and the mute wire is incorrect. The hardware bypass requires moving the mute wire to a different pin and grounding it, along with the e-brake wire. Many people including myself don't have the VSS wire hooked up and still don't have full functionality of the unit until either performing the hardware or software bypass.

 

You are correct in what the mute wire was intended to be used for, but since most people don't use that feature we move it to a different pin and ground it to perform the bypass.

Posted Feb 25, 2009 · 05:43 UTC#235

SOFTWARE- GROUND PARKING, DONT GROUND MUTE. UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

HARDWARE- GROUND PARKING, GROUND MUTE. DONT UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

Posted Feb 25, 2009 · 19:37 UTC#236
SOFTWARE- GROUND PARKING, DONT GROUND MUTE. UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

HARDWARE- GROUND PARKING, GROUND MUTE. DONT UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

 

thank you very much, now is absolutely clear.

 

thanks again.

Posted Feb 25, 2009 · 22:44 UTC#237
SOFTWARE- GROUND PARKING, DONT GROUND MUTE. UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

HARDWARE- GROUND PARKING, GROUND MUTE. DONT UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

 

It's not GROUND MUTE. It's GROUND THE BYPASS PIN. This is the pin that you moved what used to be the mute wire to. Clearly referring to it as mute has confused some people.

Posted Feb 26, 2009 · 00:30 UTC#238
SOFTWARE- GROUND PARKING, DONT GROUND MUTE. UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

HARDWARE- GROUND PARKING, GROUND MUTE. DONT UPLOAD SOFTWARE.

 

It's not GROUND MUTE. It's GROUND THE BYPASS PIN. This is the pin that you moved what used to be the mute wire to. Clearly referring to it as mute has confused some people.

 

Yes I know, and your right, i shouldnt assume that people already read the diy. Ground the Parking and Ground the MOVED mute wire for the hardware. for software, only the parking.

 

you know what I meant.

Posted Feb 26, 2009 · 00:57 UTC#239

I am having an issue when I try to go into the Windows CE. It worked perfectly fine when I did it on mine, but when I tried to install it on a friend's receiver, his system will not let me X out of the first screen. I tried everything I could think of to get out of it, but nothing works. Any suggestions?

Posted Feb 26, 2009 · 01:18 UTC#240
I am having an issue when I try to go into the Windows CE. It worked perfectly fine when I did it on mine, but when I tried to install it on a friend's receiver, his system will not let me X out of the first screen. I tried everything I could think of to get out of it, but nothing works. Any suggestions?

Calibrate the screen first.

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 19:28 UTC#241

Ok - I tried it and the unit got stuck in system startup. Being somewhat competent with windoze I realized my data.zip file holding up the get along so - I reinstalled the backed up data.zip file - and the system rebooted fine again proving once again the value of backed up duplicated file.

 

see below - I got it to work. It really is not hard at all.

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 20:44 UTC#242
Does ANYONE have a Data.zip known good file that unlocks the F700BT Nav screens without a hardware short to the parking break wire? If so, could you post it please? If you choose not to post, a link or a pm would do.

 

The OP stated clearly he did not use a hardware work around.

 

There isn't one. Parking brake wire needs to be grounded for any bypass currently known.

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 21:02 UTC#243

[see 2 posts below about working system ] Ok - does anyone have a data.zip that works? I tried changing the file, reconstituting the zip file, and verified it was good archive, but my system locked up on boot.

 

Admittedly I used a mac, opened the zip, amended the 16.0 to 160.0, then re-zipped the file using the zipper that comes with Macs = can't think of the name of it as I sit here. Apparently the file is not zipped in a way that the WinCE likes - and as we know all Windoze products tend to be somewhat 'twitchy'. . .

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 21:28 UTC#244
Ok - does anyone have a data.zip that works? I tried changing the file, reconstituting the zip file, and verified it was good archive, but my system locked up on boot.

 

Admittedly I used a mac, opened the zip, amended the 16.0 to 160.0, then re-zipped the file using the zipper that comes with Macs = can't think of the name of it as I sit here. Apparently the file is not zipped in a way that the WinCE likes - and as we know all Windoze products tend to be somewhat 'twitchy'. . .

 

Looks more like Mac's zipper fails at producing a standard ZIP file, or, more likely, at placing the changed file in correct directory.

 

DATA.ZIPs that work are dime a dozen, but they are too large to attach in the forum or email.

 

Yoг could try using WinRAR's Mac version or Zipeg.

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 21:51 UTC#245

I have working nav system while moving in my F700BT without having to engage the parking brake to change destinations or add destinations.

 

Sorry for the bold and itals but wanted others to see it that there is NO need to short the parking brake green wire actively to get it to work.

 

I booted my Mac to Windoze, loaded Winrar, opened a copy of Data.zip file.

 

I modified the Pioneer.ini file to change 16.0 to 160.0 [ more or less 100mph - if I'mdoing 100mph in an ML350 I"m essentially not playing with the Nav system.] Followed all the other instructions to access WinCE and renamed my original data.zip file. Then I turned off and rebooted.

 

It took about 5 seconds more to boot with the 'System Startup' screen showing for the extra 5 seconds.

 

So - at least on my F700BT the purely software fix works.

 

The following do NOT work with the purely software fix:

 

Address Search

 

The following does work with the purely software fix:

 

Favorites

SD Card

Return Home

History

Delete Route

 

I will spend the time this weekend to ground the parking brake wire to add the address search to the while moving options. If you have most of your destinations in History or Favorites - then you have it ready to go while moving with the purely software fix.

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 21:56 UTC#246

If you cannot play a video while driving, then it did not work. Same with the other options. You need to have the parking brake wired for the full monty.

 

Ceger

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 21:56 UTC#247

Umm, sorry, but didn't you end up with fixing nothing at all? Changing the parking brake speed when the parking brake wire isn't grounded (so it is never engaged, as far as the system is concerned) would have no effect at all...

Posted Feb 27, 2009 · 23:28 UTC#248
Umm, sorry, but didn't you end up with fixing nothing at all? Changing the parking brake speed when the parking brake wire isn't grounded (so it is never engaged, as far as the system is concerned) would have no effect at all...

 

Well, thats not true since I was never able to view the Nav functions while the vehicle was moving. Video works fine off my ipod when moving.

 

So its a half fix. sorry if you don't believe me. As I said I will remove the parking wire from the brake and ground it probably tomorrow.

Posted Feb 28, 2009 · 00:59 UTC#249
Umm, sorry, but didn't you end up with fixing nothing at all? Changing the parking brake speed when the parking brake wire isn't grounded (so it is never engaged, as far as the system is concerned) would have no effect at all...

 

Well, thats not true since I was never able to view the Nav functions while the vehicle was moving. Video works fine off my ipod when moving.

 

So its a half fix. sorry if you don't believe me. As I said I will remove the parking wire from the brake and ground it probably tomorrow.

 

I got some additional functionality as well via software modifications. You can also get to some screens directly that are normally greyed out from access by putting buttons onto the Nav screen to go directly to them, suchas Nav settings. It is just a lot of work.

 

Ceger

Posted Feb 28, 2009 · 01:28 UTC#250

My question is how do i get to they data.zip file? If someone could help me out thank you

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