So I just bought a 90bt and had it installed at a local car toys. When i was there picking it out the sales guy mentioned how it will be grounded to my ebrake and has a movement detection and under his breath said that it can all be bypassed but they cant do any of it. So as soon i got home i started googleing. At first i was totaly lost as what to do to be able to watch movies and use the nav while in motion. but after reading through this forum i slowly figured it all out and was able to alter the data file and find the ground wire and ground it to my truck instead of the ebrake. and now i have a fully functional while in motion 90bt. I just want to say thank you to all who posted helpful posts.
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to ground the green parking break lead, can i just splice it into the harnesses black ground lead?
to ground the green parking break lead, can i just splice it into the harnesses black ground lead?
I originally installed the brake wire to the brake. The trick to the software mod is to lift your brake up one click and you then have full access to any menu or video while in motion. the nice feature is that if you get the urge to stop working the system that way you just drop your ebrake and the system will lock you out(until you lift it again!)
the only issue this would bring up is now you have an e-brake light on! Big whoop, just remove the light or wait for it to burn out!
I originally installed the brake wire to the brake. The trick to the software mod is to lift your brake up one click and you then have full access to any menu or video while in motion. the nice feature is that if you get the urge to stop working the system that way you just drop your ebrake and the system will lock you out(until you lift it again!)
the only issue this would bring up is now you have an e-brake light on! Big whoop, just remove the light or wait for it to burn out!
thanks for the reply. but i don't really want to play with my ebrake that way.
i just want to know the following: to ground the green parking break lead, can i just splice it into the harnesses black ground lead?
Yes.
Why is anyone actually hooking up the handbrake lead to the actual handbrake? Ground that sucker out and do the software mod! 5 minutes, full access to vid and navi while in motion.
I'm about to do this, and i've searched the forum, but I can't find images of what the parking break lead looks like. I can find info on the mute wire, but not what i'm looking for. So basically, if I take the green parking break lead, and unhook it from the parking break (I got install done at Best Buy, so I assume it is hooked up that way), all I need to do is ground it to somewhere on the metal frame, right?
Will I need to pull out the dash to access this? I drive an SUV, so the parking break is under where the other pedals are. I'm hoping I can just find it looking up there...
hey i wanted to know "can you use 1 sd card to backup your system and store the mods??" or should u use two seperate ones??
hey i wanted to know "can you use 1 sd card to backup your system and store the mods??" or should u use two seperate ones??
You could use one card, as long as it has enough storage available. Just make sure you remember what goes where and which folder has the backup...
One thing to keep in mind. The parking break speed in "parking_break_speed=16.0" is in Kilometers per hour. If you set it to 128, the functions that the bypass enables will be blacked out at 80 mph. I changed mine to 256 as while I don't often drive over 80 mph, I want the full functionality if I do. Also, at least on the F500, I thoroughly disagree with those who claim you just need to ground the parking break wire. Unless you change the "parking_break_speed=16.0" speed to a greater value, you might as well not even bother grounding the parking break wire as those functions that the bypass enables won't be available over 10 mph.
Awesome find! Good to know it can be done via software as well. Although I'm sure this one would net even more noobish questions than the hardware bypass already does...
One thing to mention. The parking break speed in "parking_break_speed=16.0" is in Kilometers per hour. If you set it to 128, the functions that the bypass enables will be blacked out at 80 mph. I changed mine to 256 as while I don't often drive over 80 mph, I want the full functionality if I do.
I have confirmed that changing the parking_break_speed value in the DATA.zip file (/project_config/pioneer.ini) does in fact bypass the video/gps restriction without changing any wiring. I set the value to 128.0 (thought it odd that they picked 16, so I assumed they were using the standard 1,2,4,8,16 binary notation so I chose a number that would fit in that series, hence 128).
I know this works because I just installed this unit 2 days ago and did NOT use any bypass. With the change made to the ini file, I can now enjoy video while traveling up to 128 MPH
Sorry, put this in the wrong place above. One thing to mention. The parking break speed in "parking_break_speed=16.0" is in Kilometers per hour. If you set it to 128, the functions that the bypass enables will be blacked out at 80 mph. I changed mine to 256 as while I don't often drive over 80 mph, I want the full functionality if I do.
I would suggest pulling out the unit, yes. Cut the lead with enough left to ground to the vehicle chassis.
I had my system installed for me and I am trying to ground the parking brake wire. I am idiot when it comes to this, but I have a couple quick questions. I have the F90BT, so the parking wire is green correct? Also to get to the parking brake do I have to go behind my system or can I cut the green wire that runs under my steering wheel. The green wire goes from the parking brake under the steering wheel and up towards the system. When I cut the wire and taped the exposed wire to metal, the parking break signal on the car was lit up. The car was not registering that the parking brake was pressed down, so I did something wrong. I attached both sides back together, so it is working properly again, but the parking brake is not grounded for the hack to work.
Thanks for the help
your totally going the wrong way bud. look under Hardware bypass for dummies. you also need to relacate the mute wire from white harness from pin 1 to pin 4 down below because it knows your in motion after you start getting speed. the green wire needs to be grounded. not your actual parking break wire. once you have relocated the mute wire to pin 4 now you need to ground that one also. just look in the forum for Hardware Bypass and not software bypass.
does anyone know how to modify the zipped file on a mac without uncompressing it.
does anyone know how to modify the zipped file on a mac without uncompressing it.
search for it on this thread, a user was able to edit the data.zip using a certain program just for the mac
I did the software bypass myself and have come upon a few conclusions. 1) it is a lot easier to do if you are a 17 year old that don't know anything about cars, but is very well with computers. 2) The 128 that you change in the .ini file is actually kilometers, the tv gives you a warning when you pass 80 mph. 3) It works flawlessly, so if you have already installed your tv, but wanna watch movies or other things while driving just do the software bypass, becuase it is very simple. Albeit so is the hardware bypass, i guess it just depends on if you are tech savvy or hardware savvy. Thanks for pointing out this file as well tacomaboy.
Anyone else have an empty project_config folder? Mine is empty and the pioneer.ini is in the root of data.zip. Tried the value change to 256.0 but didn't work. Just changed the USE_SEPARATED_SAFETY_MODE value as suggested in one of these posts and hopefully it will work this time. The e-brake wire is spliced in to the common ground and works as I get video up to 10mph and comes back on at stop signs, etc. Just wondering why my pioneer.ini file is in a different location...
Thanks, tnm
Anyone else have an empty project_config folder? Mine is empty and the pioneer.ini is in the root of data.zip. Tried the value change to 256.0 but didn't work. Just changed the USE_SEPARATED_SAFETY_MODE value as suggested in one of these posts and hopefully it will work this time. The e-brake wire is spliced in to the common ground and works as I get video up to 10mph and comes back on at stop signs, etc. Just wondering why my pioneer.ini file is in a different location...
Thanks, tnm
Your DATA.ZIP is hosed. Often happens if you use WinZIP or some Mac programs and do not make sure that files are archived with proper folder structure.
Your DATA.ZIP is hosed. Often happens if you use WinZIP or some Mac programs and do not make sure that files are archived with proper folder structure.
If I cannot find the back-up I made, will reinstalling the 2.0 upgrade replace the data.zip file?
Your DATA.ZIP is hosed. Often happens if you use WinZIP or some Mac programs and do not make sure that files are archived with proper folder structure.
If I cannot find the back-up I made, will reinstalling the 2.0 upgrade replace the data.zip file?
Pioneer's update download includes a factory DATA.ZIP. You can also download one of the modded ones from here.
Pioneer's update download includes a factory DATA.ZIP. You can also download one of the modded ones from here.
Thanks Boris, I unhosed my zip file and everything is 5x5.
TnM
Pioneer's update download includes a factory DATA.ZIP. You can also download one of the modded ones from here.
Thanks Boris, I unhosed my zip file and everything is 5x5.
TnM
Great. In the future, if you are using Windows, use WinRAR on 7-ZIP to work with AVIC's compressed files. Those tend to preserve folder structure inside archives much better than WinZIP.
I have confirmed that changing the parking_break_speed value in the DATA.zip file (/project_config/pioneer.ini) does in fact bypass the video/gps restriction without changing any wiring. I set the value to 128.0 (thought it odd that they picked 16, so I assumed they were using the standard 1,2,4,8,16 binary notation so I chose a number that would fit in that series, hence 128).
I know this works because I just installed this unit 2 days ago and did NOT use any bypass. With the change made to the ini file, I can now enjoy video while traveling up to 128 MPH
Does anyone know if this will work in the 90BT unit?