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Australian Map Update (R17 Maps Page 23)

By 34by151 · Mar 29, 2009in Hacks/Mods💬 481 posts👁️ 97,204 views
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Posted Sep 13, 2009 · 10:27 UTC#76
OK. will do a write up and post the flash disk.

 

But first I have another issue, bluetooth stopped working. I will do a fresh install and try to resolve this issue and do a write up on the way.

 

Stay tuned as it may take me a couple of days. I want my bluetooth fixed first.

 

Cheers man...take your time! Hope you get the bluetooth working, thats a big thing for me too....when i installed the US 3.0, the bluetooth software wasnt even installed :?

 

it was really wierd

Posted Sep 14, 2009 · 04:11 UTC#77

Ok. Have figured out Tel.exe crashes if TMC is enabled and scanning at the same time.

 

Can have either Bluetooth or TMC but not both together. Will look into it further later tonight. It will be an issue with the ports that are being used.

 

Does anyone know if bluetooth use different ports between US and EW models?

Posted Sep 14, 2009 · 08:20 UTC#78

I think the problem lies with the hacked ezrider.exe.

 

For now I will use bluetooth with no tcm. I will look further into reversing ezrider.

Posted Sep 14, 2009 · 08:24 UTC#79

Hey Saeb, do you have the original files posted by 34by151 in original post that started this thread? While waiting for 3.0 to come out in Oz(if it ever does), i wanted to see what the modded 2.0 one that he did looks like and works.

 

btw, love how you've got the hacked 3.0 to work so far..those lane pics and 3d building stuff looks good.

Posted Sep 14, 2009 · 09:22 UTC#80
Hey Saeb, do you have the original files posted by 34by151 in original post that started this thread? While waiting for 3.0 to come out in Oz(if it ever does), i wanted to see what the modded 2.0 one that he did looks like and works.

 

btw, love how you've got the hacked 3.0 to work so far..those lane pics and 3d building stuff looks good.

 

 

No, Sorry I don't. I never downloaded it at all.

 

I don't think we will see any version 3 for at least anothr 12 months as V15 maps use ezrider 2. From what I understand Sensis maps do not support Lane pictures.

 

My best option yet is to have everything working except TMC until I can spend some time on ezrider.

Posted Sep 14, 2009 · 22:26 UTC#81
Hey Saeb, do you have the original files posted by 34by151 in original post that started this thread?.

 

I've emailed 34by151 and he's going to fix it up soon when he get's time.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 03:14 UTC#82

can someone please post a link for the hacked ezrider 2007 as I cant seem to extract the one ive downloaded.

Thanks in advance

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 05:12 UTC#83
Hey Saeb, do you have the original files posted by 34by151 in original post that started this thread?.

 

I've emailed 34by151 and he's going to fix it up soon when he get's time.

 

Ah, thanks for that. Will look for that, and also saeb's new 3.0 mods as well. Looking forward to trying all the mods out.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 10:45 UTC#84

Pretty much talking to myself in this thread, but it's good note keeping for myself.

 

Changed TMC to use different com port than 4. Same issue occurs if TMC is enabled tel.exe crashes.

 

I might sit down and disect ezrider 3 and see what happens.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 11:37 UTC#85
Pretty much talking to myself in this thread, but it's good note keeping for myself..

 

No, we are all listening really! :) Have you tried reading though the F900BT service manual. It was downloadable from this site somewhere and might help you find out why TMC is crashing or how the parts interact. Just an idea.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 12:19 UTC#86
Pretty much talking to myself in this thread, but it's good note keeping for myself..

 

No, we are all listening really! :) Have you tried reading though the F900BT service manual. It was downloadable from this site somewhere and might help you find out why TMC is crashing or how the parts interact. Just an idea.

 

I never had this issue with ver 2, but great idea and if someone has the manual I would be willing to look at it.

 

Looking inside ezrider I can see that it wants to or tries to interact with the bluetooth drivers.

 

I can live without TMC but I hate it when something does not work to it's full potential. Anyway I will sleep on it, sometimes a day break can make all the difference.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 12:41 UTC#87

Just changed bluetooth firmware back to original. Nothing resolved.

 

May even condsider put all ver 2 files back on and seeing if ezrider 3 and maps etc works.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 12:45 UTC#88

saeb good on you man honeslty, we are all paying close attention to your work!

 

im just praying you can get this working because i too just feel so left out and at the same time outraged that we paid so much for our Australiain units and we have to go to such lengths as to personally (well in this case you're really putting your skills to work) MAKE V3 work.

 

and i totally agree with you, i hate having things that dont work to their full potential....but just a question, how do you so frequently test to see if these things work or not, and play around with them? do you have an emulator or something on your computer?

 

 

cheers

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 13:16 UTC#89
saeb good on you man honeslty, we are all paying close attention to your work!

 

im just praying you can get this working because i too just feel so left out and at the same time outraged that we paid so much for our Australiain units and we have to go to such lengths as to personally (well in this case you're really putting your skills to work) MAKE V3 work.

 

and i totally agree with you, i hate having things that dont work to their full potential....but just a question, how do you so frequently test to see if these things work or not, and play around with them? do you have an emulator or something on your computer?

 

 

cheers

 

Lots of patience, a very messy windows desktop, a very organised SD card and a lot of walking in and outside the house.

 

I'm really thinking of ripping the unit out and bringing it inside.

 

What I really want is a way too plug an sd card into the 900 and have direct read write access at the same time via USB from the desktop computer. If that makes sense. So a USB to Male SD card?

 

It would make the process so much quicker.

Posted Sep 15, 2009 · 14:00 UTC#90

Well I took a step backwards and installed my old ver 2 files on the flash disk, but installed ezrider ver 3 and maps etc.

 

Maps work fine

TMC works fine

Bluetooth not found but does not crash.

 

From what I can see Tel.exe looks to igo eg. ezrider for the bluetooth connection settings etc.

 

Why is this such a nightmare????

 

Is the hacked ezrider not suitable for our units. Is anyone else having issues with TMC and bluetooth. Who hacked ezrider? Can thy give me some insight?

Posted Sep 16, 2009 · 07:20 UTC#91

Does someone have a european map that supports TMC and a legit license? Least then I can check bluetooth with a legit ezrider and see if I have the same problems, if I do then it's not ez.

 

I do not want all the maps just the smallest possible one that supports TMC.

Posted Sep 23, 2009 · 05:56 UTC#92

If I bought a F700BT or X710BT from the US, can I upload the Australian Map data onto it?

 

Also, can the F700BT be upgraded with the v3 firmware in conjuction with Aussie maps?

Posted Sep 23, 2009 · 07:53 UTC#93
If I bought a F700BT or X710BT from the US, can I upload the Australian Map data onto it? Also, can the F700BT be upgraded with the v3 firmware in conjuction with Aussie maps?

 

Yes you can, but you will have to find igo 8.3 Australian maps which might be hard, you can't use TMC (the American's use MSN and the extra tuner is not installed) and the radio might not receive all stations (the US uses .2 increments for the radio). Good luck mate!

Posted Sep 23, 2009 · 13:04 UTC#94
If I bought a F700BT or X710BT from the US, can I upload the Australian Map data onto it? Also, can the F700BT be upgraded with the v3 firmware in conjuction with Aussie maps?

 

Yes you can, but you will have to find igo 8.3 Australian maps which might be hard, you can't use TMC (the American's use MSN and the extra tuner is not installed) and the radio might not receive all stations (the US uses .2 increments for the radio). Good luck mate!

 

What about if I load the entire contents of my F500BT into the F700BT and then upgrade the firmware to the official 2.09?

 

So basically if I use the American F700BT I lose TMC and possibly a few radio stations? I wonder if the savings are worth it...I mean, the X910BT can be had for ~$1000 AUD including shipping, or the F700BT for ~750 AUD.

 

Or I can just wait till Pioneer releases v3 firmware along with v15 maps :x:|:evil:

Posted Sep 23, 2009 · 23:11 UTC#95
What about if I load the entire contents of my F500BT into the F700BT and then upgrade the firmware to the official 2.09?

I'm not sure if this would work but you could try it. The F700BT isn't sold here so you can't get an Aussie copy of the software. Maybe a EW (european) one might help? There are a number of threads about using US units in europe so I would suggest you read those and then decided if it's worth the hassle. Then pop back here when you have the unit to get help loading maps etc.

 

So basically if I use the American F700BT I lose TMC and possibly a few radio stations? I wonder if the savings are worth it...I mean, the X910BT can be had for ~$1000 AUD including shipping, or the F700BT for ~750 AUD.

Only you can decide. Personally I live near Brisbane and would love TMC but I have to wait for the new maps. At the moment it's only in Sydney, Melboune & Brisbane so if your not travelling near them don't worry about it. I also think Aussie radio stations are usually 97.1 97.3 97.5 etc anyway but does the US unit use 97.0 97.2 97.4? You might just have to ask someone.

 

Or I can just wait till Pioneer releases v3 firmware along with v15 maps :x:|:evil:

*lmao* We will be waiting for V3 for a long time I think. We are always behind in Australia! But in saying that saeb has been loading V3 and 8.3 Navteq maps. The only limit to your project is time!

 

Have fun anyway, and please post back if you buy the unit from America. We would all be interested in the outcome.

Posted Sep 24, 2009 · 00:31 UTC#96

Bloody hell I'm torn up deciding between getting a brand new X910BT from the states or a 2nd hand F900BT here in Aus for around the same price...

 

GRRRH!

Posted Sep 24, 2009 · 05:55 UTC#97

The X910 is better if you own an iphone I think but there really isn't a whole lot of difference. Where is your second hand one coming from? Ask yourself, Why is it second hand!

Posted Oct 10, 2009 · 07:34 UTC#98

I just got my free upgrade in the post this week from Pioneer Australia (when I bought the unit in Jan 09, it came with a coupon for the free map upgrade). It came with 2 SD cards and the upgrade was pretty straight forward except for one minor glitch due to poor documentation from Pioneer, which was a little frustrating...

 

Getting the password...

According to Pioneer's documentation, you get the password to complete the upgrade from http://www.pioneer.com.au, but the problem was, after a whole evening searching, I could not find anything on the Pioneer website(s) anywhere that will give me a password. But thanks to the notes on an earlier post:

 

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=26656

 

I found that the place to get the password was: PioneerNavigationUpdate.com

 

Once you punch in the "media number" (came in the upgrade package) and "device number" (when you plug the 2nd SD card in, it will show it on screen), it returns the password immediately on the website, punch it in on the F 900BT, the upgrade was completed within a few minutes.

 

After the upgrade, the unti seems to work a bit quicker and the interface was definitely improved, a few main things I noted so far:


  • * 2D maps now have North up or Heading up orinetations
    * 3D maps seem to be a bit better graphics
    * Lane information at major intersections - very nice
    * General improvements to basic interface

 

I would love to try out the mods like IDT when I get a chance, if anyone has done such mods on an Australian F900 BT with this latest map/firmware update, please let me know how it went.

Posted Oct 10, 2009 · 08:05 UTC#99

Yep ditto i got my official Aussie update in the mail a few days ago!

 

Everything works so much better, but the ONLY thing i would like to change is to have the same GPS mods that we could have on the V2, such as the "mute guidance" button, and the "delete route" shortcut and things like that.

 

If anyone knows how to do it successfully on the Australian units or has done it with no problems, please post up some info :)

 

Thanks guys

Posted Oct 10, 2009 · 08:47 UTC#100

Guys! I haven't got mine yet you are sooooo lucky. Can you please post the version number for the update and maps please.

 

Also the mute and delete mods are pretty easy I think and well documented (try having a look in GTIMatt's mods). You just have to add a few lines to the data.zip in notepad I think. I will have a go at it if no one else has got there when I get my update. Still waiting impatiently... I want my update NOW Pioneer!!!!!

 

Also can anyone confirm if SUNA now works in Brisbane or Sydney?

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