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Bypass instructions for the Z1

By Jamesdat · Mar 31, 2006in Hacks/Mods💬 427 posts👁️ 155,139 views
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Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 13:16 UTC#126
I have auto lights and I will be using two pac tr7 modules to get around this. At night, if I remote start my car, my lights come on before the ingnition even turns, which would keep the pulse to the HU from happening since it would be seeing a constant. So I will take one TR7 and hook it up to the actual factory dimmer wire and set the TR7 to delayed output. On the output I'll put a diode and then another TR7 on the other side of that diode to pulse.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 13:49 UTC#127
aziator said:
My timing must suck, I still cant get it to work...



when you start the car the lights illuminate on the z1....do nothing.
when the z1 sarts its boot sequence it will look something like this


21314efdsfe35453
1321453254554435
134343525545345

thats when you turn on and off the headlights.....

next it will display the pioneer logo.... you can still turn on and off your lights during this time.


i usualy get 1 on and off during the boot sequence and 2 durning the pioneer logo and i do all my flashes within about 2 seconds total, so far its worked evey time....... in other words turn on and off your headlights as fast as you can and it will work..
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 14:12 UTC#128
I am returning my Z1 tomorrow. You guys can spend the rest of your lives flashing headlights if you want to.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 14:32 UTC#129
edrock200 said:
I have auto lights and I will be using two pac tr7 modules to get around this. At night, if I remote start my car, my lights come on before the ingnition even turns, which would keep the pulse to the HU from happening since it would be seeing a constant. So I will take one TR7 and hook it up to the actual factory dimmer wire and set the TR7 to delayed output. On the output I'll put a diode and then another TR7 on the other side of that diode to pulse.


That still won't solve your problem. All that will do is keep the TR-7 from flashing your lights during the day.
You need to put a relay on the remote start so that it "breaks" the dimmer wire while the car is remote started. Putting the TR-7 on the radio side of this break would solve that problem.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 15:58 UTC#130
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: Uninstall

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I am returning my Z1 tomorrow. You guys can spend the rest of your lives flashing headlights if you want to.


No need for that! Use that tr-7 to do it.. it works well and reliably, as for the trigger, I would use the remote wire to trigger it so it will do the sequence when you turn the radio on. Also, hook up the output of the tr7 to the illumination wire behind the radio, not the parking light wire. That way it should only flash the lights on the dash, not the outside lights.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 17:46 UTC#131
MChance000 said:
I am returning my Z1 tomorrow. You guys can spend the rest of your lives flashing headlights if you want to.


Hey chance did you call tech support? I spoke with others who said they're pioneer system was reliable, has to be your setup, the way the antenna is mounted or the car. God Bless
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 17:53 UTC#132
jack said:
aziator said:
My timing must suck, I still cant get it to work...



when you start the car the lights illuminate on the z1....do nothing.
when the z1 sarts its boot sequence it will look something like this


21314efdsfe35453
1321453254554435
134343525545345

thats when you turn on and off the headlights.....

next it will display the pioneer logo.... you can still turn on and off your lights during this time.


i usualy get 1 on and off during the boot sequence and 2 durning the pioneer logo and i do all my flashes within about 2 seconds total, so far its worked evey time....... in other words turn on and off your headlights as fast as you can and it will work..



You guys get a bunch of number on boot-up? I don't, mine just said "Starting up...."
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 18:50 UTC#133
I have noticed that when you use the light trick and drive with your headlights on after about 15 min. the bypass fails. Has anyone experienced this. I guess we are gonna have to disconnect the ill wire from the car harness
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 19:57 UTC#134
Actually, when I just sit and watch the menu buttons they seem to periodically enable and disable by themselves, almost as if you were putting on and off the parking break. I think this is why a lot of people on here think the light switch trick is working.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 20:03 UTC#135
Yes, here was the response:

Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.
I am sorry to hear the problems you have experienced with the AVIC-Z1.
I will forward your comments to the product planning division. I am sure your comments will be looked at closely and considered for future product changes.


Thank You,

Rocky
Customer Service Representative

Which is why I finally decided to take the unit back.


HeavenSoldier said:
MChance000 said:
I am returning my Z1 tomorrow. You guys can spend the rest of your lives flashing headlights if you want to.


Hey chance did you call tech support? I spoke with others who said they're pioneer system was reliable, has to be your setup, the way the antenna is mounted or the car. God Bless
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 20:11 UTC#136
Has anyone heard of a switch on the z1 used to bypass for the video and nav. I was reading on another site and they were talking about removing a sticker and under it there is a switch. How true is this info.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 20:50 UTC#137
MChance000 said:
Yes, here was the response:

Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.
I am sorry to hear the problems you have experienced with the AVIC-Z1.
I will forward your comments to the product planning division. I am sure your comments will be looked at closely and considered for future product changes.


Thank You,

Rocky
Customer Service Representative

Which is why I finally decided to take the unit back.


HeavenSoldier said:
MChance000 said:
I am returning my Z1 tomorrow. You guys can spend the rest of your lives flashing headlights if you want to.


Hey chance did you call tech support? I spoke with others who said they're pioneer system was reliable, has to be your setup, the way the antenna is mounted or the car. God Bless


Hmmm, where here is the contact information, which you probaly already have
PIONEER ELECTRONICS (USA) INC.
P.O. Box 1540, Long Beach, California 90801-1540, U.S.A.
TEL: (800) 421-1404

They usually put me through answer machines. God Bless.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 20:57 UTC#138
Did anybody ever verify and or get a copy of this file???

Jamesdat said:
in order to bypass the video while driving function for the Z1 you have to load a special file onto the Hard drive, i got the file from a tech at pioneer, Bpz1s.kwi you simply load it into the drive and click ok for the prompt to install, i have no clue how to take it out but it works great
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 21:01 UTC#139
I saw another rumor that someone had removed a label and discovered a switch to remove the interlocks everyone has been discussing. Sounds a little hard to believe. Plus we would all miss flicking our headlights and being lost.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 21:34 UTC#140
The light flip trick works great. I have my Z1 completely installed per manual with the brake lead connected. I rarely need to access menus that are locked while i'm driving but if i want to i can just flip my light once at boot up and its unlocked. So easy. Now i can spot who else has a z1 in the parking lot!
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 21:35 UTC#141
mchance000, since you are taking your unit back, open that hardrive door and take a picture of that drive, we are all curious here.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 21:37 UTC#142
Some guy on Toyota forum already did that...he took the HDD out, it's just the stardard 30GB notebook HD (Toshiba, I think).

He tried to back up the data, buy none of his software would recognized the HDD.
Posted Apr 27, 2006 · 22:40 UTC#143
I don't think I explained my scenario very well. It will be wired like this:

Dimmer wire --> TR7 on 5 second delay for constant out on dimmer constant --> diode --> TR7 pulse trigger --> AVIC-Z1

htrdlnc said:
edrock200 said:
I have auto lights and I will be using two pac tr7 modules to get around this. At night, if I remote start my car, my lights come on before the ingnition even turns, which would keep the pulse to the HU from happening since it would be seeing a constant. So I will take one TR7 and hook it up to the actual factory dimmer wire and set the TR7 to delayed output. On the output I'll put a diode and then another TR7 on the other side of that diode to pulse.


That still won't solve your problem. All that will do is keep the TR-7 from flashing your lights during the day.
You need to put a relay on the remote start so that it "breaks" the dimmer wire while the car is remote started. Putting the TR-7 on the radio side of this break would solve that problem.
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 04:46 UTC#144
I just found out my Bluetooth Unit ND-BT1 shipped today. Should have it Wednesday. I'll let you know how that works once I get it installed.

Kevin



Kevin,

Can you tell me where you ordered this from? I can only find pre-order sites.

Thanks.

Rob
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 06:49 UTC#145
I actually saw one in a store here in northern CA on Tuesday so the first batch has definitely hit the market

tridentnyc said:
I just found out my Bluetooth Unit ND-BT1 shipped today. Should have it Wednesday. I'll let you know how that works once I get it installed.

Kevin



Kevin,

Can you tell me where you ordered this from? I can only find pre-order sites.

Thanks.

Rob
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 14:17 UTC#146
My wife took my Porsche in today to the the Z1 uninstalled....thank goodness!! Never be a first adopter. Especially with gadgets!
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 14:39 UTC#147
MChance000 said:
My wife took my Porsche in today to the the Z1 uninstalled....thank goodness!! Never be a first adopter. Especially with gadgets!


Good for you, one less thing to complain about.
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 14:43 UTC#148
I heard if there was a switch behind the label, it would void warranty if you damage the sticker at all. Thats what the pioneer distributors are telling me. I think the light flicking is much better than voiding warranty!
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 14:57 UTC#149
MChance000 said:
My wife took my Porsche in today to the the Z1 uninstalled....thank goodness!! Never be a first adopter. Especially with gadgets!


It has to be your install, like I said I don't know to many bad reviews on the z1. Look at this review here http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread ... light=avic

He said he z1 is extremely reliable. The best nav he has ever owned. God Bless bye.
Posted Apr 28, 2006 · 15:40 UTC#150
HeavenSoldier said:
MChance000 said:
My wife took my Porsche in today to the the Z1 uninstalled....thank goodness!! Never be a first adopter. Especially with gadgets!


It has to be your install, like I said I don't know to many bad reviews on the z1. Look at this review here http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread ... light=avic

He said he z1 is extremely reliable. The best nav he has ever owned. God Bless bye.



Dude let it be...the guy was a complainer, did not contribute anything useful anyways. Good riddance!
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