CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 2008 Hyundai Tiburon. Odd, specs aren't showing an Accessory 2: Battery RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Ignition 1 RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Ignition 2 PINK (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Accessory 1 ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Starter 1 WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Anti-Theft Type UNIVERSAL IMMOBILIZER Anti-Theft Descript THE KEY SENDS AN RF SIGNAL TO THE ECM MODULE THROUGH AN ANTENNA LOCATED AROUND THE IGNITION CYLINDER Key Sense BLUE/ORANGE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Tachometer WHITE/BLACK (AC) ECM MODULE IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL PIN #75 Crankshaft Sensor ORANGE (-) AT ECM MODULE IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL PIN #29 Camshaft Sensor BROWN (-) AT ECM MODULE IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL PIN #72 Speed Sense BROWN (AC) ECM MODULE IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL ALSO AT DIAGNOSTIC CONNECTOR UNDER DRIVER SIDE DASH PIN #6 Parking Lights BLUE/ORANGE (-) IN HARNESS AT VEHICLE PARKING LIGHT SWITCH Brake Lights WHITE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL Reverse Lights GRAY (+) AT BCM MODULE BEHIND FUSE PANEL BEHIND DRIVERS SIDE DASH Horn GREEN/BLACK (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Anti Theft RX BLACK/ORANGE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Anti Theft TX YELLOW/ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Rear Defrost BLUE/BLACK MAY ALSO BE BLUE ON MODELS WITH AUTO A/C Here's what I would do. Get a test light, and find the ignition harness. It will be the one with all the wires tapped into it behind the shield or clamshell. Find a wire in that harness that hasn't been touched. When you probe it, it will turn on, cut power when when you crank, will turn back on after the car is started. If you find a wire that does that, and it hasn't been tapped into, chances are that's your accessory 2 if you have one. Take the wire off the pink wire (ignition 2) and tap it into that acc 2 wire with it and see how the unit reacts. If it doesn't change anything, just undo any changes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrdiesel Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Careful disconnecting that wire, in some cases one ignition wire runs the fuel pump and the other energizes the coils, and one of them may also be required to operate the fan. Both ignitions may be required still. My program doesn't have a 2008 Tiburon listed, but for 2007 it doesn't show a 2nd Ignition either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeApOn Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Very much appreciate the information. However, that all sounds a bit scary to me. I had someone else do the work for me to put this remote starter in. However, they might actually have to do some additional work with it in the future, so if there is something specific I need to have them change, let me know. What exactly do you think is happening? Is it that the Navi is wired into the brake somehow, instead of being used on a separate wire? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 No, the unit is wired fine. That's not a question at all. The possibility I brought up and asked Diesel, is whether the power wires for the remote start were properly wired. What he was saying about the brake is every remote start has an anti-theft feature that gets wired to the brake switch, that way if you start your car, nobody can just hop in while it's running and take off. When you remote start the car, turn the key and press on the brake pedal, you are disengaging the remote start and the car is now running on its own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeApOn Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ah yes. I do know about that-- the guy who installed my remote starter went over that with me, and I tested it out. My car shut off when I pressed the brake before putting my key in the ignition. I also see the parking lights go off when I press the brake after properly inserting my key into the ignition-- showing that the car has switched over to running off the key. According to blackh, the touchscreen was unresponsive to him before he pressed the brake, but it worked afterwards. When I have noticed the screen not responding, it is after I am already driving(though I didn't attempt to touch it until I was already driving). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 See that's what makes this problem so complicated. You, Blackh, and Bitman have reported this problem as far as I know. BlackH gets control after pressing the break, Bitman gets control 6 out of 10 times, and you never do. It's so inconsistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bitman Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 OK. Weapon, and Bitman, what year make and model is your car? toyota rav4 5drs 2001 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeApOn Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 See that's what makes this problem so complicated. You, Blackh, and Bitman have reported this problem as far as I know. BlackH gets control after pressing the break, Bitman gets control 6 out of 10 times, and you never do. It's so inconsistent. No, sorry if I misled you. It's only happened to me a few times-- not always. I would agree with the 6 out of 10 times. It hasn't happened to me in a few days as of this moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 toyota rav4 5drs 2001 WIRE COLOR POLARITY LOCATION Battery WHITE (+) IGNITION HARNESS Ignition 1 BLACK/YELLOW (+) IGNITION HARNESS Ignition 2 BLACK (+) IGNITION HARNESS Accessory 1 BLUE/RED (+) IGNITION HARNESS Starter 1 RED (+) IGNITION HARNESS Anti-Theft Type RF ACTIVATED SYS. Anti-Theft Descript TRANSPONDER Tachometer RED (AC) AT COIL Speed Sense VIOLET/WHITE (AC) FRONT OF CENTER CONSOLE Parking Lights GREEN (+) AT FUSEBOX Brake Lights GREEN/WHITE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL Reverse Lights RED/BLACK (+) DRIVERS KICK PANEL Horn GREEN/RED (-) IGNITION HARNESS Hmm, you don't have an accessory 2 either. Howbout this. Try not using the remote start for a few days, see how the unit works. If it works perfectly, I'm completely 100% stumped. The autostart, may somehow be interfering with the systems performance, but I honestly cannot see how. If it still performs the same, I'd have to say it's a defective unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeApOn Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Prior to installing my autostart, I only saw this problem happen once, but it stopped responding after I had been driving for awhile. Since installing the starter, I've seen it happen when I first start driving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sy628109 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I do not have a remote starter, but I am having the same kind of touchscreen problems. I have narrowed the cause down to the volume control on my unit. Every time I move the volume up/down doesnt matter, I lose control of the touchscreen. The only way to get it back is to press the map or menu key then it works again, until I move the volume of course. Does this sound similar to your problems? I never had the problem before doing some mods (probably a coincidence) but I have a PAC audio module connected and my last test is to disconnect it; I have been working with Pioneer and if that doesnt work they will deem it defective and have told me to send it in. You may want to call them and start a case to document everything you are doing to solve it. I have heard some horror stories about Pioneer not accepting some units. I havent gotten around to disconnecting the PAC because at the moment I am sick of taking my dash apart for this thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WeApOn Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Happened to me for the first time in awhile today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
premier3004 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 you whats crazy i have the f700bt. when he was installing my viper 5900 alarm all of a sudden the touch screen was becoming unresponsive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smoothavic Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Same issue here with a toyota tundra. Using the remote start most of the time the radio comes up with an unresponsive touch screen. Anyone ever find a fix? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffs64 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 To WeApOn I have a remote start and F90BT with hard wire bypass. Everything works just fine. Try this turn key on to start but do not start your car and see if it boots up properly. Now you will see if your problem is a loss of power while your systems boots up. If your problem is still there,then It's not the the remote start. You may need to try this a few times to see if the touch screen freezes. Some starter systems will take all the power from the battery to start your car and when you let the key go back to on or run it sends power back to the Avic. It's like turning on your headlights and then start your car the headlights dim or turn off when the starter is working. P.S it takes 45-90 seconds for full boot up so wait before you start pushing the screen. It's Win CE it's slow. The 3.0 firmware is faster and has a better touch responce. Is your system bypassed ? Take care Jeff R Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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