jkaruzas99 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I installed the 8000 a little over a month ago and am enjoying the unit very much. It has its pros and cons like everything, but all-in-all I'm very pleased. I am disappointed that using CarPlay and AppRadio modes are not seamless at all, and are to a point mutually exclusive (since you have to alter settings and change cables in order to switch between the two). My question is this: what do you folks mostly use, and why? I find myself using CarPlay most often - are there any compelling arguments against that? Due to the difficulty in switching back and forth, i kind of feel like you have to pick one and go with it - do you guys feel that way as well? I'm excited to see how the two are refined with future firmware and software updates - i'm also interested to see if Pioneer starts to move away from AppRadio altogether and focus primarily on the integration of CarPlay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pjrm68 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I use CarPlay, without a doubt. Appradio mode is so buggy and unreliable that when I got my new 4000NEX, I didn't even buy the cables to hook up Appradio. Just wasn't worth the hassle for something that didn't work half the time I tried to use it So far, I'm loving CarPlay. If they'd just add Waze, I'd be thrilled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheEdge Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I use CarPlay all the time now. It works well with the stock radio and my Sirus ,so moving back and forth is smooth. I use the CarPlay side for: Maps. Apple maps works great for me in my location. It's more up to date than the built in navigation on my 8000NEX, updates are free and I can ask for directions through voice commands. I can set my destination at the office on my iPhone, and CarPlay picks it up when I get into the car. All of my favorite destination are available without having to re-enter them into the NEX navigation. Music. All of my music is either on my phone through iTunes, or through Beats and Spotify. All work well with CarPlay Mail and Messages. I use these all of the time with Siri hands free and CarPlay Reminders. I can set my reminders through a voice command while driving I use the default 8000NEX for my HD Radio, Sirius Radio, backup camera, SD card music and movies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pjrm68 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 One thing I'd love to see is for CarPlay to be able to access the SD card for music and show song info in the Now Playing app. I use the SD slot for all my lossless files and I wish I could control them through the CarPlay interface (as opposed to the ugly Pioneer one that looks like it's from 2003). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 One thing I'd love to see is for CarPlay to be able to access the SD card for music and show song info in the Now Playing app. I use the SD slot for all my lossless files and I wish I could control them through the CarPlay interface (as opposed to the ugly Pioneer one that looks like it's from 2003). While that would be nice, I think the main prerequisite for CarPlay compatibility is that the iPhone must be the source. Anything outside of the phone (like an SD card) is off limits to CarPlay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pjrm68 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 While that would be nice, I think the main prerequisite for CarPlay compatibility is that the iPhone must be the source. Anything outside of the phone (like an SD card) is off limits to CarPlay. Yeah, I realize that it'll probably never happen, but to me, it's the one thing that would make the CarPlay experience close to perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikemaan Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Great topic! I use Car Play mainly. However, I miss my Waze. Waze is critical to life in Los Angeles. I also like to put football on the HDMI when I'm stuck in traffic. I really hate what a pain it is to switch back an forth, but when I do I tend to stay in that mode until I'm forced to switch. One thing I learned is that when you are in App Radio Mode phone calls are handled by unreliable bluetooth. Whereas CarPlay uses the mic directly and the people on the other end of the line can hear me much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joemamma1954 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I do not use carplay at all, For me, carplay offers music and phone, I have lived in Austin for 60 years and if there is a remote chance that i need direction, i have my nav add-on, or if i am in app radio mode i have waze among several other programs. I use dash command sometime in app radio mode, but for the most part, i have all my lossless on sdcard(64gb) and all mp3s on solid state drive (usb1) and all my movies on solid state drive (usb2). If i want youtube or netflix, i just hit hdmi and turn my iphone6 to horizontal in its holder. So bluetooth is dedicated to phone calls, and i have access to all my media without having to change any wires or settings, just change input, and start iPhone app if using hdmi as input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkaruzas99 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Joe, it sounds like you have a good setup. what is "scared (64GB)", and why and why split up lossless and lossy files? Also, what plug(s) do you use for your phone? is it the lightnight to HDMI adapter thing? I am more like the others, though. I have defaulted to CarPlay and it's just a matter of time before i pull the unit out and use USB 2 for a mass storage of some sort. I don't mind switching back and forth between CarPlay and the basic radio interface, since it's only a touch of a button. I do find myself using the Pioneer's navigation more than the Apple one though. i think it just looks better and is a little more robust. I understand Apple's intent of minimizing driver distraction, but some of the things they disable really take away from the user's experience. EDIT - Just realized for "scared" you probably meant SD card. that makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joemamma1954 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 scared was autocorrected from sdcard on this macbook and did not catch that one. I really did not split up the lossless and lossy, I already had lossy on solid state drive, and audiophiles on this forum, got me to thinking i was missing out on the quality of music, so i ripped about 60+ gb of FLAC music from some of my collection to see if i could tell the difference. Instead of pulling out solid state drive and putting it on there, i formatted a 64 gb sdcard to fat32 from exfat and put it on there. Normally i have iPhone 6 connected to apple digital adapter(hdmi)(mounted in glove compartment) via lightning extension. I have car charger mounted in glove compartment connected to digital adapter so all is hidden, and only 1 cable comes out of glove compartment to iPhone holder mounted on dash beside my nex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beedow Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 scared was autocorrected from sdcard on this macbook and did not catch that one. I really did not split up the lossless and lossy, I already had lossy on solid state drive, and audiophiles on this forum, got me to thinking i was missing out on the quality of music, so i ripped about 60+ gb of FLAC music from some of my collection to see if i could tell the difference. Instead of pulling out solid state drive and putting it on there, i formatted a 64 gb sdcard to fat32 from exfat and put it on there. Normally i have iPhone 6 connected to apple digital adapter(hdmi)(mounted in glove compartment) via lightning extension. I have car charger mounted in glove compartment connected to digital adapter so all is hidden, and only 1 cable comes out of glove compartment to iPhone holder mounted on dash beside my nex. This sounds like good news! I thought that 32gb SDHC was the highest capacity that could be used in the headunit, and from your post it sounds like all I'd need to do is reformat to fat32. Is there a specific 64gb SDXC card that this works with, or can I just get any one? And you are able to use all 64GB, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joemamma1954 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 there are people that have formatted up to 256 gb sd card, and used them on the nex. SDHC max capacity is 32 gb, and in order to use larger sdcard, you must format to fat32. It is best, if you are going to use SDXC formatted to fat32, put all the media you want on it and leave it. You have a good chance of losing data if you are constantly writing and changing the contents. There are people that have lost data by constantly rewriting data on these reformatted cards. Just beware, and search on the web about reformatting the SDXC cards. I happen to use a little more expensive samsung SDCARD that has a fast read speed. I have used the SDXC card for a couple of months and have had no issues. I have around 62gb on the card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 I love carplay. I don't touch appradio mode. I do use HDMI sometimes to play movies for people in the car (seriously, a movie can play on the radio and I can drive. It's called looking at the road, not the screen.) but I never touch appradio mode anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 One thing I'd love to see is for CarPlay to be able to access the SD card for music and show song info in the Now Playing app. I use the SD slot for all my lossless files and I wish I could control them through the CarPlay interface (as opposed to the ugly Pioneer one that looks like it's from 2003). Just press the mode button to get to the pioneer music controls. Use that to control the SD card, and carplay navigation will still play through the speakers thanks to Pioneer's audio mix feature. This also is the case if for some reason you are using the Pioneer nav and carplay at the same time for music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pjrm68 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Just press the mode button to get to the pioneer music controls. Use that to control the SD card, and carplay navigation will still play through the speakers thanks to Pioneer's audio mix feature. This also is the case if for some reason you are using the Pioneer nav and carplay at the same time for music. No, I know how to do all that, it's just that I don't want to use the Pioneer controls. I find the interface to be very ugly and unappealing. What I want is to be able to use the CarPlay Music app to access the lossless files on my SD card so that when they play, I'll see the song title and artist info and album art in the CarPlay style. I also realize that this will most likely never happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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