Raiden Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I mean, it's pretty easy to bypass, 2 cables to change. They could have make this alot tougher: There is a integrated GPS so they know the vehicule is moving. But they don't use this info. There is also a cable that goes to the VSS so they know again the vehicule is moving. But again, they don't use this info. So what I am wondering... Do you think Pionner made their unit easy to bypass just so everyone can be happy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Most likely. The only reason they've set it up not to work when the car is moving in the first place is BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. If they had a choice who they would want to satisfy more, the government or the customers, they would always side with the customers. Because that's who pays their bills. But in this matter they can't because of the law. So I they make it as easy as possible for their customers to deal with while still complying with the law. Or it could just be a huge coincidence that you're reading way to far into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
misiek Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 i think they made it easy because if they didnt then the next guy will and its all about the money.... beside i doubt that pioneer cares how easy it was as long as it looks good on paper for the government Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 I think they do it to keep the lawyers happy, and it also makes it easier to use the same/similar hardware in models that are sold in other countries that do not have these laws Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwq Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I mean, it's pretty easy to bypass, 2 cables to change. They could have make this alot tougher: Actually, they did. Before the software update on the Z2, nobody came up with a usable bypass.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsf3g Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 The only thing that's illegal is video. The GPS in my Mitsubishi Lancer does everything except video when the car is in motion. In fact, I would never have done the bypass if everything but the video were normally unlocked... even if it is nice to be able to let my daughter watch her Disney videos when she's in the car with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wpageabc Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Yes thats what they wanted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xsdbs Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 yes thats what they wanted to make us happy and to keep some engineer from profiting off them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yettavr6 Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 I just installed a D3 and mine does use the VSS to disable certain things while in motion. If i go into the NAVI menu there will be a bunch of things greyed out, and as soon as i stop they come back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 I just installed a D3 and mine does use the VSS to disable certain things while in motion. If i go into the NAVI menu there will be a bunch of things greyed out, and as soon as i stop they come back. You must have gotten one of those special D3's that's different from every single other one Pioneer made. If you do the bypass (which leaves the VSS wire in use, by the way) correctly, all functions that are usable in any given scenario while parked are available in the same scenario while in motion. Period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yettavr6 Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Oh, i didnt bypass mine. I thought the OP was saying that they didnt use the VSS/GPS for that at all....not only when its bypassed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 The point he (and I) was making was that as far as restricting access to functions goes, the unit doesn't care what the VSS wire is saying as long as it thinks the parking brake is on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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