bhstennis04 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hey everyone, I just got an avic-d3 custom installed into my 02 Grand Cherokee. It comes stock with a 1.5DIN, so there was a bit of surgery done...anyway, looks clean, great unit. The only problem I am having is with the ipod video function. I set the settings on the video to "video output"(which is a brand new 80gb classic), the avic's screen will go dark and text will read at the top *ipod* Use ipod for video function! It's bizarre. I don't know what to do. I have the correct Pioneer cable and everything, installed correctly. It has to be a setting with the ipod or avic, does anyone know? Thanks, Mike! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 To make a long story short, Apple F@#*ed you and many others. You can return your ipod for a 5.5 gen, or you can go through a long, complicated process to revert your ipod to firmware version 1.0.2 and then never update past it again. Long version here: http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crxxfactor Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 they make a power adater for about 30 dallors and u will need the 50 dallor rca to i pod jack.you will not be able to use controlls on head unit though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaedee Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I would follow the instructions the screen is giving you. Grab your ipod and play the video, it wil play on your D3. You just have to manually start the movie. Once it's going you can pause/start the movie from the D3. I have a Gen 5 80gb video and it works exactly like that. Sure it sucks to have to touch the ipod to start the movie, but once it's on, ou don't touch it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmhines Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 GEN 6 (iPod classic) doesn't work with AVIC-D3 ... you need a GEN 5 or GEN 5.5. I bought an 80GB 5.5 Refurb from Apple.com for $189 ... works great ... both Audio and Video on the D3 ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhstennis04 Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 thx everyone...ended up getting an older 30gb ipod video...it works great now. Still like the avic, that was just uncalled for by apple! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmhines Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Why does everyone blame Apple? Their new iPod technology is not compatible with Pioneer's older HU technology. I'm sure new HU's will support the new iPod's ... Car Integration has made big money for Apple since everyone want's and iPod for their vehicles ... Apple wouldn't intentionally screw this up .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Why does everyone blame Apple? Their new iPod technology is not compatible with Pioneer's older HU technology. I'm sure new HU's will support the new iPod's ... Car Integration has made big money for Apple since everyone want's and iPod for their vehicles ... Apple wouldn't intentionally screw this up .. But it IS Apple's fault. Other than the verification chip they put in there that requires it to be hooked to Apple licensed products ONLY, it's the exact same interface as the older gen. They put that in there for the sole reason of squeezing more money out of it's customers. If that feature wasn't added to the new ipods, they would work with the D3 just the same as the older models do. And yeah, the next gen of AVIC unit's ipod cables might make the new ipods work, but that would only be by going through a licensing agreement with Apple to include the chip/verification thing in the ipod cables, which will end up raising the price of the ipod cable because I'm fairly sure Apple wouldn't let Pioneer use it in their cables for free... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
revo1059 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 OK, I have an older IPod (30GB) and video is not working for me. All other aspects work fine. I DID update my unit (before I got the Pioneer system). I get the Use IPod for full functionality message as well when I switch to video (the sound does come through). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ldkud50 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Ipod Classic works perfectly find if you have 1.02 firmware any other firmware you are screwed. Now the classic is shipping with 1.1.1 and I am having a heck of a time downgrading for a friend of mine have had no luck at all. tried different versions of itunes tried the hold the shift key nothing works. Might need to try it with Win Xp vs Vista Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Did you turn the tv out to "ON" on your ipod? OK, I have an older IPod (30GB) and video is not working for me. All other aspects work fine. I DID update my unit (before I got the Pioneer system). I get the Use IPod for full functionality message as well when I switch to video (the sound does come through). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmhines Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 So Pioneer does not have a license with Apple for iPod support? I highly doubt that since they have one of the best interfaces currently on the market with the D3 ... What makes you think that a D3 firmware update wouldn't be able to fix the Classic compatibility? Why does everyone blame Apple? Their new iPod technology is not compatible with Pioneer's older HU technology. I'm sure new HU's will support the new iPod's ... Car Integration has made big money for Apple since everyone want's and iPod for their vehicles ... Apple wouldn't intentionally screw this up .. But it IS Apple's fault. Other than the verification chip they put in there that requires it to be hooked to Apple licensed products ONLY, it's the exact same interface as the older gen. They put that in there for the sole reason of squeezing more money out of it's customers. If that feature wasn't added to the new ipods, they would work with the D3 just the same as the older models do. And yeah, the next gen of AVIC unit's ipod cables might make the new ipods work, but that would only be by going through a licensing agreement with Apple to include the chip/verification thing in the ipod cables, which will end up raising the price of the ipod cable because I'm fairly sure Apple wouldn't let Pioneer use it in their cables for free... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HiFiSi Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 So Pioneer does not have a license with Apple for iPod support? I highly doubt that since they have one of the best interfaces currently on the market with the D3 ... What makes you think that a D3 firmware update wouldn't be able to fix the Classic compatibility? Why does everyone blame Apple? Their new iPod technology is not compatible with Pioneer's older HU technology. I'm sure new HU's will support the new iPod's ... Car Integration has made big money for Apple since everyone want's and iPod for their vehicles ... Apple wouldn't intentionally screw this up .. But it IS Apple's fault. Other than the verification chip they put in there that requires it to be hooked to Apple licensed products ONLY, it's the exact same interface as the older gen. They put that in there for the sole reason of squeezing more money out of it's customers. If that feature wasn't added to the new ipods, they would work with the D3 just the same as the older models do. And yeah, the next gen of AVIC unit's ipod cables might make the new ipods work, but that would only be by going through a licensing agreement with Apple to include the chip/verification thing in the ipod cables, which will end up raising the price of the ipod cable because I'm fairly sure Apple wouldn't let Pioneer use it in their cables for free... Because it's not an issue of what firmware the D3 has or not. There is an encryption that apple installed in all it's new ipods that requires a certain chip to physically be present in the cable that is plugged into the ipod for the video out to work properly (there was a certain ipod firmware that in a way did away with this feature, but has since been updated to no longer bypass it). And the D3 as well as the D3's ipod cable were both out before the newest ipods that include this feature were even made. So the only way around the problem would be either for apple to remove this feature (which is very unlikely to happen, because it means less money for them) or for Pioneer to get together with apple to license/develop a cable that lets the ipod send video to the D3. Which basicallt means more money from the consumer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmhines Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 OK ... did a little search and found what you are talking about ... http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/c ... o-add-ons/ I'm sure Pioneer could license the chip and build a cable that would cost $40 instead of $20 ... I guess this was Apple's way of busting companies that were advertising iPod connectivity and compatibility but not give royalties to Apple .... I'm perfectly happy with my 5.5 ... and there are plenty pre-Classic iPods available for folks that need compatibility .. Although the classic does have a sleeker interface. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
revo1059 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Did you turn the tv out to "ON" on your ipod? Yep. Doesn't work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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